Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:17 am
Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:21 am
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Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:03 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:28 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:46 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:50 pm
dogfound wrote:Harris needs to stop his obsession with him and move on..
he played only 22 out of a possible 64 for Fulham due to injury..
and 36 out of a possible 150 for ourselves..
just accept we have to pay him until June and leave it there..
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:48 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:59 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:02 pm
dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:07 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:11 pm
Escott1927 wrote:I said he would be out again before christmas. Absolute joke.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:17 pm
2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:30 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:31 pm
Escott1927 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
I think a lot of fans expected to see a RB come in at the start of the season. Warnock tried to sign a defender on loan at the start of the prem season but it didnt happen. 2 transfer windows later we still havnt got anyone in....
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:25 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:29 pm
dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
I think a lot of fans expected to see a RB come in at the start of the season. Warnock tried to sign a defender on loan at the start of the prem season but it didnt happen. 2 transfer windows later we still havnt got anyone in....
he tried to sign and loan a number of right backs. who was going to sign for nailed on relegation candidates..?
the whole Sala transfer which we know far more about than we would normally do I think showed how difficult it was/is to sign players . but this year playing a level down ? pelts is not the worse youll see and with Jazz apparently fit It should have been less of an issue..
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:42 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:14 pm
Escott1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
I think a lot of fans expected to see a RB come in at the start of the season. Warnock tried to sign a defender on loan at the start of the prem season but it didnt happen. 2 transfer windows later we still havnt got anyone in....
he tried to sign and loan a number of right backs. who was going to sign for nailed on relegation candidates..?
the whole Sala transfer which we know far more about than we would normally do I think showed how difficult it was/is to sign players . but this year playing a level down ? pelts is not the worse youll see and with Jazz apparently fit It should have been less of an issue..
Arter, camarasa and Niasse signed on loan and Reid, Murphy and Cunningham signed permanently? Despite that we would likely be relegated. I find it hard to believe that there wasnt a single half decent RB that would sign for us when we had prem status. We played majority of the prem season with an out of position CB playing at RB so you would have thought it would have been made a priority before next window. A RB still wasnt brought in at the start of this year either despite that we knew Manga was going and having all summer to identify players. Pelts is a solid defender but offers very little going forward. He also doesnt have a great injury record either. Jazz's injury record is an absolute joke so relying on him would have been stupid. Fair enough missing your targets on one but 2 more windows as well? We've got 4 senior keepers in our squad at the moment. Warnock played one striker yet we have Madine, Ward, Bogle, Glatzel and Vassel on our books. It is bad recruitment at the end of the day
Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:20 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:43 pm
dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
I think a lot of fans expected to see a RB come in at the start of the season. Warnock tried to sign a defender on loan at the start of the prem season but it didnt happen. 2 transfer windows later we still havnt got anyone in....
he tried to sign and loan a number of right backs. who was going to sign for nailed on relegation candidates..?
the whole Sala transfer which we know far more about than we would normally do I think showed how difficult it was/is to sign players . but this year playing a level down ? pelts is not the worse youll see and with Jazz apparently fit It should have been less of an issue..
Arter, camarasa and Niasse signed on loan and Reid, Murphy and Cunningham signed permanently? Despite that we would likely be relegated. I find it hard to believe that there wasnt a single half decent RB that would sign for us when we had prem status. We played majority of the prem season with an out of position CB playing at RB so you would have thought it would have been made a priority before next window. A RB still wasnt brought in at the start of this year either despite that we knew Manga was going and having all summer to identify players. Pelts is a solid defender but offers very little going forward. He also doesnt have a great injury record either. Jazz's injury record is an absolute joke so relying on him would have been stupid. Fair enough missing your targets on one but 2 more windows as well? We've got 4 senior keepers in our squad at the moment. Warnock played one striker yet we have Madine, Ward, Bogle, Glatzel and Vassel on our books. It is bad recruitment at the end of the day
Arter...was told early on he was surplus at Bournemouth and waited for a better offer until the last day before signing.
Camarasa..admitted he wasn't keen at all and his girlfriend talked him around..
Niasse...nowhere near the Everton team and poor..
the other 3 were championship players hoping to make a go at the prem... we were lucky to get the 1st 2 , the club tried to get quite a few that just did not happen..
pelts injury prone ?
Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:15 pm
Escott1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
I think a lot of fans expected to see a RB come in at the start of the season. Warnock tried to sign a defender on loan at the start of the prem season but it didnt happen. 2 transfer windows later we still havnt got anyone in....
he tried to sign and loan a number of right backs. who was going to sign for nailed on relegation candidates..?
the whole Sala transfer which we know far more about than we would normally do I think showed how difficult it was/is to sign players . but this year playing a level down ? pelts is not the worse youll see and with Jazz apparently fit It should have been less of an issue..
