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Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:55 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
epping blue wrote:
theclaw wrote:I won’t be voting as I wasted my time voting on the Brexit referendum.Ten minutes of my life down the drain.
Still waiting for candidates to knock my door so I can tell them.



Brexit will still happen if we elect a conservative government. As it happens I have had my MP on the door step.

Is that the same conservatives who have been in charge for the entirety of the brexit negotiations? Or is that the same conservatives who could've 'delivered' brexit but rejected Mays deal (including phalafel Johnson) to only now have her deal but surrendering on every positive?
Or is it the same conservatives who won't even work out the cost of their brexit deal because they don't care about you, only their money?

Or do you have thing for being Russia's plaything and want to add to a near decade of poverty and austerity by having nearly half a decade more of it just to get through brexit that will have.... More job losses and poverty before getting F'd by America in a trade deal? Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Mays deal kept us in the Customs Union, just as the one Corbyn is proposing would, so it was not what 17.5m voted for.
I asked you previously which Corbyn you preferred, the one who promised to smash the EU which he called a bankers Europe that harms the socialist cause. Or the new Jezza that wants to give us a choice between staying in the EU or staying in the EU with no voting rights?

Apologies for forgetting to reply last time.
If he's changed his mind then I'm fine with that. If he hasn't but has decided that the best thing for labour/the country is to ask whether we want to stay with clear options (as you can't say all 17.5 million people wanted to leave the customs union) then I'm fine with that. Even farage has gone from wanting a Norway style deal to no deal to wanting a second referendum so if he can't make up his mind then I'm not going to slate someone for changing there's or deciding to do what's best for his party.
Plus he hasn't negotiated anything so I can't read too much into his plans


Not sure why the 17.5m people who voted to leave would expect us to remain in the customs union. The leaflet sent to every household in the UK stated what would happen and the fact there would be no access to the single market. We all had access to the information clearly presented to us by the government who hoped and expected a comfortable win for the remain camp. It should be remembered that the leaflet sent to all of us stated nothing other than a doom and gloom scenario if we voted in favour of Brexit. They only managed to fool less than half those who voted.

But that leaflet was dismissed as fake news so....
And a leaflet isn't law is it?


It wasn't dismissed as fake news in the run up to the referendum. Just so happened that enough people were not taken in by it when it came to voting.. Just as well as all the predictions of doom and gloom as to the outcome just by us voting to leave have still not come to fruition more than three years after the event. As I have said on here in the past, still waiting for that emergency budget to save our economy, the one that would be needed within weeks of a leave vote.

You do know that the government isn't ruling out an emergency budget so maybe you're a bit premature there.
Sadly enough people were taken in by the leave lies... No downsides? No job losses? Brexit dividends? Turkey's immediate joining? No hard border?



How long do we wait for emergency budget to happen 3yrs and counting? As for Turkey joining if you are saying emergency budget isn't ruled out by same token Turkey joining EU cannot be ruled out? :thumbup: as for hard border well considering Brexit has not happened maybe that will or won't happen in next 3 yrs or so just have to wait and see :old:

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:57 pm

I was aware when I voted leave.. and whatever comes along will he faced.

Constantly whining about Brexit is getting tiresome, specifically because you haven’t a clue what will happen in the future. About time people started believing in Britain again, not slagging it off all the time. It’s a great place to live.

The guy whinging about Tory cuts.. once again, Liam Byrne left a note saying Labour had bankrupted Britain again.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:00 pm

dogfound wrote:Corbyn seems to want to turn the clock back to the day before Maggie took office...

its like he thinks he can :occasion5: go back and fix all the things that were wrong by doing them again..

That is exactly what I’m thinking

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:23 pm

Why do the BBC fill a studio full of (young) anti conservatives, and show such disrespect to the Prime Minister and put in largely red herrings and questions which just do not address the real issues in this election?

Why won’t the BBC allow the PM to promote his manifesto and when he talks sense on Brexit and the economy he’s shouted down and interrupted. (Except for one last moment thankfully)

Boris Johnson should be applauded for not rising to such inflammatory and largely irrelevant hysterical outbursts.

Fiona Bruce has been appalling and atypical of the BBC; the average age of this leftist audience is such an imbalance of the nation.

