" CARDIFF CITY'S CAS EMILIANO SALA APPEAL "

CCfc appeal over ameliano transfer being held in spring by CAS!



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Cardiff City's appeal against paying the first instalment of 6m euros (£5.3m) to Nantes for £15m striker Emiliano Sala is set for next spring.

The appeal will be heard by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Lausanne, Switzerland.

Cardiff do not believe they are liable for a transfer fee, but Fifa ruled in September the club must pay for Sala.

The Argentine, who was 28, died in a plane crash in January while travelling from France to join his new club.

French club Nantes and Cardiff have since been in dispute over fee payments, with world governing body Fifa rejecting the Welsh club's arguments.

Cardiff have claimed they were not liable for any of the full £15m fee because Sala was not officially their player when he died.

The club refused to make interim payments, claiming the deal was not legally binding.

A CAS statement confirmed: "An appeal arbitration procedure has been opened... a hearing is likely to be fixed in spring 2020. A final award is not expected before June 2020."

BBC Sport has also learned that the second instalment of the £15m fee agreed for Sala is due to be paid in January 2020.

Nantes argued that having signed with Cardiff, Sala's contract with Nantes was over and that he had become a Cardiff player.

Cardiff could also face a three-window transfer ban if they fail to pay Nantes the first instalment for Sala.

The striker was recruited while Cardiff were in the Premier League and the Bluebirds have since been relegated to the Championship.

Cardiff believe the transfer was null and void, saying the Premier League had rejected certain clauses requested by Nantes in the original contract and that Sala never had a chance to review or sign the final version, meaning their record signing was not registered as a Premier League player.

The plane carrying Sala and pilot David Ibbotson, 59, crashed in the English Channel on 21 January, two days after the player's transfer was announced.

The footballer's body was recovered from the wreckage, but Ibbotson, from Crowle, North Lincolnshire, has still not been found.

Sala was exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide prior to the crash, a report later revealed.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

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Cardiff City's appeal against paying the first instalment of 6m euros (£5.3m) to Nantes for £15m striker Emiliano Sala is set for next spring.

The appeal will be heard by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Lausanne, Switzerland.

Cardiff do not believe they are liable for a transfer fee, but Fifa ruled in September the club must pay for Sala.

The Argentine, who was 28, died in a plane crash in January while travelling from France to join his new club.

French club Nantes and Cardiff have since been in dispute over fee payments, with world governing body Fifa rejecting the Welsh club's arguments.

Cardiff have claimed they were not liable for any of the full £15m fee because Sala was not officially their player when he died.

The club refused to make interim payments, claiming the deal was not legally binding.

A CAS statement confirmed: "An appeal arbitration procedure has been opened... a hearing is likely to be fixed in spring 2020. A final award is not expected before June 2020."

BBC Sport has also learned that the second instalment of the £15m fee agreed for Sala is due to be paid in January 2020.

Nantes argued that having signed with Cardiff, Sala's contract with Nantes was over and that he had become a Cardiff player.

Cardiff could also face a three-window transfer ban if they fail to pay Nantes the first instalment for Sala.

The striker was recruited while Cardiff were in the Premier League and the Bluebirds have since been relegated to the Championship.

Cardiff believe the transfer was null and void, saying the Premier League had rejected certain clauses requested by Nantes in the original contract and that Sala never had a chance to review or sign the final version, meaning their record signing was not registered as a Premier League player.

The plane carrying Sala and pilot David Ibbotson, 59, crashed in the English Channel on 21 January, two days after the player's transfer was announced.

The footballer's body was recovered from the wreckage, but Ibbotson, from Crowle, North Lincolnshire, has still not been found.

Sala was exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide prior to the crash, a report later revealed.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.

We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.

We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too

yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

Dont be surprised if money is set aside to pay if it becomes necessary ? Whole point of appeal is to clarify legal status of transfer and for club to act accordingly when CAS finish appeal .. this is final and end of this part of situation ! Next will come litigation by the losers probably...

Surely we had the money to pay for Sala, if the disaster hasn't have happened he would be here and we would be paying for him.

As for CAS we all knew this was going to happen from the off.

Surely we had the money to pay for Sala, if the disaster hasn't have happened he would be here and we would be paying for him.

As for CAS we all knew this was going to happen from the off.

We did have money no question about it! but it's an unprecedented event and sure future transfers will look at this when CAS delivers verdict...also i believe hull have refused to pay final instalment on a transfer due to club not being informed of players cancer diagnosis and subsequent unavailability to play for club? So things are not as black and white as people are making out with ameliano..

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

Surely we had the money to pay for Sala, if the disaster hasn't have happened he would be here and we would be paying for him.

As for CAS we all knew this was going to happen from the off.

We did have money no question about it! but it's an unprecedented event and sure future transfers will look at this when CAS delivers verdict...also i believe hull have refused to pay final instalment on a transfer due to club not being informed of players cancer diagnosis and subsequent unavailability to play for club? So things are not as black and white as people are making out with ameliano..

not being informed a player had cancer...?

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.

I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.

I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money

it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...

If clubs are going to dodge agreed future payments if circumstances change maybe fifa, fa and pl should insist transfer fees are simplified so buying club pays on the day what player deemed to worth and all the other stuff is stopped. Be a good way to down value agent power at the same time.

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.

I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money

it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...