Arter, camarasa and Niasse signed on loan and Reid, Murphy and Cunningham signed permanently? Despite that we would likely be relegated. I find it hard to believe that there wasnt a single half decent RB that would sign for us when we had prem status. We played majority of the prem season with an out of position CB playing at RB so you would have thought it would have been made a priority before next window. A RB still wasnt brought in at the start of this year either despite that we knew Manga was going and having all summer to identify players. Pelts is a solid defender but offers very little going forward. He also doesnt have a great injury record either. Jazz's injury record is an absolute joke so relying on him would have been stupid. Fair enough missing your targets on one but 2 more windows as well? We've got 4 senior keepers in our squad at the moment. Warnock played one striker yet we have Madine, Ward, Bogle, Glatzel and Vassel on our books. It is bad recruitment at the end of the day
Arter...was told early on he was surplus at Bournemouth and waited for a better offer until the last day before signing.
Camarasa..admitted he wasn't keen at all and his girlfriend talked him around..
Niasse...nowhere near the Everton team and poor..
the other 3 were championship players hoping to make a go at the prem... we were lucky to get the 1st 2 , the club tried to get quite a few that just did not happen..
pelts injury prone ?
Exactly. There will always be players not in a teams plans who are looking to play regular football and there are always players who will jump at the opportunity to be playing in a league above. Whatever reasons you want to give, we need cover at RB as the problem has not been addressed for a few seasons now.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:52 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:38 pm
dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Escott1927 wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I cant understand why he is still with us or why we gave him a new contract, who the hell is his agent.
I think its a case of wishful thinking... he most definitely can play football and if fit and interested is good enough at this level.. Trollope thought he could getting him playing, Warnock maybe should have cut his loses. but where do you get someone as decent as him free ? anyway our new manager seems to be going down the same route of hoping to succeed where others failed.. and being new is not really an excuse as Jazzs record is there to be looked at. but its very very frustrating having decent players that for whatever reason you can not pick
Im not sure when his contract was extended but WoL said it was this summer, to me last summer was the obvious time to bring in a property first choice right back and still have Peltier for this season as back up.
If he could stay fit he would be first choice no doubt but a bit like players like Ward you can never trust them to stay fit for long periods.
I think a lot of fans expected to see a RB come in at the start of the season. Warnock tried to sign a defender on loan at the start of the prem season but it didnt happen. 2 transfer windows later we still havnt got anyone in....
he tried to sign and loan a number of right backs. who was going to sign for nailed on relegation candidates..?
the whole Sala transfer which we know far more about than we would normally do I think showed how difficult it was/is to sign players . but this year playing a level down ? pelts is not the worse youll see and with Jazz apparently fit It should have been less of an issue..
Arter, camarasa and Niasse signed on loan and Reid, Murphy and Cunningham signed permanently? Despite that we would likely be relegated. I find it hard to believe that there wasnt a single half decent RB that would sign for us when we had prem status. We played majority of the prem season with an out of position CB playing at RB so you would have thought it would have been made a priority before next window. A RB still wasnt brought in at the start of this year either despite that we knew Manga was going and having all summer to identify players. Pelts is a solid defender but offers very little going forward. He also doesnt have a great injury record either. Jazz's injury record is an absolute joke so relying on him would have been stupid. Fair enough missing your targets on one but 2 more windows as well? We've got 4 senior keepers in our squad at the moment. Warnock played one striker yet we have Madine, Ward, Bogle, Glatzel and Vassel on our books. It is bad recruitment at the end of the day
Arter...was told early on he was surplus at Bournemouth and waited for a better offer until the last day before signing.
Camarasa..admitted he wasn't keen at all and his girlfriend talked him around..
Niasse...nowhere near the Everton team and poor..
the other 3 were championship players hoping to make a go at the prem... we were lucky to get the 1st 2 , the club tried to get quite a few that just did not happen..
pelts injury prone ?
Exactly. There will always be players not in a teams plans who are looking to play regular football and there are always players who will jump at the opportunity to be playing in a league above. Whatever reasons you want to give, we need cover at RB as the problem has not been addressed for a few seasons now.
cover ?
lets be honest buying players for cover at our club is a real quick way to get fans moaning...many of our fans don't accept the idea of squad players.. and really how many decent right backs are there in this league better than who we have who are not playing for top half clubs already ..
and not exactly . signing 2 players not keen to come here , on deadline day when they have not much option doesn't prove how easy it is...we ended up taking who was prepared to come.
you make it sound so easy. but that's not how Dalman and 2 or 3 managers have described it..but eh oh..
Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:NEIL HARRIS:
Injured again.
Jazz Richards?
He doesn’t come into the reckoning this weekend, he’s injured. It’s only a slight one in the calf area. It’s a frustration because he was on the bench (against Barnsley), he did the running after the game and worked extremely hard, but got injured.
Came in on Monday, did the warm-up and just felt the area. He’s had a scan it’s only a short-term one. Only seven to 10 days. It rules him out of tomorrow.
It’s a real shame. I’ve been very clear my thoughts on Jazz, I’d like him to have more of an involvement in the group. We have to make sure he’s fit
Harris
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:27 pm
englishbluebird wrote:As much as i respect NW, The fact that he was unable or unwilling to sign a right back is just mind boggling. If Peltier and Bennet who have their share of bad games get inured then what?
Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:54 pm
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:12 am
Charlie Harper wrote:Jazz mate, you need to look at yourself in the mirror and leave the club today.
He is a disgrace and nobody can be permanently injured this long.