Woe betide the electorate at large take notice of this absolute anti Tory propaganda.

The BBC have never forgiven the Tories for precipitating Brexit. The BBC are so left wing it’s cringing and unwittingly therefore are promoting a Marxist revolution which would ruin the country which would be ruinous.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:31 pm

theclaw wrote:I won’t be voting as I wasted my time voting on the Brexit referendum.Ten minutes of my life down the drain.
Still waiting for candidates to knock my door so I can tell them.


People were sent to 2 world wars to protect our freedom + right to vote and you've got the nerve to say you "wasted" 10 minutes of your life.

Most disgraceful comment on the internet I've seen for a while. Reads like a Trump tweet.

If you were joking I apologize, but it doesn't come across as funny.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:35 pm

Danny Says wrote:Why do the BBC fill a studio full of (young) anti conservatives, and show such disrespect to the Prime Minister and put in largely red herrings and questions which just do not address the real issues in this election?

Why won’t the BBC allow the PM to promote his manifesto and when he talks sense on Brexit and the economy he’s shouted down and interrupted. (Except for one last moment thankfully)

Boris Johnson should be applauded for not rising to such inflammatory and largely irrelevant hysterical outbursts.

Fiona Bruce has been appalling and atypical of the BBC; the average age of this leftist audience is such an imbalance of the nation.

Woe betide the electorate at large take notice of this absolute anti Tory propaganda.

The BBC have never forgiven the Tories for precipitating Brexit. The BBC are so left wing it’s cringing and unwittingly therefore are promoting a Marxist revolution which would ruin the country which would be ruinous.


All leaders got a tough time.

It's how each leader handled it, and Boris was terrible.

I'd be lying if I said seeing all the Tories crying about it hasn't been a pleasing side effect.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:36 pm

in the wider social media world I've not seen one hateful post about labour supporters and voters. Sure. Seen many that vehemently disagree with them and I count myself as one of them.

But the bile and vitriol spewed against conservative supporters is insane. Cunts. Scum. Bastards. Selfish fucks.
To people voting conservative from valley areas .... Scummy class sell outs
Many of these comments come from people I've often thought of as friends.
Is this really how these people think their viewpoints will be accepted and embraced? By abusing people??

Also. I find it hilarious that I see many telling all of us we should be happy to pay more and more tax ... Yet they are the first ones asking on Facebook for tax advise on reducing their tax burden. Can't make it up.

Oh. Churchill first adopted the NHS as mainstream government policy!!!!!!!

Sorry. I'm slightly irritated this evening!
Last edited by welshrarebit on Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:37 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
epping blue wrote:
theclaw wrote:I won’t be voting as I wasted my time voting on the Brexit referendum.Ten minutes of my life down the drain.
Still waiting for candidates to knock my door so I can tell them.



Brexit will still happen if we elect a conservative government. As it happens I have had my MP on the door step.

Is that the same conservatives who have been in charge for the entirety of the brexit negotiations? Or is that the same conservatives who could've 'delivered' brexit but rejected Mays deal (including phalafel Johnson) to only now have her deal but surrendering on every positive?
Or is it the same conservatives who won't even work out the cost of their brexit deal because they don't care about you, only their money?

Or do you have thing for being Russia's plaything and want to add to a near decade of poverty and austerity by having nearly half a decade more of it just to get through brexit that will have.... More job losses and poverty before getting F'd by America in a trade deal? Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Mays deal kept us in the Customs Union, just as the one Corbyn is proposing would, so it was not what 17.5m voted for.
I asked you previously which Corbyn you preferred, the one who promised to smash the EU which he called a bankers Europe that harms the socialist cause. Or the new Jezza that wants to give us a choice between staying in the EU or staying in the EU with no voting rights?

