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New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:50 am

Cardiff City boss Neil Harris has confirmed that the club has held initial talks with Lee Tomlin over the possibility of a new contract.

Tomlin's current deal at the Cardiff City Stadium runs out in the summer, and the mercurial playmaker is subsequently free to speak to other clubs next month.

But despite his remarkable form, there is still anxiety over the player's current contract situation, wit Bluebirds fans understandably keen to see the former Middlesbrough and Bristol City star put pen to paper on a new deal.

WalesOnline understands that several Championship rivals are keeping an eye on the situation, but the player himself is believed to be keen on extending his stay in the Welsh capital.

After a difficult spell under previous boss Neil Warnock, Tomlin is believed to be loving life under Harris, who says the wheels are in motion on a possible new deal.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:19 pm

Need this to happen

Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair

Murphy very poor today

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:09 am

NIBluebird wrote:Need this to happen

Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair

Murphy very poor today



Agree,and agree again :!: Murphy looking like a 2/3m player lately,doesn't seem to like the championship, maybe thinks he's too good :roll: at this moment I agree with most, he has to go in january,but we will have to take a huge hit on him I'm afraid,he's hardly put himself in the shop window, with his lacklustre displays :banghead: :old: :bluebird:

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:37 am

NIBluebird wrote:Need this to happen

Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair

Murphy very poor today


Agree .

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:57 pm

NIBluebird wrote:Need this to happen

Lose Tomlin and we lose all hope of any flair

Murphy very poor today



I think we are allowed to bring players with flair in...

as good as he has been this last few games.. it concerns me...similarly with jazz yesterday. yes he can play. but for how long..

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:09 pm

I has a similar conversation with my mates lads yesterday.

A 30 year old who has grown up and out to make up for the unfulfilled seasons, then definitely extend his contract for another season or two

Or a 30 year old who sees his pay cheque may be diminishing soon, so is making an extra effort only for it to dissipate when he gets those extra months sealed.

I am still not sure.

We also have a lot of promising U23 midfielders and U18's (Taz Mayembe). He does take their place.

Difficult

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:57 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I has a similar conversation with my mates lads yesterday.

A 30 year old who has grown up and out to make up for the unfulfilled seasons, then definitely extend his contract for another season or two

Or a 30 year old who sees his pay cheque may be diminishing soon, so is making an extra effort only for it to dissipate when he gets those extra months sealed.

I am still not sure.

We also have a lot of promising U23 midfielders and U18's (Taz Mayembe). He does take their place.

Difficult



really not an easy one for Harris.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:15 pm

I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:41 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time



Yeah,let's dump the only bit of creativity we have currently, without him we'd be further down the table,I agree with dogfound on this,tricky one for harris,I think tomlin may have turned a corner, I would love someone to boss midfield a bit more often,and help him supply the striker/s. :old: :bluebird:

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:47 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time



Yeah,let's dump the only bit of creativity we have currently, without him we'd be further down the table,I agree with dogfound on this,tricky one for harris,I think tomlin may have turned a corner, I would love someone to boss midfield a bit more often,and help him supply the striker/s. :old: :bluebird:

If only we could go back in time and get Graham Kavanagh

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:35 pm

A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.

Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday

For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.

If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.

25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.

Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:20 pm

llan bluebird wrote:A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.

Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday

For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.

If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.

25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.

Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future

Extra year not a major gamble.
If Wallace hadn’t scored that wonder goal he wouldn’t even be getting a mention - he didn’t do a lot else. Is he available even? What would he cost?
Agree re Pack.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:39 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.

Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday

For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.

If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.

25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.

Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future

Extra year not a major gamble.
If Wallace hadn’t scored that wonder goal he wouldn’t even be getting a mention - he didn’t do a lot else. Is he available even? What would he cost?
Agree re Pack.



We thinking the same deal for tomlin,with another year pending fitness, serious injury. Jed Wallace is a solid performer at this level imho,.ws another poor game by both teams,no one stood out from either side, was a great strike for the goal though,oh how we need someone with that up their sleeve :thumbup: :old: :bluebird:

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:59 am

bluesince62 wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:A few cameos in games is fine if you have already resigned yourself to just surviving in the championship, but it's not what successful teams are built on.
He needs to be an integral cog in the wheel and have the team and system built around him as Malky did with Whitts, exploit his strengths and hide his weaknesses.

Glatzel and the wingers have come in for much criticism for the last two games but not static Lee. We weirdly tried to play Pack as a deep lying give the the ball playmaker (as Whitts under Malky) and tomlin as a free spirited 10. No wonder Bacuna got MOM award on here, there was a lot of turf between for him to cover. Far too many times he was ahead of Glatzel when we lost the ball. Same last Saturday

For all the swagger and undoubted skill he has only managed 35 championship goals in his entire career (Wiki so maybe wrong) and turns 31 in two weeks with a history of indiscipline.

If you were Harris whose own managerial career may be defined over the next two season put your trust in him. I wouldn't.

