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Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:52 pm

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Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:46 pm

Forever Blue wrote::lol:

Never truer words spoken :laughing6:

Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:05 pm

Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.

Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:30 pm

For a moment i thought Annis was running for Major of Madrid ;)

Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:07 pm

piledriver64 wrote:Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.

Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.


Ah look.. another money tree has sprouted.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:08 pm

How anybody can vote anything other than labour amazes me.

They are going to wipe out world hunger in one go

Give everybody a high paid job

Give the NHS a few billion quid

Solve climate change

Give everybody free university places

Double people's pensions and let them retire at 30

Give everybody free wifi

Build a million council houses

Lower taxes

Fix the roads

Dont let a little thing like money or how they can afford it get in the way. It will all be fine as the EU will pay for it out of our increased contributions


The real place it will come from is by decommissioning Trident which will leave us vulnerable and defenceless

Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:14 pm

piledriver64 wrote:Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.

Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.

Mate it’s a question of who’d make the least complete balls up of it between the two. Imho JC is going to potentially make a bigger mess than Boris.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:15 pm

thomasblue wrote:How anybody can vote anything other than labour amazes me.

They are going to wipe out world hunger in one go

Give everybody a high paid job

Give the NHS a few billion quid

Solve climate change

Give everybody free university places

Double people's pensions and let them retire at 30

Give everybody free wifi

Build a million council houses

Lower taxes

Fix the roads

Dont let a little thing like money or how they can afford it get in the way. It will all be fine as the EU will pay for it out of our increased contributions


The real place it will come from is by decommissioning Trident which will leave us vulnerable and defenceless


Well said sir!

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:12 am

I see Johnson is running scared of a one to one interview with Andrew Neil and Jacob Rees Mogg has disappeared off the face of the earth - very much a case of 'where's Wally'! Lol

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:58 am

More bullshit but it fits an agenda

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:31 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:More bullshit but it fits an agenda

Your opinion.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:42 am

Nah, I’d rather vote for a compulsive liar, who stands for nothing, a racist, play away ‘wife beater’. Preferably one who is backed by billionaire newspaper tycoons who I have strong ties to and fully represent who I am, as a working man earning national average wages.

Oh look, there goes one now. We love you, Boris. Wanker!

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:05 am

City in Cwmbran wrote:Nah, I’d rather vote for a compulsive liar, who stands for nothing, a racist, play away ‘wife beater’. Preferably one who is backed by billionaire newspaper tycoons who I have strong ties to and fully represent who I am, as a working man earning national average wages.

Oh look, there goes one now. We love you, Boris. Wanker!

Deffo pick him over JB.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:17 am

You COULD NOT have illustrated it any clearer Annis.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:58 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote::lol:

Never truer words spoken :laughing6:



He would have given the chance, the youngsters that love him with free bribes would have still been paying back his borrowing in their 90's, there is no such thing as a free meal (broadband/Uni Fess/Waspi Women and the rest) get free now, pay for the rest of their lives!

Giving Corbyn and McDonell power would be like giving a 19 year old student a credit card with a limit of £200,000!!

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:51 am

Seems there is only a magic money tree when the tories need it to bail out the banks or fund wars with Syria. It flourishes with available funds.

Bail out the NHS, help the less fortunate and suddenly the magic money tree withers away.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 am

PlasticFantastic wrote:Seems there is only a magic money tree when the tories need it to bail out the banks or fund wars with Syria. It flourishes with available funds.

Bail out the NHS, help the less fortunate and suddenly the magic money tree withers away.


dont forget it also appears when we need to bribe a few bigoted DUP MPs or spend 100m on telling the country how great the brexit (they they knew they were voting for??) would be.

but yes, giving care to ober 65s or ensuring people dont starve to death is such a decadent use of our funds

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:51 pm

Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:15 pm

Ninianman wrote:Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !


Labour supporters consistently put forward reasons for why they vote labour, in this thread, other threads, and in discourse generally.

So what evidence do you have that its because their parents voted labour etc? its just another way of, to repair a phrase, dismissing them out of hand.

Sorry if you find it "baffling" but perhaps consider reading and listening to the ideas put forward instead of making your own, ill informed judgements.

oh and to address your other point. workers will ALWAYS need representation at every level, to suggest otherwise is, at best, woefully naive

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:31 pm

splottthedog wrote:
Ninianman wrote:Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !


Labour supporters consistently put forward reasons for why they vote labour, in this thread, other threads, and in discourse generally.

So what evidence do you have that its because their parents voted labour etc? its just another way of, to repair a phrase, dismissing them out of hand.

Sorry if you find it "baffling" but perhaps consider reading and listening to the ideas put forward instead of making your own, ill informed judgements.

oh and to address your other point. workers will ALWAYS need representation at every level, to suggest otherwise is, at best, woefully naive


Some interesting responses there StD.

