Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:52 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote::lol:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:05 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:30 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:07 pm
piledriver64 wrote:Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.
Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:08 pm
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:14 pm
piledriver64 wrote:Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.
Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:15 pm
thomasblue wrote:How anybody can vote anything other than labour amazes me.
They are going to wipe out world hunger in one go
Give everybody a high paid job
Give the NHS a few billion quid
Solve climate change
Give everybody free university places
Double people's pensions and let them retire at 30
Give everybody free wifi
Build a million council houses
Lower taxes
Fix the roads
Dont let a little thing like money or how they can afford it get in the way. It will all be fine as the EU will pay for it out of our increased contributions
The real place it will come from is by decommissioning Trident which will leave us vulnerable and defenceless
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:12 am
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:58 am
Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:31 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:More bullshit but it fits an agenda
Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:42 am
Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:05 am
City in Cwmbran wrote:Nah, I’d rather vote for a compulsive liar, who stands for nothing, a racist, play away ‘wife beater’. Preferably one who is backed by billionaire newspaper tycoons who I have strong ties to and fully represent who I am, as a working man earning national average wages.
Oh look, there goes one now. We love you, Boris. Wanker!
Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:17 am
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:58 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote::lol:
Never truer words spoken
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:51 am
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 am
PlasticFantastic wrote:Seems there is only a magic money tree when the tories need it to bail out the banks or fund wars with Syria. It flourishes with available funds.
Bail out the NHS, help the less fortunate and suddenly the magic money tree withers away.
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:51 pm
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:15 pm
Ninianman wrote:Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:31 pm
splottthedog wrote:Ninianman wrote:Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !
Labour supporters consistently put forward reasons for why they vote labour, in this thread, other threads, and in discourse generally.
So what evidence do you have that its because their parents voted labour etc? its just another way of, to repair a phrase, dismissing them out of hand.
Sorry if you find it "baffling" but perhaps consider reading and listening to the ideas put forward instead of making your own, ill informed judgements.
oh and to address your other point. workers will ALWAYS need representation at every level, to suggest otherwise is, at best, woefully naive
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:31 pm
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:38 pm
stickywicket wrote:If Jez had been PM the kid in my local club would still be alive.Joined up sent to War by Blair Killed got a street named after him.
Same with the Falklands the Yanks warned Thatcher the Arggies were on the move.
Working class kids sent to their deaths.
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:52 am
stickywicket wrote:If Jez had been PM the kid in my local club would still be alive.Joined up sent to War by Blair Killed got a street named after him.
Same with the Falklands the Yanks warned Thatcher the Arggies were on the move.
Working class kids sent to their deaths.
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:20 pm
Willlly the Wombat wrote:splottthedog wrote:Ninianman wrote:Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !
Labour supporters consistently put forward reasons for why they vote labour, in this thread, other threads, and in discourse generally.
So what evidence do you have that its because their parents voted labour etc? its just another way of, to repair a phrase, dismissing them out of hand.
Sorry if you find it "baffling" but perhaps consider reading and listening to the ideas put forward instead of making your own, ill informed judgements.
oh and to address your other point. workers will ALWAYS need representation at every level, to suggest otherwise is, at best, woefully naive
Some interesting responses there StD.
This is a genuine question to you with no malice meant whatsoever, are you a young student of, rough guess 14 year old doing whatever O levels are called these days? If so, an interesting and valid response but I'd advise working on your own opinion rather than reading the auto responses from the likes of guardian.
I'll give you a very big clue for future missives on last sentence. Us workers have long given up on representation at any level, that just for socialist latte drinking wealthy children.
The labour party hasn't been a party for the workers for many, many years which in my opinion is a crying shame. It's just a bunch of middle class unemployable aresholes.
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:33 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.
Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.
Mate it’s a question of who’d make the least complete balls up of it between the two. Imho JC is going to potentially make a bigger mess than Boris.
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:34 pm
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:56 pm
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:15 pm
mugsy wrote:I see Johnson is running scared of a one to one interview with Andrew Neil and Jacob Rees Mogg has disappeared off the face of the earth - very much a case of 'where's Wally'! Lol