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Postby ealing_ayatollah » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:02 pm

There was a decent debate on here a little while back around Greta Thunberg and quite a few people, myself included, questioned the underlying reason behind why she was pushed so prominently.

She recently penned an article on Project Syndicate's website that I think may have given some credence to the argument that 'Climate Justice' is merely a tool being used to usher in a globalist, progressive, authoritarian political movement.

Greta wrote

"After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all."

It's all very similar to how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti admitted the US Green New deal was also nothing about climate change (which it was absolutely initially positioned as being) but more about overhauling the whole economy, i.e. it was about wealth distribution.

The science on climate change is far from settled and the debate is being shut down by highly emotive language and Greta is the Marxist wolf in an environmentalist sheep's clothing.

Nuke's got shot down for comparing the promotion of her as some kind of beacon for the future to Nazi propaganda which also used innocent-looking children. Yet it seems that there is certainly more to her words than a concerned environmentalist.

A phrase "like colonial, racist and patriarchal systems of oppression" is purely progressive ideological rhetoric and has nothing to do with the environmental concerns she rose to prominence championing.

I think the mask might just have slipped and here we are seeing the real reason behind the angry Swedish school girl's push towards global stardom. But then I'm just a tin foil hat wearing monkey with a penchant for fine bananas, so what would I know.

Sources -
Greta's article https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme ... al-2019-11
Saikat Chakrabarti admission on Green New deal - https://news.yahoo.com/aoc-chief-staff- ... 08358.html

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Postby wez1927 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:07 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:There was a decent debate on here a little while back around Greta Thunberg and quite a few people, myself included, questioned the underlying reason behind why she was pushed so prominently.

She recently penned an article on Project Syndicate's website that I think may have given some credence to the argument that 'Climate Justice' is merely a tool being used to usher in a globalist, progressive, authoritarian political movement.

Greta wrote

"After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all."

It's all very similar to how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti admitted the US Green New deal was also nothing about climate change (which it was absolutely initially positioned as being) but more about overhauling the whole economy, i.e. it was about wealth distribution.

The science on climate change is far from settled and the debate is being shut down by highly emotive language and Greta is the Marxist wolf in an environmentalist sheep's clothing.

Nuke's got shot down for comparing the promotion of her as some kind of beacon for the future to Nazi propaganda which also used innocent-looking children. Yet it seems that there is certainly more to her words than a concerned environmentalist.

A phrase "like colonial, racist and patriarchal systems of oppression" is purely progressive ideological rhetoric and has nothing to do with the environmental concerns she rose to prominence championing.

I think the mask might just have slipped and here we are seeing the real reason behind the angry Swedish school girl's push towards global stardom. But then I'm just a tin foil hat wearing monkey with a penchant for fine bananas, so what would I know.

Sources -
Greta's article https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme ... al-2019-11
Saikat Chakrabarti admission on Green New deal - https://news.yahoo.com/aoc-chief-staff- ... 08358.html

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She's a puppet for her left wing eco fascist masters
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Re: OT - Did Greta just let the mask slip?

Postby splottthedog » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:41 pm

How dare she object to our Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression! :old:
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Postby dogfound » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:29 pm

splottthedog wrote:How dare she object to our Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression! :old:



yes she can talk about whatever she wishes. but that's a bit of a jump init...
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Re: OT - Did Greta just let the mask slip?

Postby welshrarebit » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:30 pm

I honestly don't think she "said" that. Obviously in the literal sense she did. But whilst I'm not her number 1 fan I do believe she passionately believes in climate change and hasn't had much mission creep.

The people behind her however .....
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Postby ealing_ayatollah » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:55 pm

splottthedog wrote:How dare she object to our Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression! :old:


A gentle challenge for anyone who wants to take it up...

1.) Name any colonial, racist or patriarchal systems of oppression still in place in 2019
2.) Explain how they have yet to be dismantled and how we should go about doing so
3.) Then explain how any of that will help with climate change

Whoever wins gets a banana and a ton of virtue signalling gold stars.
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Re: OT - Did Greta just let the mask slip?

Postby dogfound » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:17 pm

welshrarebit wrote:I honestly don't think she "said" that. Obviously in the literal sense she did. But whilst I'm not her number 1 fan I do believe she passionately believes in climate change and hasn't had much mission creep.