Apologies for forgetting to reply last time.
If he's changed his mind then I'm fine with that. If he hasn't but has decided that the best thing for labour/the country is to ask whether we want to stay with clear options (as you can't say all 17.5 million people wanted to leave the customs union) then I'm fine with that. Even farage has gone from wanting a Norway style deal to no deal to wanting a second referendum so if he can't make up his mind then I'm not going to slate someone for changing there's or deciding to do what's best for his party.
Plus he hasn't negotiated anything so I can't read too much into his plans


Not sure why the 17.5m people who voted to leave would expect us to remain in the customs union. The leaflet sent to every household in the UK stated what would happen and the fact there would be no access to the single market. We all had access to the information clearly presented to us by the government who hoped and expected a comfortable win for the remain camp. It should be remembered that the leaflet sent to all of us stated nothing other than a doom and gloom scenario if we voted in favour of Brexit. They only managed to fool less than half those who voted.

But that leaflet was dismissed as fake news so....
And a leaflet isn't law is it?


It wasn't dismissed as fake news in the run up to the referendum. Just so happened that enough people were not taken in by it when it came to voting.. Just as well as all the predictions of doom and gloom as to the outcome just by us voting to leave have still not come to fruition more than three years after the event. As I have said on here in the past, still waiting for that emergency budget to save our economy, the one that would be needed within weeks of a leave vote.

You do know that the government isn't ruling out an emergency budget so maybe you're a bit premature there.
Sadly enough people were taken in by the leave lies... No downsides? No job losses? Brexit dividends? Turkey's immediate joining? No hard border?


I think the emergency budget was forecast for three weeks not three years. The stock market didn't crash either, unemployment did not soar, and the economy did not fall off the edge of a cliff. All this was supposed to happen just by voting leave, and would happen very quickly. Who did you say lied?

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:52 pm

And for those that keep saying the conservatives hate the NHS

https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011 ... -not-exist

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:53 pm

welshrarebit wrote:in the wider social media world I've not seen one hateful post about labour supporters and voters. Sure. Seen many that vehemently disagree with them and I count myself as one of them.

But the bile and vitriol spewed against conservative supporters is insane. Cunts. Scum. Bastards. Selfish fucks.
To people voting conservative from valley areas .... Scummy class sell outs
Many of these comments come from people I've often thought of as friends.
Is this really how these people think their viewpoints will be accepted and embraced? By abusing people??

Also. I find it hilarious that I see many telling all of us we should be happy to pay more and more tax ... Yet they are the first ones asking on Facebook for tax advise on reducing their tax burden. Can't make it up.

Oh. Churchill first adopted the NHS as mainstream government policy!!!!!!!

Sorry. I'm slightly irritated this evening!


Why apologise?

Labour supporters who are moderate I can take (but disagree with them) but the hypocrites who blindly support this Labour under Corbyn without understanding the Marxist ideology or who do but glibly ignore it hoping it won’t come to fruition, make my blood boil.

Surely the electorate won’t fall for this?

BTW BJ was superb tonight not rising to the BBC left wing under 30 audience under the spell of one of their champagne socialist commentators and getting his point across when permitted at the end

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:53 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
epping blue wrote:
theclaw wrote:I won’t be voting as I wasted my time voting on the Brexit referendum.Ten minutes of my life down the drain.
Still waiting for candidates to knock my door so I can tell them.



Brexit will still happen if we elect a conservative government. As it happens I have had my MP on the door step.

Is that the same conservatives who have been in charge for the entirety of the brexit negotiations? Or is that the same conservatives who could've 'delivered' brexit but rejected Mays deal (including phalafel Johnson) to only now have her deal but surrendering on every positive?
Or is it the same conservatives who won't even work out the cost of their brexit deal because they don't care about you, only their money?

Or do you have thing for being Russia's plaything and want to add to a near decade of poverty and austerity by having nearly half a decade more of it just to get through brexit that will have.... More job losses and poverty before getting F'd by America in a trade deal? Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Mays deal kept us in the Customs Union, just as the one Corbyn is proposing would, so it was not what 17.5m voted for.
I asked you previously which Corbyn you preferred, the one who promised to smash the EU which he called a bankers Europe that harms the socialist cause. Or the new Jezza that wants to give us a choice between staying in the EU or staying in the EU with no voting rights?

