Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:02 pm
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:27 pm
stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:39 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
At least many of them will still have a job and have the opportunity to build their pension pots without having them plundered to pay for impossible promises.
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 pm
ffs wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
At least many of them will still have a job and have the opportunity to build their pension pots without having them plundered to pay for impossible promises.
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Hardly impossible. Corbyn's proposals weren't even that radical. The only reason you feel like that is you've become used to the Tory policies
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:55 pm
stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:59 pm
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:13 am
ffs wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
At least many of them will still have a job and have the opportunity to build their pension pots without having them plundered to pay for impossible promises.
Hardly impossible. Corbyn's proposals weren't even that radical. The only reason you feel like that is you've become used to the Tory policies
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:35 am
dogfound wrote:ffs wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
At least many of them will still have a job and have the opportunity to build their pension pots without having them plundered to pay for impossible promises.
Hardly impossible. Corbyn's proposals weren't even that radical. The only reason you feel like that is you've become used to the Tory policies
he wanted to chuck money at things that are not priorities..
socialism shouldn't and isn't about spend like f**k now and sod the future..
and no they were not impossible, but as said above would have been paid by robbing pension pots and huge borrowing.
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:55 am
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:28 am
ffs wrote:dogfound wrote:ffs wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
At least many of them will still have a job and have the opportunity to build their pension pots without having them plundered to pay for impossible promises.
Hardly impossible. Corbyn's proposals weren't even that radical. The only reason you feel like that is you've become used to the Tory policies
he wanted to chuck money at things that are not priorities..
socialism shouldn't and isn't about spend like f**k now and sod the future..
and no they were not impossible, but as said above would have been paid by robbing pension pots and huge borrowing.
Nonsense. It would have been paid for by cutting off the tax loopholes that the super rich are using, and forcing them to pay their share. The Tories are the ones you should be worried about getting caught with their fingers in the pension pots!
Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:45 am
Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:21 am
Moonstomper wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:21 am
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:50 am
Cheshirebluebird wrote:Working class conned into thinking that the Tories will look after them - Will people ever learn!
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:58 am
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:06 pm
stickywicket wrote:Cheshirebluebird wrote:Working class conned into thinking that the Tories will look after them - Will people ever learn!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the- ... -pd2r8rqcj
f**k me some will never retire.
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:38 pm
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:57 pm
snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Perhaps if our MP's had accepted the democratic decision three and a half years earlier, this may not have happened. I think it's a vote for democracy, and while I know a few remainers who think we should have abided by that referendum and voted Tory, I don't actually know any leavers who have changed their minds and voted for the Liberal Remain Party.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:44 pm
Panzermouse wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Perhaps if our MP's had accepted the democratic decision three and a half years earlier, this may not have happened. I think it's a vote for democracy, and while I know a few remainers who think we should have abided by that referendum and voted Tory, I don't actually know any leavers who have changed their minds and voted for the Liberal Remain Party.
Do you think that Scotland should also benefit now from a democratic vote on the independence of Scotland seeing as the SNP and the electorate in general are pro- EU?
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:46 pm
Panzermouse wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Perhaps if our MP's had accepted the democratic decision three and a half years earlier, this may not have happened. I think it's a vote for democracy, and while I know a few remainers who think we should have abided by that referendum and voted Tory, I don't actually know any leavers who have changed their minds and voted for the Liberal Remain Party.
Do you think that Scotland should also benefit now from a democratic vote on the independence of Scotland seeing as the SNP and the electorate in general are pro- EU?
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:55 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers
At least many of them will still have a job and have the opportunity to build their pension pots without having them plundered to pay for impossible promises.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:57 pm
Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:00 pm
T1JMO wrote:FYI this guy is a troll - select 'ignore'.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:06 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Panzermouse wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Perhaps if our MP's had accepted the democratic decision three and a half years earlier, this may not have happened. I think it's a vote for democracy, and while I know a few remainers who think we should have abided by that referendum and voted Tory, I don't actually know any leavers who have changed their minds and voted for the Liberal Remain Party.
Do you think that Scotland should also benefit now from a democratic vote on the independence of Scotland seeing as the SNP and the electorate in general are pro- EU?
I agree that it doesn't mean an independence vote would mean Scotland would vote to leave now. But I can't see this issue going away anytime soon. I don't see what the Conservatives can offer the Scots that will lessen the calls for another vote. Scotland has clearly blown out all major UK parties.
I don't have a problem with it myself. Others will say they had a democratic vote a few years back when the SNP told them it was a once in a lifetime vote. Just because the SNP have won the majority of seats does not mean the population will vote for independence. Labour have just won in RCT, but the vote in the referendum was 53% to 46% in favour of leave, and would probably have a similar outcome if voted for again. Not sure Scotland would vote for independence.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:52 pm
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:49 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Panzermouse wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Perhaps if our MP's had accepted the democratic decision three and a half years earlier, this may not have happened. I think it's a vote for democracy, and while I know a few remainers who think we should have abided by that referendum and voted Tory, I don't actually know any leavers who have changed their minds and voted for the Liberal Remain Party.
Do you think that Scotland should also benefit now from a democratic vote on the independence of Scotland seeing as the SNP and the electorate in general are pro- EU?
I don't have a problem with it myself. Others will say they had a democratic vote a few years back when the SNP told them it was a once in a lifetime vote. Just because the SNP have won the majority of seats does not mean the population will vote for independence. Labour have just won in RCT, but the vote in the referendum was 53% to 46% in favour of leave, and would probably have a similar outcome if voted for again. Not sure Scotland would vote for independence.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:24 pm
dogfound wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Panzermouse wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:snoopystorm wrote:Let’s be clear, it wasn’t a general election to run the country it was a 2nd referendum on Brexit, the tories pushed the slogan ‘let’s get Brexit done’ from day 1, their manifest was an afterthought, 2017’s re-released with a few figure tweaks.
I’m not happy with the result but I’ve accepted what happened as I do every election, just hope now he comes good on his words..... only time will tell
And to be completely honest neither BoJo nor Corbyn are fit enough to run our country.
Perhaps if our MP's had accepted the democratic decision three and a half years earlier, this may not have happened. I think it's a vote for democracy, and while I know a few remainers who think we should have abided by that referendum and voted Tory, I don't actually know any leavers who have changed their minds and voted for the Liberal Remain Party.
Do you think that Scotland should also benefit now from a democratic vote on the independence of Scotland seeing as the SNP and the electorate in general are pro- EU?
I don't have a problem with it myself. Others will say they had a democratic vote a few years back when the SNP told them it was a once in a lifetime vote. Just because the SNP have won the majority of seats does not mean the population will vote for independence. Labour have just won in RCT, but the vote in the referendum was 53% to 46% in favour of leave, and would probably have a similar outcome if voted for again. Not sure Scotland would vote for independence.
if you vote enough times you will get the result you want...
tbh mate I think all referendums should require a 60% vote due to the fact they tend to be ireversible
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:28 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:The only hope this Labour party could have had was if the voting age had been lowered to eight. People who believe Hogwarts is a real school might have been gullible enough to fall for the Labour promises, although to be fair, that might have been a fairy tale too far, even for kids.
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:32 pm
stickywicket wrote:I'm 67.I get 2 company pensions plus the new state pension.All you people who voted Tory and are working carry on paying your National Insurance stamps so I can carry on living in comfort.Some of you will never reach pension age,Suckers