The people behind her however .....



she probably does passionately believe , but how much of that has come from living with people who passionately believe in climate change plus.
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Postby pembroke allan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:50 pm

Halo definitely slipping? She managed to sail to USA and wants to come back same way! One slight problem no one routinely sails across Atlantic this time year (bit stormy)so at enormous expense and by aeroplane someone is getting uks top sailor to fly to USA to sail her back!! :laughing6: why the fck couldn't she save someone mega bucks and simply fly back on her own after all shes made someone do what she is campaigning against kind of defeats the object of her campaign. .. :o
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Postby C. Rombie-Coat » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:54 pm

Ealing Old Chap,
excellent post.
Watermellons which is what these useful idiots are sometimes called are of course green on the outside and red on the inside.
The whole thing is about money and control.
For anyone interested this is a worth a visit:
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Re: OT - Did Greta just let the mask slip?

Postby pembroke allan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:05 pm

dogfound wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:I honestly don't think she "said" that. Obviously in the literal sense she did. But whilst I'm not her number 1 fan I do believe she passionately believes in climate change and hasn't had much mission creep.

The people behind her however .....



she probably does passionately believe , but how much of that has come from living with people who passionately believe in climate change plus.




Her mother travelled the world before greta put her foot down and stopped her..so hardly climate orientated her mother at least guess father stayed at home... :old:
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Postby C. Rombie-Coat » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:23 pm

As a supplemental , the Governor of the Bank of England (appointed by arch-Globalist tw*t George Osborne) -Mark Carney is heading to the UN as the Climate Envoy to continue with the 'good work' of his fellow Canadian Maurice Strong. They are not 'nice guys.'In fact most of these people are total sociopaths who would rub us out as soon as look at us.

James Matkin, at Academia.edu noted: 'The man who invented climate change was not a scientist, he was rather a big government ideologue and socialist. The Father of Climate Change is Maurice Strong, a Canadian multimillionaire passionate about the environment and the role of the United Nations,not in science but in wealth distribution. As a result Strong skilfully taped on weak climate change science attacking fossil fuels to form the leverage for a new world government.

From the start and continuing today the UN IPCC is ok with the pseudo-science of demonizing life giving CO2 ,which has“nothing to do with the environment” because this is the road to global wealth redistribution. I am not making this up as these are the words of Dr. Ottmar Endenhoffer - leading German scientist and IPCC co-chair.'

Article on said sociopath:

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-maur ... mentalist/
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Postby rumpo kid » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:31 pm

Blow all that..

The big question on everybodys lips is..Is ealing a tin foil monkey wearing a hat, or a monkey wearing a tin foil hat?
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Postby ealing_ayatollah » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:17 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Blow all that..

The big question on everybodys lips is..Is ealing a tin foil monkey wearing a hat, or a monkey wearing a tin foil hat?

Indeed it is quite the conundrum but thanks to my appalling use of grammar, I fear we may never truly know :D
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Postby ealing_ayatollah » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:18 pm

C. Rombie-Coat wrote:As a supplemental , the Governor of the Bank of England (appointed by arch-Globalist tw*t George Osborne) -Mark Carney is heading to the UN as the Climate Envoy to continue with the 'good work' of his fellow Canadian Maurice Strong. They are not 'nice guys.'In fact most of these people are total sociopaths who would rub us out as soon as look at us.

James Matkin, at Academia.edu noted: 'The man who invented climate change was not a scientist, he was rather a big government ideologue and socialist. The Father of Climate Change is Maurice Strong, a Canadian multimillionaire passionate about the environment and the role of the United Nations,not in science but in wealth distribution. As a result Strong skilfully taped on weak climate change science attacking fossil fuels to form the leverage for a new world government.

From the start and continuing today the UN IPCC is ok with the pseudo-science of demonizing life giving CO2 ,which has“nothing to do with the environment” because this is the road to global wealth redistribution. I am not making this up as these are the words of Dr. Ottmar Endenhoffer - leading German scientist and IPCC co-chair.'

Article on said sociopath:

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-maur ... mentalist/

Interesting read that Mr Coat thanks for sharing. :thumbup:
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Postby ElyBoy1984 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:33 pm

C. Rombie-Coat wrote:As a supplemental , the Governor of the Bank of England (appointed by arch-Globalist tw*t George Osborne) -Mark Carney is heading to the UN as the Climate Envoy to continue with the 'good work' of his fellow Canadian Maurice Strong. They are not 'nice guys.'In fact most of these people are total sociopaths who would rub us out as soon as look at us.

James Matkin, at Academia.edu noted: 'The man who invented climate change was not a scientist, he was rather a big government ideologue and socialist. The Father of Climate Change is Maurice Strong, a Canadian multimillionaire passionate about the environment and the role of the United Nations,not in science but in wealth distribution. As a result Strong skilfully taped on weak climate change science attacking fossil fuels to form the leverage for a new world government.

From the start and continuing today the UN IPCC is ok with the pseudo-science of demonizing life giving CO2 ,which has“nothing to do with the environment” because this is the road to global wealth redistribution. I am not making this up as these are the words of Dr. Ottmar Endenhoffer - leading German scientist and IPCC co-chair.'