Apologies for forgetting to reply last time.
If he's changed his mind then I'm fine with that. If he hasn't but has decided that the best thing for labour/the country is to ask whether we want to stay with clear options (as you can't say all 17.5 million people wanted to leave the customs union) then I'm fine with that. Even farage has gone from wanting a Norway style deal to no deal to wanting a second referendum so if he can't make up his mind then I'm not going to slate someone for changing there's or deciding to do what's best for his party.
Plus he hasn't negotiated anything so I can't read too much into his plans


Not sure why the 17.5m people who voted to leave would expect us to remain in the customs union. The leaflet sent to every household in the UK stated what would happen and the fact there would be no access to the single market. We all had access to the information clearly presented to us by the government who hoped and expected a comfortable win for the remain camp. It should be remembered that the leaflet sent to all of us stated nothing other than a doom and gloom scenario if we voted in favour of Brexit. They only managed to fool less than half those who voted.

But that leaflet was dismissed as fake news so....
And a leaflet isn't law is it?


LOL!!!

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:02 pm

Danny Says wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:in the wider social media world I've not seen one hateful post about labour supporters and voters. Sure. Seen many that vehemently disagree with them and I count myself as one of them.

But the bile and vitriol spewed against conservative supporters is insane. Cunts. Scum. Bastards. Selfish fucks.
To people voting conservative from valley areas .... Scummy class sell outs
Many of these comments come from people I've often thought of as friends.
Is this really how these people think their viewpoints will be accepted and embraced? By abusing people??

Also. I find it hilarious that I see many telling all of us we should be happy to pay more and more tax ... Yet they are the first ones asking on Facebook for tax advise on reducing their tax burden. Can't make it up.

Oh. Churchill first adopted the NHS as mainstream government policy!!!!!!!

Sorry. I'm slightly irritated this evening!


Why apologise?

Labour supporters who are moderate I can take (but disagree with them) but the hypocrites who blindly support this Labour under Corbyn without understanding the Marxist ideology or who do but glibly ignore it hoping it won’t come to fruition, make my blood boil.

Surely the electorate won’t fall for this?

BTW BJ was superb tonight not rising to the BBC left wing under 30 audience under the spell of one of their champagne socialist commentators and getting his point across when permitted at the end


I'm starting to go off Boris, mainly due to his terrible Brexit deal and ambivilance over mass immigration, i read the other day that our tax burden is the highest since the 1970s, so, he's not really Conservative to me.
He was given a hard time by the audience tonight though. I wonder which BBC employee hand picked a crowd of millenial activists...

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:11 pm

I'd blame may and Hammond for the tax rather than Boris. I'd be prepared to give him a chance to.balls things up before blaming him for things others did.
If Corbyn isn't allowed to be blamed for what labour did under Blair then Boris should have the same courtesy

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:13 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:in the wider social media world I've not seen one hateful post about labour supporters and voters. Sure. Seen many that vehemently disagree with them and I count myself as one of them.

But the bile and vitriol spewed against conservative supporters is insane. Cunts. Scum. Bastards. Selfish fucks.
To people voting conservative from valley areas .... Scummy class sell outs
Many of these comments come from people I've often thought of as friends.
Is this really how these people think their viewpoints will be accepted and embraced? By abusing people??

Also. I find it hilarious that I see many telling all of us we should be happy to pay more and more tax ... Yet they are the first ones asking on Facebook for tax advise on reducing their tax burden. Can't make it up.

Oh. Churchill first adopted the NHS as mainstream government policy!!!!!!!

Sorry. I'm slightly irritated this evening!


Why apologise?

Labour supporters who are moderate I can take (but disagree with them) but the hypocrites who blindly support this Labour under Corbyn without understanding the Marxist ideology or who do but glibly ignore it hoping it won’t come to fruition, make my blood boil.

Surely the electorate won’t fall for this?

BTW BJ was superb tonight not rising to the BBC left wing under 30 audience under the spell of one of their champagne socialist commentators and getting his point across when permitted at the end


I'm starting to go off Boris, mainly due to his terrible Brexit deal and ambivilance over mass immigration, i read the other day that our tax burden is the highest since the 1970s, so, he's not really Conservative to me.
He was given a hard time by the audience tonight though. I wonder which BBC employee hand picked a crowd of millenial activists...


BJ was magnificent tonight in the face of a hostile BBC hand picked group of millennium socialists.

Given your name if a dog was standing as the socialist candidate in your area, it’d get elected.

BTW Your info re tax is wrong and probably from the Daily Mirror.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:33 pm

welshrarebit wrote:I'd blame may and Hammond for the tax rather than Boris. I'd be prepared to give him a chance to.balls things up before blaming him for things others did.
If Corbyn isn't allowed to be blamed for what labour did under Blair then Boris should have the same courtesy


Boris is pledging to spend loads and hardly touch tax...He's looking more like a Tory version of Blair to me...Part of me wants Corbyn to get in, i'm no fan of Marxism but There will be 3 positives of Corbyn.

1) He will challenge global bankers who own our democracy and caused mass casualties in the 2 world wars, they will probably react to Corbyn as PM by bullying Britain into economic submission, in doing so will exspose who they are, and how much we are enslaved to them.

2) Corbyn's Marxism will be the short sharp shock the youngsters need. It won't be pretty but will lance the marxist boyle for a good 30 years. The alternative is trundling along into globalism & marxism-lite for 20 years under corporate puppets like Boris.

3) Corbyn will exspose just how much Isreal influences American foriegn policy and as a consequence. Our foriegn policy.

I find it a sad reflection on our democracy that mass immigration is a high priority to voters but those in control side line the issue almost completely. I'm fed up of the whole system.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:46 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:I'd blame may and Hammond for the tax rather than Boris. I'd be prepared to give him a chance to.balls things up before blaming him for things others did.
If Corbyn isn't allowed to be blamed for what labour did under Blair then Boris should have the same courtesy


Boris is pledging to spend loads and hardly touch tax...He's looking more like a Tory version of Blair to me...Part of me wants Corbyn to get in, i'm no fan of Marxism but There will be 3 positives of Corbyn.

1) He will challenge global bankers who own our democracy and caused mass casualties in the 2 world wars, they will probably react to Corbyn as PM by bullying Britain into economic submission, in doing so will exspose who they are, and how much we are enslaved to them.

2) Corbyn's Marxism will be the short sharp shock the youngsters need. It won't be pretty but will lance the marxist boyle for a good 30 years. The alternative is trundling along into globalism & marxism-lite for 20 years under corporate puppets like Boris.

3) Corbyn will exspose just how much Isreal influences American foriegn policy and as a consequence. Our foriegn policy.

I find it a sad reflection on our democracy that mass immigration is a high priority to voters but those in control side line the issue almost completely. I'm fed up of the whole system.


Corbyn would decimate this country.

Your 3 points are crassly naive.

Thankfully the electorate as a whole aren’t that BBC hand picked bunch of leftist agitators.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:47 pm

Danny Says wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:in the wider social media world I've not seen one hateful post about labour supporters and voters. Sure. Seen many that vehemently disagree with them and I count myself as one of them.

But the bile and vitriol spewed against conservative supporters is insane. Cunts. Scum. Bastards. Selfish fucks.
To people voting conservative from valley areas .... Scummy class sell outs
Many of these comments come from people I've often thought of as friends.
Is this really how these people think their viewpoints will be accepted and embraced? By abusing people??

Also. I find it hilarious that I see many telling all of us we should be happy to pay more and more tax ... Yet they are the first ones asking on Facebook for tax advise on reducing their tax burden. Can't make it up.

Oh. Churchill first adopted the NHS as mainstream government policy!!!!!!!

Sorry. I'm slightly irritated this evening!


Why apologise?

Labour supporters who are moderate I can take (but disagree with them) but the hypocrites who blindly support this Labour under Corbyn without understanding the Marxist ideology or who do but glibly ignore it hoping it won’t come to fruition, make my blood boil.

Surely the electorate won’t fall for this?

BTW BJ was superb tonight not rising to the BBC left wing under 30 audience under the spell of one of their champagne socialist commentators and getting his point across when permitted at the end


I'm starting to go off Boris, mainly due to his terrible Brexit deal and ambivilance over mass immigration, i read the other day that our tax burden is the highest since the 1970s, so, he's not really Conservative to me.
He was given a hard time by the audience tonight though. I wonder which BBC employee hand picked a crowd of millenial activists...


BJ was magnificent tonight in the face of a hostile BBC hand picked group of millennium socialists.

