Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:50 am
Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:19 pm
Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:09 am
NIBluebird wrote:Need this to happen
Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair
Murphy very poor today
Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:37 am
NIBluebird wrote:Need this to happen
Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair
Murphy very poor today
Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:57 pm
NIBluebird wrote:Need this to happen
Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair
Murphy very poor today
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:09 pm
Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:57 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I has a similar conversation with my mates lads yesterday.
A 30 year old who has grown up and out to make up for the unfulfilled seasons, then definitely extend his contract for another season or two
Or a 30 year old who sees his pay cheque may be diminishing soon, so is making an extra effort only for it to dissipate when he gets those extra months sealed.
I am still not sure.
We also have a lot of promising U23 midfielders and U18's (Taz Mayembe). He does take their place.
Difficult
Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:15 pm
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:41 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:47 pm
bluesince62 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time
Yeah,let's dump the only bit of creativity we have currently, without him we'd be further down the table,I agree with dogfound on this,tricky one for harris,I think tomlin may have turned a corner, I would love someone to boss midfield a bit more often,and help him supply the striker/s.![]()
Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:35 pm
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:20 pm
llan bluebird wrote:A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.
Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday
For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.
If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.
25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.
Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future
Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:39 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.
Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday
For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.
If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.
25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.
Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future
Extra year not a major gamble.
If Wallace hadn’t scored that wonder goal he wouldn’t even be getting a mention - he didn’t do a lot else. Is he available even? What would he cost?
Agree re Pack.
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:59 am
bluesince62 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.
Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday
For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.
If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.
25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.
Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future
Extra year not a major gamble.
If Wallace hadn’t scored that wonder goal he wouldn’t even be getting a mention - he didn’t do a lot else. Is he available even? What would he cost?
Agree re Pack.
We thinking the same deal for tomlin,with another year pending fitness, serious injury. Jed Wallace is a solid performer at this level imho,.ws another poor game by both teams,no one stood out from either side, was a great strike for the goal though,oh how we need someone with that up their sleeve![]()
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Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:46 am
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:53 am
llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.
According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.
If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.
On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)
Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:49 pm
dogfound wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.
According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.
If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.
On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)
I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:18 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.
According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.
If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.
On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:56 pm
dogfound wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.
According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.
If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.
On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)
I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.
Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:14 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:bluesince62 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time
Yeah,let's dump the only bit of creativity we have currently, without him we'd be further down the table,I agree with dogfound on this,tricky one for harris,I think tomlin may have turned a corner, I would love someone to boss midfield a bit more often,and help him supply the striker/s.![]()
If only we could go back in time and get Graham Kavanagh
Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:20 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:dogfound wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.
According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.
If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.
On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)
I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.
I’m pretty sure that a one year extension is written into his current contract.
Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:28 pm
bluesince62 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:dogfound wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.
According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.
If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.
On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)
I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.
I’m pretty sure that a one year extension is written into his current contract.
I read the same somewhere,looking good again todayyes he really tried this season,after confronting his demons,yet some would rather not try and keep him
how much do some posters think another player,with the same ability cost? Won't be cheap that's for sure.
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Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:16 pm
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:26 pm
Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:17 pm
llan bluebird wrote::laughing5:Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....
Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:39 pm
dogfound wrote:llan bluebird wrote::laughing5:Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....
is he proving you wrong or did you know that if he really wanted to , he could be this player..
someone said similar on another thread , how Jazz is proving his knockers wrong. what knockers ?.everyone knew he could be a good player .
Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:03 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:dogfound wrote:llan bluebird wrote::laughing5:Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....
is he proving you wrong or did you know that if he really wanted to , he could be this player..
someone said similar on another thread , how Jazz is proving his knockers wrong. what knockers ?.everyone knew he could be a good player .
Don’t think there’s any doubting both players’ qualities tbh, application and injury record were the issues with both I reckon.
Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:11 pm