Even if he wasn't legally our player I don't think that should have stopped any of the tributes, it seems highly likely if he wasn't legally our player he was soon going to be and died on his way to the club, I think the tributes were correct irrespective of legal formalities. Although that's not to say we owe the money.

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.

I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money

it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...

Even if he wasn't legally our player I don't think that should have stopped any of the tributes, it seems highly likely if he wasn't legally our player he was soon going to be and died on his way to the club, I think the tributes were correct irrespective of legal formalities. Although that's not to say we owe the money.

really not sure about that mate.. maybe had the club come out with this straight away.
but it felt, and still does that the appeal was an after thought.
yes we could still have had the tribute , probably toned down , with the club having already said there were issues with registration … that is not what happened..

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.

I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money

it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...

Even if he wasn't legally our player I don't think that should have stopped any of the tributes, it seems highly likely if he wasn't legally our player he was soon going to be and died on his way to the club, I think the tributes were correct irrespective of legal formalities. Although that's not to say we owe the money.

really not sure about that mate.. maybe had the club come out with this straight away.
but it felt, and still does that the appeal was an after thought.
yes we could still have had the tribute , probably toned down , with the club having already said there were issues with registration … that is not what happened..

Maybe but then coming out about the transfer formalities after someone has died isn't really classy either. Certainly an awkward situation.

He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.

BarryFraud being as deliberately and controversially stupid as ever!

Cardiff City FC fully entitled to appeal (same as anyone else) and will abide by the outcome good or bad

They (City) may win or they may not; but either way they are entitled to try and (despite stirring to the contrary) very few will think any worse of them as a club

Most have their own problems and issues to deal with without concerning themselves with the troubles of others

Just think how much you give a hoot about other clubs in the same position and the conclusion from most would be VERY LITTLE!

How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.

How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.

Subject to clearance he was our player obviously he wasn't cleared as he never signed the new contract

How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.

If he was our player why have fifa said city can appeal to CAS? Could it be that there is uncertainty! Fifa just adjudicated on whether city should pay nante installments not was contracts exchanged and legally binding..... the issue as arisen because faw submitted papers for international clearance to fifa as is practice, anyway we now know that all will be clear after CAS as done its work and they've looked at every aspect of the signing..

Just to show it's not only us hull refused to pay Barnsley after he sighned for them? Not same i know but just because a contract was sighned it doesnt mean it cannot be challenged. .....Hull City refuse to pay Barnsley £200,000 final transfer fee instalment for defender Angus MacDonald, who was diagnosed with cancer..

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/f ... le-3545350

Hull signed Macdonald in January 2018, on the 31st to be precise, and he was diagnosed in September 2019. It would seem the poor man has had other medical conditions to manage too.

I'm sure Hull completed a full medical on transfer deadline day!

Two wrongs don't make a right and Hull must be accused of being utterly insensitive to challenge when one of their own players is undergoing cancer treatment.

No doubt they signed him and he is a Hull player.

A very strange, and another sad, case and a lot of grief for £200k when compared to our £15 million.

Hull signed Macdonald in January 2018, on the 31st to be precise, and he was diagnosed in September 2019. It would seem the poor man has had other medical conditions to manage too.

I'm sure Hull completed a full medical on transfer deadline day!

Two wrongs don't make a right and Hull must be accused of being utterly insensitive to challenge when one of their own players is undergoing cancer treatment.

No doubt they signed him and he is a Hull player.

A very strange, and another sad, case and a lot of grief for £200k when compared to our £15 million.

Agree Whilst not in same bracket as us i just put it out here that contracts can be challenged if situation arises even after being sighned

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.

We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too

yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.

We also sold zohore and Bruno, so money was there.

Hull signed Macdonald in January 2018, on the 31st to be precise, and he was diagnosed in September 2019. It would seem the poor man has had other medical conditions to manage too.

I'm sure Hull completed a full medical on transfer deadline day!

Two wrongs don't make a right and Hull must be accused of being utterly insensitive to challenge when one of their own players is undergoing cancer treatment.

No doubt they signed him and he is a Hull player.

A very strange, and another sad, case and a lot of grief for £200k when compared to our £15 million.

Agree Whilst not in same bracket as us i just put it out here that contracts can be challenged if situation arises even after being sighned

I don't think there is any dispute or differences of opinion that contracts can be challenged. The debate that keeps raising its head is whether that challenge should be made and futher more how that challenge effects our club. And the liklihood of the challenge then being successful with some heavy negatives if we are ultimately told to pay.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.

We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too

yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.

We also sold zohore and Bruno, so money was there.

The money will be there. But it can't be spent twice.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly

think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.

We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too

yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.

We also sold zohore and Bruno, so money was there.

yes and bought players too
Reid leaving freed up money for Pack.

How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.

If he was our player why have fifa said city can appeal to CAS? Could it be that there is uncertainty! Fifa just adjudicated on whether city should pay nante installments not was contracts exchanged and legally binding..... the issue as arisen because faw submitted papers for international clearance to fifa as is practice, anyway we now know that all will be clear after CAS as done its work and they've looked at every aspect of the signing..

Sums it up nicely, Alan

Now that's why you're "stupid", BarryFraud88; because you won't accept (or more likely pretend not to) that City are entitled to appeal in just the same way the any other business and/or individual would

You clearly have a negative agenda and that's as clea/transparent as a newly cleaned window!