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O/T Politics: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:26 am

So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as PM.

Please don’t celebrate too much, though, as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you Brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a to-do list for you.

1. Get Brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised, so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, etc. In fact there arevabout 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done, please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the NHS or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of January. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. OK, so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. N.B. This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. N.B. This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all British about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember, if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, Brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:51 am

BlueGog wrote:So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as PM.

Please don’t celebrate too much, though, as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you Brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a to-do list for you.

1. Get Brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised, so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, etc. In fact there arevabout 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done, please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the NHS or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of January. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. OK, so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. N.B. This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. N.B. This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all British about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember, if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, Brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.


Not sure what you expect a football forum to do exactly? You’d probably be better of sending this to politicians.

Its called democracy buttercup. Get over it you sound pathetic.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:59 am

What an embarrassing post!!

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:11 am

Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:35 pm

BlueGog wrote:So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as PM.

Please don’t celebrate too much, though, as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you Brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a to-do list for you.

1. Get Brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised, so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, etc. In fact there arevabout 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done, please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the NHS or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of January. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. OK, so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. N.B. This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. N.B. This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all British about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember, if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, Brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.




A pitiful whinging post from a very, very sore loser. So many people I've spoken to recently told me that although they voted to remain, they have since been so appalled by the behaviour of 'remoaners' that if there had have been a second referendum they would have voted to leave. And they found the "didn't know what they were voting for" accusation to be insulting and very condescending.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:37 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


..like it was after the referendum? and the 2017 election? oh yes the tories famously plan ahead for this sort of thing dont they?

have a word

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:38 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


How is it? I’m also resigned to the result so now I expect everything to be carried out as promised instead of dragging us even further through the dirt

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:51 pm

Not sure why anyone would complain about the result, it's called democracy. We had two of the big parties with a clear message, one stated clearly that they wanted Brexit done, the other, although they had the word democrats in their name, were going to ignore the democratic result of the referendum and revoke article 50. One ended up with 365 seats, the other finished with 11. The other big party couldn't really make their mind up, but had a mix of remainers and leavers voting for them, eg. RCT voted Leave but still voted Labour at the general election, just as they always have done and always will do. A massive win for one party, and humiliation for the others (excluding the Scottish nationalists). I would say the country has spoken, and no point going over the same ground until the next election in 5 years, at which time Labour will tell us that the Conservatives will kill off the NHS, just as they have repeatedly told us for half a century.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:16 pm

BlueGog wrote:So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as PM.

Please don’t celebrate too much, though, as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you Brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a to-do list for you.

1. Get Brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised, so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, etc. In fact there arevabout 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done, please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the NHS or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of January. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. OK, so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. N.B. This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. N.B. This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all British about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember, if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, Brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.


Spot on! - brilliant post. All you are saying is keep your promises - which of course wont happen. The turkeys have voted for Christmas and must now bear the consequences.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:20 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


How is it? I’m also resigned to the result so now I expect everything to be carried out as promised instead of dragging us even further through the dirt


I’m not sure what you are asking by saying how is it?

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:22 pm

splottthedog wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


..like it was after the referendum? and the 2017 election? oh yes the tories famously plan ahead for this sort of thing dont they?

have a word


You obviously don’t understand politics then, without a majority in parliament the chances of you making your plan work are slim to none. Now there’s a majority it can actually happen.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:22 pm

The election result was emphatic, he finally has a proper mandate as far as I'm concerned.I believe he will get brexit done though getting a trade deal done by the end of 2020 is a tall order.But aside from brexit I hope he keeps his promise s otherwise he'll lose the first time tory voters he picked up this time as he does have form over breaking promises.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:22 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


How is it? I’m also resigned to the result so now I expect everything to be carried out as promised instead of dragging us even further through the dirt




If you believe everything gets carried out your probably going to be disappointed, but the same would have applied if labour won! politics is never that simple... take nhs mentioned the poster said let's fund nhs instead of EU doesn't say they will? just mearly saying can spend 350m on better things than EU could be nhs could be anything else worthy of 350m .. :old:

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:46 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
splottthedog wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


..like it was after the referendum? and the 2017 election? oh yes the tories famously plan ahead for this sort of thing dont they?

have a word


You obviously don’t understand politics then, without a majority in parliament the chances of you making your plan work are slim to none. Now there’s a majority it can actually happen.


but even without a majority there was no plan.

also worth noting that at the time of the referendum in 2016 they had a majority, and still had no plan whatsoever....maybe keep your assumptions about my knowledge to yourself?

