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Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:29 pm

No i`m not Josh bless him..I have my own viewpoint on society and i`m not prepared to follow the pack..

Vote Labour for a better fairer future..

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:36 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:No i`m not Josh bless him..I have my own viewpoint on society and i`m not prepared to follow the pack..

Vote Labour for a better fairer future..


But Socialism is all about following the pack. Group Think.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:31 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:No i`m not Josh bless him..I have my own viewpoint on society and i`m not prepared to follow the pack..

Vote Labour for a better fairer future..


Better and fairer :roll:

Listen, following a new Marxist economic, social and international set of policies can only lead to economic damage, and social and international collapse endangering the nation. Such catastrophic policies would cause an unprecedented brain drain and remove so much wealth from the country which would be counterintuitive.

Do you really want the banks to close, the City to collapse and wealth creators to be taxed to within an inch of their lives?

Marxist Corbyn would totally ruin the economy; his liberal ideals are just illusory. He would steal 10% of the shares of listed companies, which coupled with his blanket nationalisation of industry would result in economic nationalism and grand larceny of peoples pensions and shares they bought.

You know, Corbyn still cannot believe he is in the position he is. he was voted in by the Labour party as a sort of protest and still to this day is there because no Labourites have the guts to get rid of him; yet the moderate socialists who are standing for Labour under this neo Marxist banner go along with it as a selfish act of self preservation- hypocrites the lot of them.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:14 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Rock the Casbah wrote:No i`m not Josh bless him..I have my own viewpoint on society and i`m not prepared to follow the pack..

Vote Labour for a better fairer future..


But Socialism is all about following the pack. Group Think.

Yet strangely most of the Corbynistas I know are middle class and employed in the public sector or academia.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:17 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:No i`m not Josh bless him..I have my own viewpoint on society and i`m not prepared to follow the pack..

Vote Labour for a better fairer future..

Meaningless sound bites seems to be all you offer.Corbyn and McDonnell’s plan to reduce private rents was implemented before, in 1930s Germany by the Socialist who was running the show at the time. It ended quite badly.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:28 pm

This is why Labour's plan for a massive extension of employment rights and bargaining power is so important for millions of workers.
We know that there are so many people in our workplaces who have such little power, so little voice, and what we are saying, is we would facilitate a system whereby those people would have much more voice through their trade union representative, and that we would uplift the minimum rate of pay to eradicate in-work poverty, because there are millions of people who are currently working their guts out, and not able to afford the rent at the end of the month.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:32 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:This is why Labour's plan for a massive extension of employment rights and bargaining power is so important for millions of workers.
We know that there are so many people in our workplaces who have such little power, so little voice, and what we are saying, is we would facilitate a system whereby those people would have much more voice through their trade union representative, and that we would uplift the minimum rate of pay to eradicate in-work poverty, because there are millions of people who are currently working their guts out, and not able to afford the rent at the end of the month.


Remember the bin strikes do you :roll:

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:37 pm

There are 14.3 million people in poverty in the UK, 9 million of which live in households where one or more person works.
The richest 1% of people in the UK owns the same wealth as 80% of the population (53 million people).
We have an NHS in crisis and under threat from free trade deals. Labour want to talk about solutions.
Labour want to talk about real change.
Labour want to talk about our plans to empower workers and change the workplace.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:45 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:This is why Labour's plan for a massive extension of employment rights and bargaining power is so important for millions of workers.
We know that there are so many people in our workplaces who have such little power, so little voice, and what we are saying, is we would facilitate a system whereby those people would have much more voice through their trade union representative, and that we would uplift the minimum rate of pay to eradicate in-work poverty, because there are millions of people who are currently working their guts out, and not able to afford the rent at the end of the month.


Those people in the workplaces with such little power will not be in a workplace for long if Corbyn gets in. Once he starts taxing the big corporations, they are not going to just pay up and carry on as normal. To maintain their profitability they will have two choices, increase their prices or lay off workers. Many companies will do both, and it won't be long before we see inflation shooting up, and unemployment doing the same. Those lucky enough to stay in employment will see their pension funds raided as the country tries to avoid going bust. I doubt that it will take Corbyn & Co long to take the country to the verge of bankruptcy.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:11 pm

The richest few are pouring money into the Conservative Party this election because they don’t want any change – the system is working just fine for them. But for millions of people, the workplace is dangerous, exploitative and dehumanising.

