Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:42 pm
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:00 pm
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:05 pm
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:12 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Can't argue with that to be honest. I don't see us getting anything against Italy in Rome and Switzerland are an excellent side who are very well organised and don't concede many goals.
Any neutral will look at our group and say it's a battle between Italy and Switzerland to top the group. Turkey are the only team I'm hopeful we can get a result against, but they've also shown they're a good team to qualify.
Let's be honest, we are big underdogs, but that suits us fine.
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:15 pm
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:17 pm
Bluedodo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Can't argue with that to be honest. I don't see us getting anything against Italy in Rome and Switzerland are an excellent side who are very well organised and don't concede many goals.
Any neutral will look at our group and say it's a battle between Italy and Switzerland to top the group. Turkey are the only team I'm hopeful we can get a result against, but they've also shown they're a good team to qualify.
Let's be honest, we are big underdogs, but that suits us fine.
Honestly staggered by your underdogs claim.
We beat Switzerland in the last euros 2 nil.
Turkey are ranked below us and head to head with them we have the better record.
We are unbeaten in 6 competive games and made the semi final of the last euros.
Underdogs? I can tell you now none of our group will relish the idea of playing wales.
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:31 pm
Bluedodo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Can't argue with that to be honest. I don't see us getting anything against Italy in Rome and Switzerland are an excellent side who are very well organised and don't concede many goals.
Any neutral will look at our group and say it's a battle between Italy and Switzerland to top the group. Turkey are the only team I'm hopeful we can get a result against, but they've also shown they're a good team to qualify.
Let's be honest, we are big underdogs, but that suits us fine.
Honestly staggered by your underdogs claim.
We beat Switzerland in the last euros 2 nil.
Turkey are ranked below us and head to head with them we have the better record.
We are unbeaten in 6 competive games and made the semi final of the last euros.
Underdogs? I can tell you now none of our group will relish the idea of playing wales.
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:15 pm
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:40 pm
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:00 pm
Llan_Blue wrote:It won’t be lucky it will be deserved.
BUT some of you are getting wayyyyyyyyyy ahead of yourselves it will be very hard to get out of this group and it’s not very likely.
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:03 pm
Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:02 am
thomasblue wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:It won’t be lucky it will be deserved.
BUT some of you are getting wayyyyyyyyyy ahead of yourselves it will be very hard to get out of this group and it’s not very likely.
Not sure why you think that it's not likely.
I would say it's a toss up between the three teams other than Italy.
There is not much between any of the teans but we probably have the edge with Bale and Ramsey in my opinion.
If we have a fit front 4 of Bale, Ramsey, Brooke's and James we can beat anybody
Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:04 am
Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:08 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:52 pm
Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:54 pm
thomasblue wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:It won’t be lucky it will be deserved.
BUT some of you are getting wayyyyyyyyyy ahead of yourselves it will be very hard to get out of this group and it’s not very likely.
Not sure why you think that it's not likely.
I would say it's a toss up between the three teams other than Italy.
There is not much between any of the teans but we probably have the edge with Bale and Ramsey in my opinion.
If we have a fit front 4 of Bale, Ramsey, Brooke's and James we can beat anybody
Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:51 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:01 pm
dogfound wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
no maps in your house ?
the big cities in Turkey are about as far from Baku as Cardiff is to somewhere like Minsk.
Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:00 pm
Llan_Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
no maps in your house ?
the big cities in Turkey are about as far from Baku as Cardiff is to somewhere like Minsk.
There not even neighboring countries
Hardly a bus trip.
Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:20 pm
thomasblue wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
no maps in your house ?
the big cities in Turkey are about as far from Baku as Cardiff is to somewhere like Minsk.
There not even neighboring countries
Hardly a bus trip.
Just over a thousand miles between Istanbul and Baku
It's people saying we pretty much have a home game playing in portugal.
It's the same distance to Lisbon from Cardiff as it is Istanbul to Baku
Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:00 pm
JJ1927 wrote:thomasblue wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:dogfound wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
no maps in your house ?
the big cities in Turkey are about as far from Baku as Cardiff is to somewhere like Minsk.
There not even neighboring countries
Hardly a bus trip.
Just over a thousand miles between Istanbul and Baku
It's people saying we pretty much have a home game playing in portugal.
It's the same distance to Lisbon from Cardiff as it is Istanbul to Baku
Exactly. And how many Wales fans would go to Lisbon if- as is possible - there was a fair chance of getting a ticket? Given that Turkey has a population almost 30 times that of Wales at 83 million you can multiply that many times over to see the potential for us being very substantially outnumbered. Add in the fact that there are 25,000 Turks living in Azerbaijan, the fact that the counties have very strong cultural and political links - Turkey was the leading supporter of Azerbaijan independence and the first to recognise its independence in 1991 and the Turkish president has called the two countries one nation and its likely that the locals will be fully behind Turkey. The two countries have very close ties. I hope I am wrong but I fear we will be massively outnumbered.
And for the person who questioned whether I had a map, mine shows that part of Azerbaijan - albeit an enclave-does actually share a border with Turkey.
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:49 am
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:26 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Don't have to finish in top two anyway. A good third place will see us qualify. Our problem which few seem to realise yet is that Turkey have been given a massive advantage by playing us in Baku. Wont be far off being a home game for them.
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:24 pm
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:55 pm
RV Casual wrote:It's just the way it goes.
When we played England in Lens I reckon that ground was about 80% England with 20% us in that half bahind the goal and a few on the side, then on the flip of that we pretty much had the run of the ground in Toulouse with the Russians having a small pocket.
Not sure how well the Turks travel but I doubt they will have that many more there than us, in fact I wonder if the ground will even be full going on that europa league final, not sure how much interest the locals will have in it.
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:27 pm
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:43 pm
bluebird04 wrote:Seeing as most on here think we'll have no problem getting through this group, if we don't manage it, will you consider it a failure ?