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:05 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Seems like a case of someone who’s unable to accept defeat. The country has spoken.

I’m pretty sure the Tories know exactly what they have to do, and no doubt a plan was already in place.


Whatever the plans the Tories have I really hope they're better than the one involving the ferry company that they handed a very lucrative contract to that had no staff, no ferries and no experience of running a seaborne transport company. I seem to remember that plan costing the taxpayer millions.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:11 pm

Sore loser

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Thanks Bluegog. All you have to remember is this.

Brexit.. it’s us.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:20 pm

Fight, fight, fight :laughing5: f@ck the politics,they are all lying,backstabbing c@nts,promise the world,and deliver a pastie :banghead: :old: :bluebird:

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:17 pm

What a cringey little cry baby post.

And on a football forum too.

Embarrassing.

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:44 pm

Bore off you sad person. This is a football forum, not a politics forum. I see enough of you people on Facebook! Put this into a letter and post to 10 Downing Street!

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:50 pm

:sleepy2: :roll:

Re: Congratulations

Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:54 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Fight, fight, fight :laughing5: f@ck the politics,they are all lying,backstabbing c@nts,promise the world,and deliver a pastie :banghead: :old: :bluebird:


Couldn't agree more!

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:24 am

BlueGog wrote:So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as PM.

Please don’t celebrate too much, though, as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you Brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a to-do list for you.

1. Get Brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised, so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, etc. In fact there arevabout 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done, please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the NHS or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of January. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. OK, so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. N.B. This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. N.B. This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all British about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember, if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, Brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.



you will forever say we told you so no matter how it turns out..
and yes number 6 . how about accepting democracy instead of being angry.

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:47 am

What a pitiful post by the OB! What I cannot understand, and I am a bit stupid I admit, is that there was a democratic binary vote...."once in a generation" I was told by the PM!!!!!!

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:12 am

All this from a man who thinks an independent Wales would make us all rich, by selling water to the English :lol:

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:56 am

Jock wrote:All this from a man who thinks an independent Wales would make us all rich, by selling water to the English :lol:



well by his and Adam Prices figures it would.
3pence per litre when a 4 person household uses 148,000 litres per year equates to £ 4,440 a year water rates over and above what they pay now. if it came to it my money would on the English building a few damns..

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:35 am

dogfound wrote:
Jock wrote:All this from a man who thinks an independent Wales would make us all rich, by selling water to the English :lol:



well by his and Adam Prices figures it would.
3pence per litre when a 4 person household uses 148,000 litres per year equates to £ 4,440 a year water rates over and above what they pay now. if it came to it my money would on the English building a few damns..

Allowing 5 years to complete the dams, approx 10,000,000 households in England that’s 22billion divide by one million Welsh homes that’s £4,000 or possibly £44,000 per household :lol: fekkin hell Barry will be like St Tropez.

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:03 am

TheHangedMan wrote:What a pitiful post by the OB! What I cannot understand, and I am a bit stupid I admit, is that there was a democratic binary vote...."once in a generation" I was told by the PM!!!!!!


it was an advisory referendum, it was written in the referendum act. anyone who read the act would have known that they were voting in a referendum that was not legally binding.

i get the feeling most people didnt read the act before they voted

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:40 am

splottthedog wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:What a pitiful post by the OB! What I cannot understand, and I am a bit stupid I admit, is that there was a democratic binary vote...."once in a generation" I was told by the PM!!!!!!


it was an advisory referendum, it was written in the referendum act. anyone who read the act would have known that they were voting in a referendum that was not legally binding.

i get the feeling most people didnt read the act before they voted




you just can not ask people to vote for something and then make out it doesn't count.. and if you want evidence of that take a look at last Thursdays result.. you obviously haven't..
Labour need to get their heads around this sharpish. not the nonsense they are talking at the moment..

Re: Congratulations

Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:46 am

Jock wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Jock wrote:All this from a man who thinks an independent Wales would make us all rich, by selling water to the English :lol:



well by his and Adam Prices figures it would.
3pence per litre when a 4 person household uses 148,000 litres per year equates to £ 4,440 a year water rates over and above what they pay now. if it came to it my money would on the English building a few damns..

Allowing 5 years to complete the dams, approx 10,000,000 households in England that’s 22billion divide by one million Welsh homes that’s £4,000 or possibly £44,000 per household :lol: fekkin hell Barry will be like St Tropez.



they actually did a projection based on the percentage of water they get from Wales. which worked out quite a bit less gain per household in Wales , but the 3 pence per litre is unrealistic.