To fight back, we need to give workers the confidence and the tools to speak out. That means developing a plan to organise workers across workplaces, so that trade unions become a key part of a healthy employment relationship. We want democracy in the workplace so that having a say at work becomes part and parcel of your working life.

Our transformative programme for workers will give people real power, respect and dignity at work, benefiting the thousands of good employers and changing the culture of work entirely. That’s real change.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:27 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:The richest few are pouring money into the Conservative Party this election because they don’t want any change – the system is working just fine for them. But for millions of people, the workplace is dangerous, exploitative and dehumanising.

To fight back, we need to give workers the confidence and the tools to speak out. That means developing a plan to organise workers across workplaces, so that trade unions become a key part of a healthy employment relationship. We want democracy in the workplace so that having a say at work becomes part and parcel of your working life.

Our transformative programme for workers will give people real power, respect and dignity at work, benefiting the thousands of good employers and changing the culture of work entirely. That’s real change.


You’ve been indoctrinated by left wing fantasy. This may be apposite for Bolivia but not the UK

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:30 pm

“get Brexit Done” is total lies as we will either come out with no deal next December or it will take years to get through 740 different rules before we have a deal. Corbyn will negotiate a deal which won’t effect people’s livelihoods or rights plus the option to remain. This method would avoid all the catastrophic, costly damage which will happen under the Tories. Brexit certainly won’t be done.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:40 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:The richest few are pouring money into the Conservative Party this election because they don’t want any change – the system is working just fine for them. But for millions of people, the workplace is dangerous, exploitative and dehumanising.

To fight back, we need to give workers the confidence and the tools to speak out. That means developing a plan to organise workers across workplaces, so that trade unions become a key part of a healthy employment relationship. We want democracy in the workplace so that having a say at work becomes part and parcel of your working life.

Our transformative programme for workers will give people real power, respect and dignity at work, benefiting the thousands of good employers and changing the culture of work entirely. That’s real change.


You’ve been indoctrinated by left wing fantasy. This may be apposite for Bolivia but not the UK

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:46 pm

If anybody is going to stab you in the back it will be Boris Johnson. Unless you are a billionaire he won’t give a flying fig about you, once he’s got your vote. The only person Johnson cares about is himself and his elite friends.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:59 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:If anybody is going to stab you in the back it will be Boris Johnson. Unless you are a billionaire he won’t give a flying fig about you, once he’s got your vote. The only person Johnson cares about is himself and his elite friends.


I’m very comfortable with voting for the conservatives who have the only realistic policies for a modern civilised country.

Your comments are simply banal and fatuous.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:02 pm

It's a general election, the clues in the word, general. It's not only about brexit.
If you're okay with the 172% rise in homeless, 1000% rise in foodbanks, 15,000 less hospital beds, 21,000 less police on our streets a shortage of 34,000 nurses, 10,000 doctors, then you crack on.
As far as brexit is concerned, why is a 2nd, better informed referendum so scary to you? Maybe it's the fact they've had 73 polls done on it this year and 12 came out evens, 70 remain and only 1 for leave?

Vote Labour for a better fairer future

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:10 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:It's a general election, the clues in the word, general. It's not only about brexit.
If you're okay with the 172% rise in homeless, 1000% rise in foodbanks, 15,000 less hospital beds, 21,000 less police on our streets a shortage of 34,000 nurses, 10,000 doctors, then you crack on.
As far as brexit is concerned, why is a 2nd, better informed referendum so scary to you? Maybe it's the fact they've had 73 polls done on it this year and 12 came out evens, 70 remain and only 1 for leave?

Vote Labour for a better fairer future




You do that its a free world for time being! :thumbup:

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:13 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:“get Brexit Done” is total lies as we will either come out with no deal next December or it will take years to get through 740 different rules before we have a deal. Corbyn will negotiate a deal which won’t effect people’s livelihoods or rights plus the option to remain. This method would avoid all the catastrophic, costly damage which will happen under the Tories. Brexit certainly won’t be done.