25 year old Jed Wallace or 31 year old Tomlin, I know which i would go for in order to build my reputation.

Nothing against Tomlin he is currently our only hope of entertainment in what i am sure will be a dreary season. But he is not one for the future

Extra year not a major gamble.
If Wallace hadn’t scored that wonder goal he wouldn’t even be getting a mention - he didn’t do a lot else. Is he available even? What would he cost?
Agree re Pack.



We thinking the same deal for tomlin,with another year pending fitness, serious injury. Jed Wallace is a solid performer at this level imho,.ws another poor game by both teams,no one stood out from either side, was a great strike for the goal though,oh how we need someone with that up their sleeve :thumbup: :old: :bluebird:



your assuming he would accept a 1 year deal with provisos re injury and fitness..im not so sure
there really is quite a big risk here because at the moment he is 100% trying to prove ,not just to ourselves that he is good enough for a decent contract . same with Jazz.. could cut our losses and look in envy as they shine elsewhere on one hand...could give contracts and be robbed again on other... I don't remember our club having this sort of dilemma ever..

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:46 am

Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:53 am

llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)



I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:49 pm

dogfound wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)



I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.

I’m pretty sure that a one year extension is written into his current contract.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:18 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)



I'm that case I'd let him go.

Apprently already a high earner and only bothered to get fit this season. Reduced terms if he wants anything more than a 1 year deal. I don't think the queue will be that long for him and certainly not on what we are reported to be paying.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:56 pm

dogfound wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)



I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.

I’m pretty sure that a one year extension is written into his current contract.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:14 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I wouldn't extend his contract, he has had his time



Yeah,let's dump the only bit of creativity we have currently, without him we'd be further down the table,I agree with dogfound on this,tricky one for harris,I think tomlin may have turned a corner, I would love someone to boss midfield a bit more often,and help him supply the striker/s. :old: :bluebird:

If only we could go back in time and get Graham Kavanagh


Hell yeah :ayatollah: :old: :bluebird:

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:20 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)



I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.

I’m pretty sure that a one year extension is written into his current contract.


I read the same somewhere,looking good again today :thumbup: yes he really tried this season,after confronting his demons,yet some would rather not try and keep him :?: how much do some posters think another player,with the same ability cost? Won't be cheap that's for sure. :old: :bluebird:

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:28 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Lets all play championship manager and you are his agent.

According to an old WOL article he is on £1 million a year and his contract finishes June 2020. He'll be 31.5 years old.

If I was his agent I would want a three year deal with goal and assist bonuses on the same salary. No way would I accept a one year extension on the same terms.

On reduced terms I would expect him to get a contract closer to home (Leicester)



I agree all the talk of 1 year if fit was for 3 months ago.

I’m pretty sure that a one year extension is written into his current contract.


I read the same somewhere,looking good again today :thumbup: yes he really tried this season,after confronting his demons,yet some would rather not try and keep him :?: how much do some posters think another player,with the same ability cost? Won't be cheap that's for sure. :old: :bluebird:

Quite a quiet game for him today...,apart from 2 assists. :mrgreen:

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:16 pm

We need to keep him. He's been superb for us

Isn't it telling that Reid who was touted for that role, played regularly albeit from the bench for us. Engineers a move away. Tomlin who was signed then more or less bombed out from the start, loaned out to lesser league sides trains hard. Gets in shape and demands to be picked by his good attitude and shows us why he needs to stay there. Give me 1 Tomlin over 11 Reid's any day of the week. #leetomlinisabluehehatesbristol

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:26 pm

:laughing5: :laughing5: Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:17 pm

llan bluebird wrote::laughing5: :laughing5: Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....



is he proving you wrong or did you know that if he really wanted to , he could be this player..
someone said similar on another thread , how Jazz is proving his knockers wrong. what knockers ?.everyone knew he could be a good player .

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:39 pm

dogfound wrote:
llan bluebird wrote::laughing5: :laughing5: Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....



is he proving you wrong or did you know that if he really wanted to , he could be this player..
someone said similar on another thread , how Jazz is proving his knockers wrong. what knockers ?.everyone knew he could be a good player .

Don’t think there’s any doubting both players’ qualities tbh, application and injury record were the issues with both I reckon.

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:03 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
llan bluebird wrote::laughing5: :laughing5: Got to love Lee, I hope he continues to prove everyone (or is that just me) wrong.....



is he proving you wrong or did you know that if he really wanted to , he could be this player..
someone said similar on another thread , how Jazz is proving his knockers wrong. what knockers ?.everyone knew he could be a good player .

Don’t think there’s any doubting both players’ qualities tbh, application and injury record were the issues with both I reckon.



yep.... I haven't read threads or posts about them being poor.. or not good enough.
waste of money...due to the enormous amount of money its cost the club for very little in return has been the gist..

Re: New Tomlin Deal : Negotiation

Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:11 pm

:thumbup: