OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Why do the BBC fill a studio full of (young) anti conservatives, and show such disrespect to the Prime Minister and put in largely red herrings and questions which just do not address the real issues in this election?

Why won’t the BBC allow the PM to promote his manifesto and when he talks sense on Brexit and the economy he’s shouted down and interrupted. (Except for one last moment thankfully)

Boris Johnson should be applauded for not rising to such inflammatory and largely irrelevant hysterical outbursts.

Fiona Bruce has been appalling and atypical of the BBC; the average age of this leftist audience is such an imbalance of the nation.

Woe betide the electorate at large take notice of this absolute anti Tory propaganda.

The BBC have never forgiven the Tories for precipitating Brexit. The BBC are so left wing it’s cringing and unwittingly therefore are promoting a Marxist revolution which would ruin the country which would be ruinous.

The audience was full of lefty plants who made life easy for Corbyn.
Scotland voted 55%-45% to remain in the U.K. but the seven Scots who asked “questions “ of Sturgeon were all Seperatist Natz scum, not one Unionist. Fiona Bruce struggles to hide her disgust at Johnson and is far from impartial.

The BBC has not been impartial for many years. That's why I didn't even bother to watch last night's programme. I stopped watching the BBC news years back for the same reason. The annoying thing is that I have to pay for the nonsense this channel continually spouts. If the BBC want to act like The Daily Mirror or The Sun or any other newspaper that are unashamedly biased in their views, they should not receive public funding to do so. About time they were forced to stand on their own feet.

Steve I’ve not paid the licence for 15 years but my telly still works, don’t even feel guilty when I watch Blue Planet

Have to say o just watched the Question Time debate and Corbyn was given a relatively easy time in comparison to Boris

'Plants' in the audience?

I don't know but I do think it's what this country's media are becoming...judge, jury and executioner

only see JC and Sturgeon...she was ok but predictable.. didn't think he did very well mate.. according to a couple of pple on here Borris was worse ?

Didn't think either of the 'Big Two' did particularly well, tbh

However, I did feel that Corbyn was spoon-fed some questions he could easily answer without answering and get away with it (if that makes sense) and Boris was 'targeted' in a seemingly deliberate way

Corbyn's "I'll remain neutral even though I slated the EU before I realised I could further my own career" claims should truly worry us, as it means he is 'happy' to sit on the fence and see which way any new decision goes (I thought we decided in 2016?) before making a decision. He said he wouldn't even back his own (should it happen) Brexit deal

Boris actually batted off a few inane questions quite well and, IMHO, finished his time the better and more robust of the two with his "We need to move on..." comments

As for the other two?

Sturgeon usually speaks well in her field (Scotland) but I've long thought the Liberal lady would cost her Party seats with her superior demeanour and 'changed' views and I didn't see anything that changed my view

Going to be interesting times ahead, as the signals are for another 'hung' Parliament and that will be good for no one other than those who wish to block progress

Still neither. The Plaid Cymru manifesto puts Wales and its future first, with English Conservatives and English Labour, Wales is an afterthought.

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Thought it was Welsh Labour who were in power in Wales.

Women have had their pension age moved to 66.That's £168 x 52 x6 =£52416 yes thats right £52416 .Men have lost £8736.Get Brexit done LOL
I'm laughing I'm 67 /I get my state pension and company pension.Keep working lads and pay your N.I stamp so I can live in comfort.
Don't forget GET BREXIT DONE
p. s. None of the main parties have offered a solution

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Thought it was Welsh Labour who were in power in Wales.

The term Welsh Labour is a massive contradiction......it's an English party

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Thought it was Welsh Labour who were in power in Wales.

The term Welsh Labour is a massive contradiction......it's an English party

welsh speakers only..

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Thought it was Welsh Labour who were in power in Wales.

The term Welsh Labour is a massive contradiction......it's an English party

I thought they were a British party.

Women have had their pension age moved to 66.That's £168 x 52 x6 =£52416 yes thats right £52416 .Men have lost £8736.Get Brexit done LOL
I'm laughing I'm 67 /I get my state pension and company pension.Keep working lads and pay your N.I stamp so I can live in comfort.
Don't forget GET BREXIT DONE
p. s. None of the main parties have offered a solution

Bully for you... :

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Nah.. it’s just that Plaid are a bunch of fruitcakes.

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Nah.. it’s just that Plaid are a bunch of fruitcakes.

I suppose your attempt of trying to participate in any meaningful discussion speaks volumes for your total lack of knowledge, ignorance and gullibility.....Nice one

Women have had their pension age moved to 66.That's £168 x 52 x6 =£52416 yes thats right £52416 .Men have lost £8736.Get Brexit done LOL
I'm laughing I'm 67 /I get my state pension and company pension.Keep working lads and pay your N.I stamp so I can live in comfort.
Don't forget GET BREXIT DONE
p. s. None of the main parties have offered a solution

get Brexit done yea ok.....it's never ever going to happen EVER

That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Nah.. it’s just that Plaid are a bunch of fruitcakes.

I suppose your attempt of trying to participate in any meaningful discussion speaks volumes for your total lack of knowledge, ignorance and gullibility.....Nice one [/quot

I like Ivor the Engine... doesn’t that count for something.

" This Country "

Saw this on social media last week.

Plaid Cymru's general election campaign November (2019)

Cymru Am Byth??????

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That’s why they tend to come last in many constituencies ..

The usual type of response from those brainwashed into voting for the English nationalist parties....

Nah.. it’s just that Plaid are a bunch of fruitcakes.

I suppose your attempt of trying to participate in any meaningful discussion speaks volumes for your total lack of knowledge, ignorance and gullibility.....Nice one

You ducked every question I asked you so it’s a bit rich you slabbering about meaningful discussion. You remind me of the Scots Natz freedumb at any price, end evil English rule but it’s ok to be subservient to the Frogs and the Krauts.