Given your name if a dog was standing as the socialist candidate in your area, it’d get elected.

BTW Your info re tax is wrong and probably from the Daily Mirror.


I'm not from Ely but you are right, Cardiff West is a very safe Labour seat, as a result the MP (Kevin Brennen) votes in parliament without a care in the world, his voting record on parliament issues are a joke, he loves spending tax payers money on replacing British tax payers with immigrants on top benefits. I'm pretty sure he didn't vote against Blairs globalist oil raid on Iraq either...

I only seen the current claims on tax burden in passing, so i wouldn't argue with you...do you know the current tax burden compared to 1970?

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:50 pm

How anyone can vote for Corbyn and Labour defies all logic .
Save the NHS is his biggest card yet he wants to open the borders for free movement. The NHS is already creaking with the strain , how will it cope then?
No Trident - could be a disaster .
Terrorist sympathiser - I personally can’t stomach that.
He has always picked the wrong side .
Dianne Abbott as Home Secretary- God help us
Making the rich poorer doesn’t make the poor richer. The rich will go elsewhere.
Which one am I likely to go for a pint with . Boris for me.
Boris is clumsy but Corbyn is dangerous.
If you vote for Corbyn you seriously need to give your head a wobble .
Free dental checks
Free broadband
Tax this tax that

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:55 pm

Danny Says wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:I'd blame may and Hammond for the tax rather than Boris. I'd be prepared to give him a chance to.balls things up before blaming him for things others did.
If Corbyn isn't allowed to be blamed for what labour did under Blair then Boris should have the same courtesy


Boris is pledging to spend loads and hardly touch tax...He's looking more like a Tory version of Blair to me...Part of me wants Corbyn to get in, i'm no fan of Marxism but There will be 3 positives of Corbyn.

1) He will challenge global bankers who own our democracy and caused mass casualties in the 2 world wars, they will probably react to Corbyn as PM by bullying Britain into economic submission, in doing so will exspose who they are, and how much we are enslaved to them.

2) Corbyn's Marxism will be the short sharp shock the youngsters need. It won't be pretty but will lance the marxist boyle for a good 30 years. The alternative is trundling along into globalism & marxism-lite for 20 years under corporate puppets like Boris.

3) Corbyn will exspose just how much Isreal influences American foriegn policy and as a consequence. Our foriegn policy.

I find it a sad reflection on our democracy that mass immigration is a high priority to voters but those in control side line the issue almost completely. I'm fed up of the whole system.


Corbyn would decimate this country.

Your 3 points are crassly naive.

Thankfully the electorate as a whole aren’t that BBC hand picked bunch of leftist agitators.


I did say Corbyn wouldn't be pretty but we are slowly heading towards a form of Marxism anyway. The centre ground has moved so far left since 97... Corbyn would be madness but as a reaction we'll switch fully Conservative in 5 years time. In doing so, the long term future may be healthier...

What of my points do you find crassly naive...

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:16 pm

I have never read such drivel in my life - where do you get your evidence or ideas from ? Shit for brains

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:19 pm

No need for that....Evidence for what?

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:23 am

Have to say o just watched the Question Time debate and Corbyn was given a relatively easy time in comparison to Boris

'Plants' in the audience? :?

I don't know but I do think it's what this country's media are becoming...judge, jury and executioner :cry:

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:43 am

Sven wrote:Have to say o just watched the Question Time debate and Corbyn was given a relatively easy time in comparison to Boris

'Plants' in the audience? :?

I don't know but I do think it's what this country's media are becoming...judge, jury and executioner :cry:



only see JC and Sturgeon...she was ok but predictable.. didn't think he did very well mate.. according to a couple of pple on here Borris was worse ?

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:38 am

theclaw wrote:I won’t be voting as I wasted my time voting on the Brexit referendum.Ten minutes of my life down the drain.
Still waiting for candidates to knock my door so I can tell them.


Exactly what I've been saying. Our votes don't count because some b*stard will want to jack boot all over it. I've had it, I'll take what comes.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:16 am

Anyone who votes Tory in Wales is f*cking deluded... They are the party of London bankers and global, elitists. Funded by rich Russians (much like a number of football clubs). Who love nothing more that seeing working populations putting them in power. Modern slave masters.

