OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

Fair play to Johnson to refuse to be emotionally blackmailed into being interviewed by that egoistic obese Scot. He has no obligation to. He’s been interviewed by Marr and done several tv debates.

Another one tomorrow; more cringing garbage and fantasy to come from Corbyn.

When Diane Abbott becomes Home Secretary in a few weeks, you'll be done for "hate speech" against???....*shuffles cards*....the obese SCOTS!!!!

When Corbyn and Abbott get in to power, everyone can retire. No need to work if you don't have to have money, and none of us will need money as everything will be free apparently.

That's pretty much right; the feckless will have a field day with those two in charge!

So, what have the Tories ever done for us? Nothing, apparently....real wages have been stagnant over the last decade. Yep, that's right, you're still poorer than you were under Labour 10 years ago. Things can change. Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

So, what have the Tories ever done for us? Nothing, apparently....real wages have been stagnant over the last decade. Yep, that's right, you're still poorer than you were under Labour 10 years ago. Things can change. Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

The last 10 years were due to the 10 years BEFORE that. Labour spent and borrowed, Gordon Brown(Labour) egged the debt bubble on by claiming to have ended the economic cycle of boom and bust.

Socialism has never worked, even the once heralded socialist utopia of Sweden is now a social mess with 10% of Swedes on anti depressants. And now some draconian laws on freedom of speech. Government control is a slippery slope into Communism. This is the thing with Socialism, you can vote your way into it. History says you have fight your way out. We seem to never learn from history though. Why? History is written by the victors...

One in Five workers cannot cover the cost of living..Labour will ban zero hour contracts, introduce a right to a regular contract with minimum hours & make sure everybody in employment gets a living wage & the same rights at work - no matter how old you are or who you work for.
Workers who earn less than the Real Living Wage are - by definition - unable to cover the basic cost of living. So why are Labour the only major party willing to legislate to make sure everyone gets a living wage?

One in Five workers cannot cover the cost of living..Labour will ban zero hour contracts, introduce a right to a regular contract with minimum hours & make sure everybody in employment gets a living wage & the same rights at work - no matter how old you are or who you work for.
Workers who earn less than the Real Living Wage are - by definition - unable to cover the basic cost of living. So why are Labour the only major party willing to legislate to make sure everyone gets a living wage?

How are people living if they can't cover the cost of living?

I'm no economist and what do they know anyway,But if you ban zero hour contracts and introduce a living wage. The cost of living will go up and Unemployment will rise. Is that a price worth paying for you?

1 in 9 workers have no guaranteed wage...Whenever anyone brings up the employment numbers, remember that one hour of work a week = one job. But how can you say the lives of workers on zero hour contracts or in the gig economy are better off in work, if they never know how much they'll make by the end of the month?

1 in 9 workers have no guaranteed wage...Whenever anyone brings up the employment numbers, remember that one hour of work a week = one job. But how can you say the lives of workers on zero hour contracts or in the gig economy are better off in work, if they never know how much they'll make by the end of the month?

a self employed plumber has no guaranteed wage but you never see a poor one!

60% of people in poverty live in a household where at least one person works...UK workers haven't seen a pay rise for a decade & yet living costs go up and up. It’s disgusting that 9 million people in working households now live in poverty. Labour will make sure wages pay for the cost of living & will stop landlords hiking rents to unaffordable prices.

60% of people in poverty live in a household where at least one person works...UK workers haven't seen a pay rise for a decade & yet living costs go up and up. It’s disgusting that 9 million people in working households now live in poverty. Labour will make sure wages pay for the cost of living & will stop landlords hiking rents to unaffordable prices.

Rent prices rise with demand, so either stop mass immigration or cover Britain in concrete with a house building programme.

I grew up in a bad area. I'm yet to meet someone living in poverty, who wasn't ...

a) mentally ill

b) a drug addict

socialism exacerbates mental illness if Sweden is any measure.

60% of people in poverty live in a household where at least one person works...

Yet you want policies that may increase unemployment and raise the cost of living...

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55% of homeless families have jobs but cant afford rent....Children are living in homeless hostels because their working parents can't earn enough. We're the 5th largest economy in the world & we can do better than this. Labour will make sure everybody is paid a living wage.

So, what have the Tories ever done for us? Nothing, apparently....real wages have been stagnant over the last decade. Yep, that's right, you're still poorer than you were under Labour 10 years ago. Things can change. Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

Wales always votes Labour. Education is terrible, NHS in Wales is used as an example of how bad things can get, ambulances regularly miss their targets, etc. etc. Labour has run Wales since the Assembly was formed, and as I said somewhere yesterday, however much we complain, we will vote for the same party again and again and expect different results.

The big question, we will all have to ask ourselves is, can I afford private health insurance for myself and my family. Vote Labour to protect our National Health Service.

55% of homeless families have jobs but cant afford rent....Children are living in homeless hostels because their working parents can't earn enough. We're the 5th largest economy in the world & we can do better than this. Labour will make sure everybody is paid a living wage.