Article on said sociopath:

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-maur ... mentalist/


Greta Thurnberg's Carbon neutral Yacht was owned by German millionaires who got it from Globalist bankers Rothschilds. All very incestuous.
Jeremy Corbyn's brother (who is a meteorologist) wrote an article rejecting the idea co2 causing the climate emergency. He reckons the science very dodgey and it's partly a tax raising scam with Soros heavily involved.

You can Google the article.
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Postby dogfound » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:47 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:I honestly don't think she "said" that. Obviously in the literal sense she did. But whilst I'm not her number 1 fan I do believe she passionately believes in climate change and hasn't had much mission creep.

The people behind her however .....



she probably does passionately believe , but how much of that has come from living with people who passionately believe in climate change plus.




Her mother travelled the world before greta put her foot down and stopped her..so hardly climate orientated her mother at least guess father stayed at home... :old:



yes this travelling the world while preaching climate change is very popular.. the fact 6 people are flying the atlantic to sail her home shows how much real thought goes into it.
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Postby pembroke allan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:10 pm

dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:I honestly don't think she "said" that. Obviously in the literal sense she did. But whilst I'm not her number 1 fan I do believe she passionately believes in climate change and hasn't had much mission creep.

The people behind her however .....



she probably does passionately believe , but how much of that has come from living with people who passionately believe in climate change plus.




Her mother travelled the world before greta put her foot down and stopped her..so hardly climate orientated her mother at least guess father stayed at home... :old:



yes this travelling the world while preaching climate change is very popular.. the fact 6 people are flying the atlantic to sail her home shows how much real thought goes into it.




And she did it so that she can say look at me I'm not using an aeroplane! :laughing6:
Question is who's paying airfares and the fees these sailors are asking to do the job? Can tell you it's not cheap and wouldn't be surprised if it's more than normal as I said normally sailors avoid Atlantic at this time year... :o
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Postby ElyBoy1984 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:59 pm

Correcting my Earlier post, Piers Corbyn didn't do the article for Brietbart news, but they reported on an interview he did online. Here it is....

Piers Corbyn, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn’s Brexiteer climate-sceptic elder brother, has lambasted Extinction Rebellion as a Soros-funded, EU- and UN-backed scam to transfer money from ordinary people to corporations.

Speaking to YouTube personality and former UKIP candidate Carl ‘Sargon of Akkad’ Benjamin, the physicist, weather forecaster, and former Labour councillor warned viewers that “climate policy is there to control you, not climate”.
“The political origin of [Extinction Rebllion] is the globalist supernationals, the mega-rich. They’re funded by George Soros, among others, he spent 24 million dollars on the group which set up the so-called climate strike,” Corbyn alleged.

“They are orchestrated by the mainstream media and tolerated deliberately by all the governments in the world, just about, bar very few,” he continued.

“If you and I were to have a demonstration about Yemen, the war and arms, and so forth, we would be swept off the street in half an hour, right?” he told Benjamin.


“Or if the miners’ strike had have tried to occupy London like they did, they would have had the horses against them straight away, they’d be swept away — so [Extinction Rebellion] are completely tolerated by the powers that be,” he added.

According to Corbyn, the purpose of the “climate crisis” campaign is to shake down ordinary taxpayers to “give huge amounts of money to large organisations, mega-corporations, to build wind farms, and develop more unnecessary batteries, or whatever. At the same time, there will be handouts to the banks and so forth who are otherwise going to be facing a big economic crisis” — all in the name of “combatting climate change”.

“It’s a way of handing out money to failing businesses in the West who are suffering under China and India’s competitiveness,” he claimed.

“The United Nations talks about redistribution of wealth, but if you look at it, it’s redistribution upwards, absolutely upwards. The more and more the globalists are taking power and influence under the guise of the United Nations and the European Union to redistribute wealth, it’s redistribution upwards,” he said.

He added that “the development of the Third World is being held back by climate policy” — for example, by discouraging the construction of coal-fired power stations which could provide electricity, and leaving women exposed to poisonous fumes from cooking on open fires.

Segueing into the subject of “globalist control and globalist exploitation” more generally, the veteran left-winger added that when it comes to “things like the European Union open borders… Tony Blair doesn’t want open borders to help anybody who’s coming or staying here; he wants open borders to hold down wages in Britain, and the mega-corporations want open borders to destroy the British working class and remove industry from Britain and send it to places where workers can be even more exploited. There’ll be super-exploitation of steelworkers in India or whatever [instead].”

