Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:25 am
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:10 pm
Balanta wrote:One of a long line of urban myths.
Medel garnered the nickname ‘el poodle’ when in English football as he was generally weak in the tackle and poor as a DMC. He had maybe 2 good games, the rest he was either distinctly average or very much below average. Cardiff fans wanted to celebrate him but he simply never gave a reason to, largely played like a player wanting to be elsewhere. Jordan Mutch was the star of that season but of course he wasn’t foreign, have a foreign name or a fanbase making excuses up for him every time he was poor. The derby defeat seemed to break him, Pablo Hernandez continually made him look slow, overweight and cumbersome, it showed he was not suited to English football. That’s the truth of the matter.
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:23 pm
Balanta wrote:One of a long line of urban myths.
Medel garnered the nickname ‘el poodle’ when in English football as he was generally weak in the tackle and poor as a DMC. He had maybe 2 good games, the rest he was either distinctly average or very much below average. Cardiff fans wanted to celebrate him but he simply never gave a reason to, largely played like a player wanting to be elsewhere. Jordan Mutch was the star of that season but of course he wasn’t foreign, have a foreign name or a fanbase making excuses up for him every time he was poor. The derby defeat seemed to break him, Pablo Hernandez continually made him look slow, overweight and cumbersome, it showed he was not suited to English football. That’s the truth of the matter.
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:39 pm
Balanta wrote:One of a long line of urban myths.
Medal garnered the nickname ‘el poodle’ when in English football as he was generally weak in the tackle and poor as a DMC. He had maybe 2 good games, the rest he was either distinctly average or very much below average. Cardiff fans wanted to celebrate him but he simply never gave a reason to, largely played like a player wanting to be elsewhere. Jordan Mutch was the star of that season but of course he wasn’t foreign, have a foreign name or a fanbase making excuses up for him every time he was poor. The derby defeat seemed to break him, Pablo Hernandez continually made him look slow, overweight and cumbersome, it showed he was not suited to English football. That’s the truth of the matter.
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:48 pm
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:49 pm
thomasblue wrote:Medel was brilliant
He plays a position that never gets praise but without him we would have taken a few more hidings than we did.
Very underrated player
On another note I dont think Malkey new how to play him as he was 2 steps ahead of most of his team mates with his football brain
Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:41 pm
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:11 pm
Balanta wrote:I love the selective memory on this forum. Solid? Brilliant? A Rock?
Jesus Christ![]()
Bottom of the league, 30 points, 74 goals conceded. He was constantly bypassed to the point I believe the player of the season that year was David Marshall as he made save after save. Lost by a margin of 3 goals or more 9 (yes nine) times.
Had his name been Christopher Williams and a free transfer from Forest Green and played exactly the same way he would have been slated. The fanbase was desperate to get behind him, he gave zero reason for it so the fanbase happily pretended he did. I remember at the time people were saying he was playing well for the club and giving the reason that he played well for Chile.
Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:02 am
Alan_in_China wrote:Balanta wrote:I love the selective memory on this forum. Solid? Brilliant? A Rock?
Jesus Christ![]()
Bottom of the league, 30 points, 74 goals conceded. He was constantly bypassed to the point I believe the player of the season that year was David Marshall as he made save after save. Lost by a margin of 3 goals or more 9 (yes nine) times.
Had his name been Christopher Williams and a free transfer from Forest Green and played exactly the same way he would have been slated. The fanbase was desperate to get behind him, he gave zero reason for it so the fanbase happily pretended he did. I remember at the time people were saying he was playing well for the club and giving the reason that he played well for Chile.
I meant to reply to your earlier post. You are absolutely right!
Cardiff fans were desperate for him to become a cult hero; he seemed to tick all the boxes prior to joining us.
However, he was slow, passed sideways or backwards, and we never got to see that famed aggression. He really did look like he was carrying a 'spare tyre' around his midriff, and never looked fully fit.
Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:43 am
Balanta wrote:Alan_in_China wrote:Balanta wrote:I love the selective memory on this forum. Solid? Brilliant? A Rock?
Jesus Christ![]()
Bottom of the league, 30 points, 74 goals conceded. He was constantly bypassed to the point I believe the player of the season that year was David Marshall as he made save after save. Lost by a margin of 3 goals or more 9 (yes nine) times.
Had his name been Christopher Williams and a free transfer from Forest Green and played exactly the same way he would have been slated. The fanbase was desperate to get behind him, he gave zero reason for it so the fanbase happily pretended he did. I remember at the time people were saying he was playing well for the club and giving the reason that he played well for Chile.
I meant to reply to your earlier post. You are absolutely right!
Cardiff fans were desperate for him to become a cult hero; he seemed to tick all the boxes prior to joining us.
However, he was slow, passed sideways or backwards, and we never got to see that famed aggression. He really did look like he was carrying a 'spare tyre' around his midriff, and never looked fully fit.
Without question, you are spot on. With Chile he plays as a third CB, but he doesn’t have the physical attributes (height) to play there in English football, he would have got roasted more than he already was that season. So he was deployed as a DMC (a position often played for at club level) and looked completely lost with the pace of the league.
Fulham was the only game he seemed to get a handle on, the rest of the time he was treading water and often blowing out of his arse after an hour. His tackles per game stat was shocking considering the possession the opposition had on average and when he did get the ball from Marshall he gave it to one of the other defenders as soon as any pressure came onto him - happily transferring that pressure elsewhere, his average pass must have been about 4 yards... backwards - his actual key passes were next to non existent and the stats show that.
As you say, due to the stories about him prior to joining, people were desperate to make him a cult hero. But anyone pretending he was anything other than mediocre overall is lying to themselves to convince themselves of this myth - that tends to happen on here a lot.
The stats:-
Tackles per game - 2.3
Interceptions - 1.9 (So including tackles, that’s 4 defensive contributions in 90 mins in a season of near constant pressure, one defensive contribution every 25 mins or so).
Blocks - 0.3 (that’s one every 3 games)
Key passes - 0.2 (one offensive key pass every 5 games from central midfield)
Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:34 am