The housing situation is bad and caused by mass immigration. We are one of the most densely populated countries in Europe, theoretically we barely have enough farm land to adequately sustain ourselves with food should the global trade be disrupted. It would be short sighted madness if we start concreting over farmland to house millions of economic migrants.

So mad infact that Labour would probably do it in a heartbeat

The big question, we will all have to ask ourselves is, can I afford private health insurance for myself and my family. Vote Labour to protect our National Health Service.

Most Americans I know think our system is useless. Pay into something throughout your life and then live in agony for years waiting for a routine operation. In an emergency you may reach the hospital eventually, but then spend a day or more on a trolley in a corridor, and if you are lucky get onto a ward before you reach your expiry date. Not sure why anybody would want access to our struggling health system.

The big question, we will all have to ask ourselves is, can I afford private health insurance for myself and my family. Vote Labour to protect our National Health Service.

Oh come on, pull the other one.

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Keep Labour in Wales. They will waste plenty more of our money, the M4 relief road being a perfect example. £120m squandered there, including £44m on a public enquiry that recommended it be built. At least they weren't suckered into throwing our money at that Circuit of Wales fantasy. No doubt they will find another way of wasting millions more when they are re-elected.

When people talk about privatisation in the NHS, it's often in the future tense, so a free trade deal with Trump is a threat for example. But that's not the whole picture: in fact, as NHS campaigners have revealed again and again, US healthcare companies have been 'planting seeds' in our NHS for some time. So the question isn't just about how we stop Boris Johnson and Donald Trump from opening up the NHS to US firms, but how to reinstate our NHS based on the founding principles, without the market, without profit, but a purely need-driven health service. There should be no place for profit out of pain.

The mad thing is, Mainstream Conservatives are socialist-lite in historical terms. So if Conservatives have shifted to the left. Where are the new left? and where is this all going? Neo Communism?

55% of homeless families have jobs but cant afford rent....Children are living in homeless hostels because their working parents can't earn enough. We're the 5th largest economy in the world & we can do better than this. Labour will make sure everybody is paid a living wage.

The housing situation is bad and caused by mass immigration. We are one of the most densely populated countries in Europe, theoretically we barely have enough farm land to adequately sustain ourselves with food should the global trade be disrupted. It would be short sighted madness if we start concreting over farmland to house millions of economic migrants.

So mad infact that Labour would probably do it in a heartbeat

Correction, so mad that Labour are actually pledging to do it.

The Torys are about creating a society where there is no support network or compassion or social responsibility, where there is no expectation of help. Because if they don't help sick or disabled people, they don't have to help anyone.

The Torys are about creating a society where there is no support network or compassion or social responsibility, where there is no expectation of help. Because if they don't help sick or disabled people, they don't have to help anyone.

This backs the thesis that Socialism is Christianty without Christ.

We all have the religious impulse, like it or not. Now the MSM has derided religion for decades there's a moral vacuum. Where is your religious impulse directed? Socialism...you want government to play god and became a moral arbiter. Which is insanity

The Torys are about creating a society where there is no support network or compassion or social responsibility, where there is no expectation of help. Because if they don't help sick or disabled people, they don't have to help anyone.

This backs the thesis that Socialism is Christianty without Christ.

We all have the religious impulse, like it or not. Now the MSM has derided religion for decades there's a moral vacuum. Where is your religious impulse directed? Socialism...you want government to play god and became a moral arbiter. Which is insanity

When i say the MSM has derided religion, i meant Christianity, especially Catholicism. It's respectful to other faiths. Which is yet another odd inconsistency in modern Britain.

Meanwhile, inequality is rife. In 1998, FTSE 100 CEOs earned 47 times as much as the average worker, but in the last 20 years their pay has exploded, while the rest of us have been left behind. It’s now 133 times as much. When do the workers of the UK see a share?

Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

Meanwhile, inequality is rife. In 1998, FTSE 100 CEOs earned 47 times as much as the average worker, but in the last 20 years their pay has exploded, while the rest of us have been left behind. It’s now 133 times as much. When do the workers of the UK see a share?

Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

youre just copy and pasting this from somewhere arent you

Meanwhile, inequality is rife. In 1998, FTSE 100 CEOs earned 47 times as much as the average worker, but in the last 20 years their pay has exploded, while the rest of us have been left behind. It’s now 133 times as much. When do the workers of the UK see a share?

Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

youre just copy and pasting this from somewhere arent you

The hallmark of JOSHCCFC lol

You know it makes sense...Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

Go on laugh...its the pack mentality of this site to do so ..

Meanwhile, inequality is rife. In 1998, FTSE 100 CEOs earned 47 times as much as the average worker, but in the last 20 years their pay has exploded, while the rest of us have been left behind. It’s now 133 times as much. When do the workers of the UK see a share?

Vote Labour for a better, fairer future.

Inequality is human nature. Don't meddle with nature Josh.

Go on laugh...its the pack mentality of this site to do so ..

I'm not laughing mate. I share your concern with regard the moral vacuum, but completely disagree with your solution.
are you josh then?