Make of this what you will - but here is the BBC reporting on that post and the person in it (I think)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50453053

"Plaid Cymru has suspended a party member included in its party election broadcast over allegations of anti-Semitism.

The party said it will conduct an investigation into historical social media comments made by Sahar Al-Faifi.

Ms Al-Faifi appeared in Plaid Cymru's party political broadcast for the general election, which aired on BBC Wales, ITV Wales and S4C on Thursday.

The party said it will not tolerate anti-Semitism or racism "in any form".

Ms Al-Faifa has been asked to comment on the posts, which were deleted some time ago.

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In the broadcast, she said: "Activists, it's us," in a reference to Plaid's slogan for the election campaign: "Wales, it's us."

Since the party election broadcast, Sahar Al-Faifi has been accused on social media of making anti-Semitic Facebook and Twitter comments between 2012 and 2014.

Plaid Cymru said: "We have taken immediate action to suspend the person in question. We will investigate all allegations.

"Plaid Cymru will not tolerate anti-Semitism, racism or intolerance in any form. That includes the appalling abuse the individual has been subject to. It is not a part of the Wales we want to build."

She has also appeared on broadcasts for BBC Wales discussing her faith."

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

And you expected plaid to mention Wales less than any other party?

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

And you expected plaid to mention Wales less than any other party? [/quote]
It's a bit like asking the SNP's Ian Blackman whether he mentions 'Scotland' at every opportunity (often regardless of the question being asked)

"We in Scotland..." is his staple answer!

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

this is the same bunch that think you can charge the English 5 grand per household per year for water...
so my guess is limited vocabulary.

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

You’ll always find it hard...Nationalists usually end up disappointed in others refusal to embrace their limited horizon.

Plaid literally have Wales in their name. Of course it is said more!!!

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

You’ll always find it hard...Nationalists usually end up disappointed in others refusal to embrace their limited horizon.

Think hard! Who has the limited horizon my friend? You want to keep the Welsh living as second class citizens in their own country, living off handouts from our colonial masters, living with limited powers unable to take our place as an independent nation amongst the other nations of the world. You obviously believe Westminster knows what's best for little old Wales, that we are too small, too stupid and too poor to stand up for ourselves. Now that's what I call a limited horizon.
Why not open your eyes, widen your horizon and picture Wales joining all the other free nations of the world. The world is our oyster!
p.s I suppose it's England for you in the Euros, it certainly follows a theme

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

I bet you would find it just as hard to believe that we don't all have an in built hatred of England. Many of us (the majority if elections are anything to go by), consider ourselves to be British as well as Welsh. I certainly won't be wasting my vote on an irrelevant party who will probably get around 150k votes throughout Wales from the 2.25m people eligible to vote.

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

I bet you would find it just as hard to believe that we don't all have an in built hatred of England. Many of us (the majority if elections are anything to go by), consider ourselves to be British as well as Welsh. I certainly won't be wasting my vote on an irrelevant party who will probably get around 150k votes throughout Wales from the 2.25m people eligible to vote.

You are probably correct regarding the voting intentions. Plaid simply can't compete with the coverage that the big parties get and this will probable once again been seen in the results. Although, I do forsee an increase in our MPs.
I don't have any problem with England and certainly no hatred. My problem is with Westminster. Wales will once again in this election get a government it didn't vote for.
As for being 'British' name me one 'British' tradition? I think you'll find that Britain = England

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

I bet you would find it just as hard to believe that we don't all have an in built hatred of England. Many of us (the majority if elections are anything to go by), consider ourselves to be British as well as Welsh. I certainly won't be wasting my vote on an irrelevant party who will probably get around 150k votes throughout Wales from the 2.25m people eligible to vote.

You are probably correct regarding the voting intentions. Plaid simply can't compete with the coverage that the big parties get and this will probable once again been seen in the results. Although, I do forsee an increase in our MPs.
I don't have any problem with England and certainly no hatred. My problem is with Westminster. Wales will once again in this election get a government it didn't vote for.
As for being 'British' name me one 'British' tradition? I think you'll find that Britain = England

I'm quite grateful being part of the UK. Being retired, I find my bus pass a great help, and health problems mean my free prescriptions come in very useful. Without the help of the English taxpayers, I doubt if this assistance would be available. With less than 1.5m people employed in Wales, many in low paid jobs, these sort of services would be very difficult to maintain with the tax revenue raised this side of the bridge. Things are far from perfect I agree, but would be far worse if we were not part of a "United" Kingdom.

I find it hard to believe that many of the posters on here consider themselves Welsh. But just in case, here’s some stats regarding the different parties manifestos and their mention of Wales in them.
@Plaid_Cymru: 232
@LibDems: 22
@UKLabour: 16
@Conservatives: 15
@TheGreenParty: 15
@brexitparty_uk: 0
You can take from this what you want, but Wales is no more than an afterthought for the London based parties.

You’ll always find it hard...Nationalists usually end up disappointed in others refusal to embrace their limited horizon.

Think hard! Who has the limited horizon my friend? You want to keep the Welsh living as second class citizens in their own country, living off handouts from our colonial masters, living with limited powers unable to take our place as an independent nation amongst the other nations of the world. You obviously believe Westminster knows what's best for little old Wales, that we are too small, too stupid and too poor to stand up for ourselves. Now that's what I call a limited horizon.
Why not open your eyes, widen your horizon and picture Wales joining all the other free nations of the world. The world is our oyster!
p.s I suppose it's England for you in the Euros, it certainly follows a theme

Er, I’m English born..but unlike you and the other bigot on here, I bear no ill will to other UK countries and it’s peoples.

Even when they specialise in handball.