This is a genuine question to you with no malice meant whatsoever, are you a young student of, rough guess 14 year old doing whatever O levels are called these days? If so, an interesting and valid response but I'd advise working on your own opinion rather than reading the auto responses from the likes of guardian.
I'll give you a very big clue for future missives on last sentence. Us workers have long given up on representation at any level, that just for socialist latte drinking wealthy children.
The labour party hasn't been a party for the workers for many, many years which in my opinion is a crying shame. It's just a bunch of middle class unemployable aresholes.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:31 pm

If Jez had been PM the kid in my local club would still be alive.Joined up sent to War by Blair Killed got a street named after him.
Same with the Falklands the Yanks warned Thatcher the Arggies were on the move.
Working class kids sent to their deaths.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:38 pm

stickywicket wrote:If Jez had been PM the kid in my local club would still be alive.Joined up sent to War by Blair Killed got a street named after him.
Same with the Falklands the Yanks warned Thatcher the Arggies were on the move.
Working class kids sent to their deaths.

My father in law is in a care home.He went in with £33K in the bank.
They have took the f*cking lot.
All whats left is his funeral money.
DON'T GET OLD.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:52 am

stickywicket wrote:If Jez had been PM the kid in my local club would still be alive.Joined up sent to War by Blair Killed got a street named after him.
Same with the Falklands the Yanks warned Thatcher the Arggies were on the move.
Working class kids sent to their deaths.


When you join up, all possibilities are made clear to you. Ironically, the military can’t stand Corbyn because he’s seen as a fifth columnist. And that’s putting it politely.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:20 pm

Willlly the Wombat wrote:
splottthedog wrote:
Ninianman wrote:Do people still vote on the basis of -
My dad and his dad before him all voted Labour,so that’s what I’m going to do.
Don’t get me wrong,having a political party for the masses in the 30s & 40s etc probably was the right thing,but that party has long since lost it’s way.
What baffles me as well is if one party suggests one thing the other party suggests the opposite,why can’t a leader say “that’s a really good idea,but I think we can improve on it”,but no it’s dismissed off hand,baffling !


Labour supporters consistently put forward reasons for why they vote labour, in this thread, other threads, and in discourse generally.

So what evidence do you have that its because their parents voted labour etc? its just another way of, to repair a phrase, dismissing them out of hand.

Sorry if you find it "baffling" but perhaps consider reading and listening to the ideas put forward instead of making your own, ill informed judgements.

oh and to address your other point. workers will ALWAYS need representation at every level, to suggest otherwise is, at best, woefully naive


Some interesting responses there StD.

This is a genuine question to you with no malice meant whatsoever, are you a young student of, rough guess 14 year old doing whatever O levels are called these days? If so, an interesting and valid response but I'd advise working on your own opinion rather than reading the auto responses from the likes of guardian.
I'll give you a very big clue for future missives on last sentence. Us workers have long given up on representation at any level, that just for socialist latte drinking wealthy children.
The labour party hasn't been a party for the workers for many, many years which in my opinion is a crying shame. It's just a bunch of middle class unemployable aresholes.


hi willy, thanks for your malice-less question.

if you must know, im 33 years old and was a union rep for 10 years (in a union that didnt give money to labour...before you ask or infer)

and quite honestly, having seen our union help literally tens of thousands of workers secure better pay and conditions i am happy to tell you that you couldn't be more wrong. The reason it is hard for workers to organise is literally BECAUSE of this government (see: TU act 2015)

Re: Vote me and I promise

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:33 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Tories sums don’t add up either according to independent assessments.

Therefore I’d rather go with Labour who may actually target the borrowed money at the people who need it most.

Mate it’s a question of who’d make the least complete balls up of it between the two. Imho JC is going to potentially make a bigger mess than Boris.


Really !!?? On what grounds would you make that assumption ?

We have Boris who already has a proven track record of lying or Corbyn who has been open about borrowing and spending.

The fiscal frugality of the Tories has resulted in the need for rapid and significant investment across NHS, Justice, local authorities, etc.

The Tories idea of getting police numbers back up to where they were in 2011 and increasing nurse numbers by 50000 (including 19000 already working for NHS !!) just isn't going to catch up the last 8/9 years of neglect.

I agree that Corbyn isn't an ideal Prime Minister (even though I like the manifesto in general), however, if you counter that by saying Boris is Prime Ministerial then I will just p^$$ myself laughing :roll: :lol: Scary times if you ask me.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:34 pm

I don't know why Labour don't go the whole hog and announce free public transport for all, abolish income tax and VAT, free petrol, free alcohol and ciggies, reduce the working week to one day a week. No more far fetched than what's already been announced, although it will come as a shock to them when they realise this will have to be paid for. I suppose they could do it, call an election after a year with the country bankrupt, and just leave a note saying there is no money.

Re: Vote me and I promise

Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:56 pm

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Re: Vote me and I promise

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:15 pm

mugsy wrote:I see Johnson is running scared of a one to one interview with Andrew Neil and Jacob Rees Mogg has disappeared off the face of the earth - very much a case of 'where's Wally'! Lol

You forgot to mention all the shadow parties remainer front benchers
Kier starmer being the most invicable