Corbyn will negotiate a deal for staying in EU! Spot the difference vote remain or vote corbyns deal with staying in EU customs union as part of deal? Can you spot the difference? :laughing6:

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:58 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:It's a general election, the clues in the word, general. It's not only about brexit.
If you're okay with the 172% rise in homeless, 1000% rise in foodbanks, 15,000 less hospital beds, 21,000 less police on our streets a shortage of 34,000 nurses, 10,000 doctors, then you crack on.
As far as brexit is concerned, why is a 2nd, better informed referendum so scary to you? Maybe it's the fact they've had 73 polls done on it this year and 12 came out evens, 70 remain and only 1 for leave?

Vote Labour for a better fairer future

The electorate for the referendum was sufficiently informed.

If you didn’t like the result then respect those who voted to leave.

Was there a hysterical obstructive outburst by the narrow minority who lost out in the Devolution referendum? No because democracy governs our country.

There’s enough in the Brexit deal to pacify the soft minority.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:07 pm

The Labour party is not Communist, it is Socialist. They are worlds apart and the right wing press has been trying to confuse the two and scaremonger the public for some time. Austerity doesn't just seem to have unfair bias towards the rich, as you say, it IS unfair bias towards the rich.
This will continue if the Tories are elected again, the rich have got far richer over the last 9 years and the poor have got poorer, with millions living in poverty, unable to feed their children. The inequality in our society is shameful. The Labour party aims to support business in it's manifesto, creating jobs and opportunities, providing training and education, so that more people can have Access to unemployment, creating more wealth for the country to share, with people accessing good public services and having a decent home to live in at a fair rent. This is socialism.
For the last 9 years the Tories have run down and cut public services savagely, eroded workers rights and conditions, and through their greed above all else, taken all for themselves. And managed to triple our national debt at the same time. Austerity has not paid anything off our national debt so where has all the money gone? Public money has gone into private pockets, a deliberate government policy, transferring tax payers money to their own businesses. Of course you won't read any of this in the Tory right wing press. They are just happy that people are swallowing their scaremongering and propaganda.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:12 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:The Labour party is not Communist, it is Socialist. They are worlds apart and the right wing press has been trying to confuse the two and scaremonger the public for some time. Austerity doesn't just seem to have unfair bias towards the rich, as you say, it IS unfair bias towards the rich.
This will continue if the Tories are elected again, the rich have got far richer over the last 9 years and the poor have got poorer, with millions living in poverty, unable to feed their children. The inequality in our society is shameful. The Labour party aims to support business in it's manifesto, creating jobs and opportunities, providing training and education, so that more people can have Access to unemployment, creating more wealth for the country to share, with people accessing good public services and having a decent home to live in at a fair rent. This is socialism.
For the last 9 years the Tories have run down and cut public services savagely, eroded workers rights and conditions, and through their greed above all else, taken all for themselves. And managed to triple our national debt at the same time. Austerity has not paid anything off our national debt so where has all the money gone? Public money has gone into private pockets, a deliberate government policy, transferring tax payers money to their own businesses. Of course you won't read any of this in the Tory right wing press. They are just happy that people are swallowing their scaremongering and propaganda.


You’ve been brainwashed by Leader Corbyn’s propaganda.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:14 pm

Mmm.. another sixth form Jemima has appeared.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:18 pm

Just post something crass as you have nothing else to say...lol

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:28 pm

Yes, but I did it in one sentence.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:56 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Yes, but I did it in one sentence.



Hes another one who thinks sun shines out of Corbyn's arse! Wonder if they are all the same people? :laughing5:

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:58 pm

No i dont i`m just not a mug like you!!! lol

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:10 pm

Rock the Casbah wrote:No i dont i`m just not a mug like you!!! lol



Your the f*cking mug if you think this country has any chance of funding of a fraction of the cost commitments made by Corbyn and his gang.

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:13 pm

How are you going to find the money to pay for all your medical care when we've no NHS thanks to the Boris and Trump?? Dumb feck..

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:23 pm

Even worse.. one of those annoying elbow patch types who posts lol at the end of their own utterances...lol

Re: OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:27 pm

Your pathetic go away you have nothing to say of any value!...