BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
dogfound wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.
Bluebina wrote:dogfound wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.
We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
2blue2handle wrote:Surely we had the money to pay for Sala, if the disaster hasn't have happened he would be here and we would be paying for him.
As for CAS we all knew this was going to happen from the off.
pembroke allan wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Surely we had the money to pay for Sala, if the disaster hasn't have happened he would be here and we would be paying for him.
As for CAS we all knew this was going to happen from the off.
We did have money no question about it! but it's an unprecedented event and sure future transfers will look at this when CAS delivers verdict...also i believe hull have refused to pay final instalment on a transfer due to club not being informed of players cancer diagnosis and subsequent unavailability to play for club? So things are not as black and white as people are making out with ameliano..
BarryWelsh88 wrote:He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.
valleyrambill wrote:BarryWelsh88 wrote:He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.
The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.
I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money
dogfound wrote:valleyrambill wrote:BarryWelsh88 wrote:He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.
The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.
I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money
it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...
2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:valleyrambill wrote:BarryWelsh88 wrote:He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.
The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.
I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money
it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...
Even if he wasn't legally our player I don't think that should have stopped any of the tributes, it seems highly likely if he wasn't legally our player he was soon going to be and died on his way to the club, I think the tributes were correct irrespective of legal formalities. Although that's not to say we owe the money.
dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:valleyrambill wrote:BarryWelsh88 wrote:He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.
The club clearly think not why they have gone this far with the appeal, so until this appeal is heard he might not have been our player as it is clear the player didn't want to come to Cardiff and was made too by nantes as they wanted the money the poor kid was happy to stay there but was told to go.
I agree it does put the club in a bad light if they lose the appeal but not until it is lost and the club feel they should fight it after all it is their money
it certainly seemed as if the club thought he was our player at the time. organised tributes, family visits, every news agency calling him a Cardiff player.. a delegation at the funeral and our manager calling him ..his player..
whether we win or lose it just doesn't sit right...
Even if he wasn't legally our player I don't think that should have stopped any of the tributes, it seems highly likely if he wasn't legally our player he was soon going to be and died on his way to the club, I think the tributes were correct irrespective of legal formalities. Although that's not to say we owe the money.
really not sure about that mate.. maybe had the club come out with this straight away.
but it felt, and still does that the appeal was an after thought.
yes we could still have had the tribute , probably toned down , with the club having already said there were issues with registration … that is not what happened..
BarryWelsh88 wrote:He was our player at time of death despite what desperate attempt to prove otherwise we have looked towards... you do not get a 14 day cooling off period when it comes to player transfers. We will not win the appeal so it is just a delaying tactic to pay. And we will not come out of this well.
BarryWelsh88 wrote:How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.
BarryWelsh88 wrote:How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Hull signed Macdonald in January 2018, on the 31st to be precise, and he was diagnosed in September 2019. It would seem the poor man has had other medical conditions to manage too.
I'm sure Hull completed a full medical on transfer deadline day!
Two wrongs don't make a right and Hull must be accused of being utterly insensitive to challenge when one of their own players is undergoing cancer treatment.
No doubt they signed him and he is a Hull player.
A very strange, and another sad, case and a lot of grief for £200k when compared to our £15 million.
dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:dogfound wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.
We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too
yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.
pembroke allan wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Hull signed Macdonald in January 2018, on the 31st to be precise, and he was diagnosed in September 2019. It would seem the poor man has had other medical conditions to manage too.
I'm sure Hull completed a full medical on transfer deadline day!
Two wrongs don't make a right and Hull must be accused of being utterly insensitive to challenge when one of their own players is undergoing cancer treatment.
No doubt they signed him and he is a Hull player.
A very strange, and another sad, case and a lot of grief for £200k when compared to our £15 million.
Agree Whilst not in same bracket as us i just put it out here that contracts can be challenged if situation arises even after being sighned
bluesince62 wrote:dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:dogfound wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.
We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too
yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.
We also sold zohore and Bruno, so money was there.
bluesince62 wrote:dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:dogfound wrote:BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:Not necessarily a bad thing. Means we get a January transfer window and if we have to pay out at least it’s at the start of the season and not halfway so we can plan accordingly
think you could make an argument either way.. but it is what it is..
and will be 10.6 million next spring on the button if we lose , going into our final year of parachute payments...things might be tight.
We'll get the money for Bobby Reid at the end of the season, so Tan can sort it until then, and it sounds like we will ditch some players in January too
yes ,but some of that was spent on Pack the same day.. and some we have had as a loan fee..
what we need is promotion.
We also sold zohore and Bruno, so money was there.
pembroke allan wrote:BarryWelsh88 wrote:How am I being stupid? He was our player. He was announced as our player. For that to be the case there would have been no doubt in our club’s eyes that everything was sealed and delivered. Remember that we weren’t his first choice and that any last minute offer would probably have meant him not coming... the club was clearly in a position that they were ‘safe’ to announce and that this situation was not possible.
If he was our player why have fifa said city can appeal to CAS? Could it be that there is uncertainty! Fifa just adjudicated on whether city should pay nante installments not was contracts exchanged and legally binding..... the issue as arisen because faw submitted papers for international clearance to fifa as is practice, anyway we now know that all will be clear after CAS as done its work and they've looked at every aspect of the signing..
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