If you are happy being a slave, vote Tory.

I will be voting for a real change. Socialism gifted us the NHS. Socialism will save it. Anything else is a copout

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:31 am

Proving my earlier point

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:16 am

PlasticFantastic wrote:Anyone who votes Tory in Wales is f*cking deluded... They are the party of London bankers and global, elitists. Funded by rich Russians (much like a number of football clubs). Who love nothing more that seeing working populations putting them in power. Modern slave masters.

If you are happy being a slave, vote Tory.

I will be voting for a real change. Socialism gifted us the NHS. Socialism will save it. Anything else is a copout


Hardly anyone votes Tory in Wales. That's why Wales has been run by the Labour Party since the National Assembly came into being.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:19 am

Danny Says wrote:Why do the BBC fill a studio full of (young) anti conservatives, and show such disrespect to the Prime Minister and put in largely red herrings and questions which just do not address the real issues in this election?

Why won’t the BBC allow the PM to promote his manifesto and when he talks sense on Brexit and the economy he’s shouted down and interrupted. (Except for one last moment thankfully)

Boris Johnson should be applauded for not rising to such inflammatory and largely irrelevant hysterical outbursts.

Fiona Bruce has been appalling and atypical of the BBC; the average age of this leftist audience is such an imbalance of the nation.

Woe betide the electorate at large take notice of this absolute anti Tory propaganda.

The BBC have never forgiven the Tories for precipitating Brexit. The BBC are so left wing it’s cringing and unwittingly therefore are promoting a Marxist revolution which would ruin the country which would be ruinous.

The audience was full of lefty plants who made life easy for Corbyn.
Scotland voted 55%-45% to remain in the U.K. but the seven Scots who asked “questions “ of Sturgeon were all Seperatist Natz scum, not one Unionist. Fiona Bruce struggles to hide her disgust at Johnson and is far from impartial.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:31 am

Sausages wrote:
theclaw wrote:I won’t be voting as I wasted my time voting on the Brexit referendum.Ten minutes of my life down the drain.
Still waiting for candidates to knock my door so I can tell them.


People were sent to 2 world wars to protect our freedom + right to vote and you've got the nerve to say you "wasted" 10 minutes of your life.

Most disgraceful comment on the internet I've seen for a while. Reads like a Trump tweet.

If you were joking I apologize, but it doesn't come across as funny.

I get exactly where he coming from, people gave everything for Liberty and democracy in this country, what for? The country voted to leave the EU and that’s simply been ignored, in truth what’s the point of voting anymore.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:33 am

Jock wrote:
Danny Says wrote:Why do the BBC fill a studio full of (young) anti conservatives, and show such disrespect to the Prime Minister and put in largely red herrings and questions which just do not address the real issues in this election?

Why won’t the BBC allow the PM to promote his manifesto and when he talks sense on Brexit and the economy he’s shouted down and interrupted. (Except for one last moment thankfully)

Boris Johnson should be applauded for not rising to such inflammatory and largely irrelevant hysterical outbursts.

Fiona Bruce has been appalling and atypical of the BBC; the average age of this leftist audience is such an imbalance of the nation.

Woe betide the electorate at large take notice of this absolute anti Tory propaganda.

The BBC have never forgiven the Tories for precipitating Brexit. The BBC are so left wing it’s cringing and unwittingly therefore are promoting a Marxist revolution which would ruin the country which would be ruinous.

The audience was full of lefty plants who made life easy for Corbyn.
Scotland voted 55%-45% to remain in the U.K. but the seven Scots who asked “questions “ of Sturgeon were all Seperatist Natz scum, not one Unionist. Fiona Bruce struggles to hide her disgust at Johnson and is far from impartial.


The BBC has not been impartial for many years. That's why I didn't even bother to watch last night's programme. I stopped watching the BBC news years back for the same reason. The annoying thing is that I have to pay for the nonsense this channel continually spouts. If the BBC want to act like The Daily Mirror or The Sun or any other newspaper that are unashamedly biased in their views, they should not receive public funding to do so. About time they were forced to stand on their own feet.