He asserted that “the European Union, United Nations, and the climate change propaganda which we’re being subject to now are all from the same source: globalist mega-corporation world domination.”
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Re: OT - Did Greta just let the mask slip?

Postby JulesK » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:55 am

I sometimes feeel sorry for this young child who has been stuck on the climate pedestal by her parents when they knew she has mental issues ( seems like everyone has these days ) instead of being able to enjoy childhood.

Then when I see her snarling and blaming us older generation I think about all the stuff youngsters use today, don't they know where all the power for their gadgets come from? All the rubbish from fast food places goes? The traveling most do a lot more than we used to? The school run ( think most of us :old: used to walk ( walk !! Is that a swear word :D )?


So I ask myself, Is she just brainwashed or a hypocrite of the highest order.?
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Postby ReesWestonSuperMare » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:32 am

She is 16 years old and has Aspergers syndrome. If you have ever had contact with someone with this condition you will know that there are a couple of traits https://www.autism.org.uk/about/what-is ... gLxV_D_BwE

Basically they think they are the chosen one, very special, always right, hyper intelligent and see things that they think others cant see or understand. There is only one opinion (theirs) . They also think they are extremely gifted and that everyone must listen to what they have to say as it's important etc etc etc.

So I dont doubt she thinks she has our best intentions at heart and she is the poster girl of the campaign etc and it has shed a light on the matter. But she is basically jumping on the band wagon, if she wasnt doing this she would have found another cause to jump on. Good on her though, she has raised awareness - even if her carbon neutral boat trip across the pond was bollow - as they had to fly out a qualified sailor to navigate the boat - so all the carbon saved was spent :banghead:
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Postby JulesK » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:54 am

Rees I believe she also has other issues but that still doesn't get away from the bigger picture of a CHILD being used for unproven science!

We all know the planet is messed up but still nothing is said by the EU about Germany or Poland's coal output and subsidies so will anything be done after the Madrid conference ( which the world's leader mostly FLEW to :roll: )?
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Postby pembroke allan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:47 pm

News make big about sailing to Spain but failed to mention the sailor taking her had to fly to usa to skipper the boat across Atlantic :o
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Postby Jock » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:59 am

Extinction Rebellion was founded by Marxist cranks who diminish the Holocaust, every demo they do attracts the fannies from Moment/SWP.
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Postby dogfound » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:47 pm

JulesK wrote:Rees I believe she also has other issues but that still doesn't get away from the bigger picture of a CHILD being used for unproven science!

We all know the planet is messed up but still nothing is said by the EU about Germany or Poland's coal output and subsidies so will anything be done after the Madrid conference ( which the world's leader mostly FLEW to :roll: )?




you think world leaders shouldn't be flying to conferences ?
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Postby Danny Says » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:14 am

Radio Wales phone in this morning on Jeremy Clarkson’s suggestion she just shut up and go back to school.

Yes she’s a catalyst and there’s more public awareness but she’s frightening the kids to death with her apocalyptic scaremongering
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Postby A Quiet Monkfish » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:26 am

JulesK wrote:I sometimes feeel sorry for this young child who has been stuck on the climate pedestal by her parents when they knew she has mental issues ( seems like everyone has these days ) instead of being able to enjoy childhood.

Then when I see her snarling and blaming us older generation I think about all the stuff youngsters use today, don't they know where all the power for their gadgets come from? All the rubbish from fast food places goes? The traveling most do a lot more than we used to? The school run ( think most of us :old: used to walk ( walk !! Is that a swear word :D )?


So I ask myself, Is she just brainwashed or a hypocrite of the highest order.?


Could be both. One thing is certain - she's the most annoying 16yr old on this planet..
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Postby dogfound » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:43 am

JulesK wrote:I sometimes feeel sorry for this young child who has been stuck on the climate pedestal by her parents when they knew she has mental issues ( seems like everyone has these days ) instead of being able to enjoy childhood.

Then when I see her snarling and blaming us older generation I think about all the stuff youngsters use today, don't they know where all the power for their gadgets come from? All the rubbish from fast food places goes? The traveling most do a lot more than we used to? The school run ( think most of us :old: used to walk ( walk !! Is that a swear word :D )?


So I ask myself, Is she just brainwashed or a hypocrite of the highest order.?



suppose if your brought up in an environment where climate change , being eco friendly etc are big topics ?
my kids ,one by one nagged me to come with me to NP.. enjoyed . result they don't support Man u or Liverpool like many of their friends but instead are passionate about the City.. its not really brainwashing.
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Postby pembroke allan » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:17 pm

The circus is now a well oiled machine with speech writers advisors with travel accommodation ect ect all paid for by companies or individuals with a vestive interest in what shes doing? Or do people believe her parents are funding the circus!
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