Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:04 am
Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:07 am
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:48 am
Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:06 pm
Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:21 pm
wez1927 wrote:Has to go to this , if we are ruled against then its final and should be partly insuranced also will be able to go after the planes insurance too
Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:56 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:wez1927 wrote:Has to go to this , if we are ruled against then its final and should be partly insuranced also will be able to go after the planes insurance too
Whatever the outcome it will not be the end of it. The losing party will look at recovering their loses via other means such as "Plane Insurance" or whatever other public liability insurance is about. Further investigations are expected but it will all be under the radar instead of public view.
Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:37 pm
Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:07 pm
Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:51 pm
thomasblue wrote:I think this will rumble on for a few years yet regardless of the outcome of the CAS.
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:07 pm
dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:I think this will rumble on for a few years yet regardless of the outcome of the CAS.
I really hope not..
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:59 pm
thomasblue wrote:dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:I think this will rumble on for a few years yet regardless of the outcome of the CAS.
I really hope not..
I just dont see how it wont.
If we win or lose There will be court cases to come against the owners of the plane, agents involved in the transfer and anyone else deemed to have acted wrongly over this probably by both us and Nantes.
Possible transfer bans and objections to transfer bans which we will dispute so will mean more hearings with the EFL and possibly CAS again
Emilianos family will still want closure and answers to who was responsible which could end up in even more court hearings.
Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:12 pm
dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:I think this will rumble on for a few years yet regardless of the outcome of the CAS.
I really hope not..
I just dont see how it wont.
If we win or lose There will be court cases to come against the owners of the plane, agents involved in the transfer and anyone else deemed to have acted wrongly over this probably by both us and Nantes.
Possible transfer bans and objections to transfer bans which we will dispute so will mean more hearings with the EFL and possibly CAS again
Emilianos family will still want closure and answers to who was responsible which could end up in even more court hearings.
I thought the CAS decision was final regarding the transfer..i assumed all parties would have agreed to that .?. I don't know ,but it seems pointless having arbitration if the losers can just keep appealing ?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:18 pm
Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:I think this will rumble on for a few years yet regardless of the outcome of the CAS.
I really hope not..
I just dont see how it wont.
If we win or lose There will be court cases to come against the owners of the plane, agents involved in the transfer and anyone else deemed to have acted wrongly over this probably by both us and Nantes.
Possible transfer bans and objections to transfer bans which we will dispute so will mean more hearings with the EFL and possibly CAS again
Emilianos family will still want closure and answers to who was responsible which could end up in even more court hearings.
I thought the CAS decision was final regarding the transfer..i assumed all parties would have agreed to that .?. I don't know ,but it seems pointless having arbitration if the losers can just keep appealing ?
I'm no expert on such things (theres only one 'know all' on this Forum) but I would think it difficult for the club (City) not to abide by the CAS decision
After that, I think their only recourse might be one of chasing individuals through the Courts on a solely monetary basis
Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:21 pm
Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:56 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:I highly expect CAS to say exactly the same as FIFA.
We should have paid them in the first place, and avoided this mess.
Cardiff City Football Club do not come out of this well.
I can only feel sorry for the family who are having to hear these stories in the UK, in France and in South America very often.
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:22 pm
dogfound wrote:Sven wrote:dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:dogfound wrote:thomasblue wrote:I think this will rumble on for a few years yet regardless of the outcome of the CAS.
I really hope not..
I just dont see how it wont.
If we win or lose There will be court cases to come against the owners of the plane, agents involved in the transfer and anyone else deemed to have acted wrongly over this probably by both us and Nantes.
Possible transfer bans and objections to transfer bans which we will dispute so will mean more hearings with the EFL and possibly CAS again
Emilianos family will still want closure and answers to who was responsible which could end up in even more court hearings.
I thought the CAS decision was final regarding the transfer..i assumed all parties would have agreed to that .?. I don't know ,but it seems pointless having arbitration if the losers can just keep appealing ?
I'm no expert on such things (theres only one 'know all' on this Forum) but I would think it difficult for the club (City) not to abide by the CAS decision
After that, I think their only recourse might be one of chasing individuals through the Courts on a solely monetary basis
that's how I see it..
it seems to have gone on forever already.. hard to believe that this time a year ago hardly any of us had a clue of who Emiliano Sala was.. I certainly didn't.
Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:57 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:I highly expect CAS to say exactly the same as FIFA.
We should have paid them in the first place, and avoided this mess.
Cardiff City Football Club do not come out of this well.
I can only feel sorry for the family who are having to hear these stories in the UK, in France and in South America very often.
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:04 pm
wez1927 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I highly expect CAS to say exactly the same as FIFA.
We should have paid them in the first place, and avoided this mess.
Cardiff City Football Club do not come out of this well.
I can only feel sorry for the family who are having to hear these stories in the UK, in France and in South America very often.
Fifa only looked at te registration of the player even they admitted they didn't look at the contracts ,I expect city to win this on the contract issues
Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:42 pm
Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:45 am
tannerblue wrote:Guys as I told you this comes down to two parts and it is a very simple scenario, yet again Cardiff’s advisors have been atrocious although again I suspect it is Tan being single minded. Let’s not forget while he has invested well at times in various non sport related businesses... he is not an educated man, dropping out of school at 14/15 and has had no successful sports investments to date.
Anyway, this comes down to the claim that he wasn’t registered for PL competition. That argument at the time I stated looked to be put together by an intern, it’s irrelevant that he was/wasn’t registered to the PL. The contract signed was completely valid - but until the signing on fee structure was amended to comply with the Premier League then he would not be able to play in that particular competition.
Secondly the flight being arranged by the agent. This was not under the instructions of Nantes meaning they are not liable. It’s as simple as that.
Those are the two things Cardiff are claiming. Both are laughable. Should have paid at the start, it has now cost far more in cash and also in reputation damage - again exactly what I said would happen at the start of the saga.
Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:28 am
bluesince62 wrote:tannerblue wrote:Guys as I told you this comes down to two parts and it is a very simple scenario, yet again Cardiff’s advisors have been atrocious although again I suspect it is Tan being single minded. Let’s not forget while he has invested well at times in various non sport related businesses... he is not an educated man, dropping out of school at 14/15 and has had no successful sports investments to date.
Anyway, this comes down to the claim that he wasn’t registered for PL competition. That argument at the time I stated looked to be put together by an intern, it’s irrelevant that he was/wasn’t registered to the PL. The contract signed was completely valid - but until the signing on fee structure was amended to comply with the Premier League then he would not be able to play in that particular competition.
Secondly the flight being arranged by the agent. This was not under the instructions of Nantes meaning they are not liable. It’s as simple as that.
Those are the two things Cardiff are claiming. Both are laughable. Should have paid at the start, it has now cost far more in cash and also in reputation damage - again exactly what I said would happen at the start of the saga.
And there's that trumpet againWhy are you concerned if it has cost more cash? Not your club, shouldn't be your concern really. Why don't you write to Tan and tell him? You could be his new financial advisor
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Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:06 am
welshcasual wrote:bluesince62 wrote:tannerblue wrote:Guys as I told you this comes down to two parts and it is a very simple scenario, yet again Cardiff’s advisors have been atrocious although again I suspect it is Tan being single minded. Let’s not forget while he has invested well at times in various non sport related businesses... he is not an educated man, dropping out of school at 14/15 and has had no successful sports investments to date.
Anyway, this comes down to the claim that he wasn’t registered for PL competition. That argument at the time I stated looked to be put together by an intern, it’s irrelevant that he was/wasn’t registered to the PL. The contract signed was completely valid - but until the signing on fee structure was amended to comply with the Premier League then he would not be able to play in that particular competition.
Secondly the flight being arranged by the agent. This was not under the instructions of Nantes meaning they are not liable. It’s as simple as that.
Those are the two things Cardiff are claiming. Both are laughable. Should have paid at the start, it has now cost far more in cash and also in reputation damage - again exactly what I said would happen at the start of the saga.
And there's that trumpet againWhy are you concerned if it has cost more cash? Not your club, shouldn't be your concern really. Why don't you write to Tan and tell him? You could be his new financial advisor
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Trumpet? No trumpet, I’m just responding to a thread that is discussion the CAS decision. I told you what the case revolves around and why it won’t win.
I’d be happy to tell Tan the same, however I would assume there are plenty of people around the club able to give the same advice, however the fact these ridiculous decisions keep getting made suggests he isn’t taking advice. Let’s not forget he dropped out of school at 14/15 and has not had any successful sports investments. I suppose you thought the rebrand was an astute group decision too did you?![]()
Unsure why you think that means I am “concerned” however. This forum says “all fans welcome” and it is an interesting case where a club is refusing to pay a transfer fee. Not the norm. Have some sense.
Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:07 am