OT POLL: BORIS OR CORBYN AT THIS POINT?

fair play to Josh for making a 8 pager out of him being a complete idiot.

So are you going to be the one to justify all of Johnsons lies or explain why America wanting a no deal brexit because we'll be weaker is good for us?
Or are you another one who's all talk and no substance?

bit rich for you to talk about all talk and no substance.

what does what america want regarding brexit have anything to do with anything?

Add that to the tally of ignoring my questions.
Do you really need me to tell you why what type of brexit America wants is relevant to a post brexit trade deal involving us and them?

Hopefully this works but it shows what is being talked about
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50572502

Hopefully Josh reads it and comments because it doesnt mention sellingofg nhs

I'm sorry but doggy will get upset that you're copy and pasting something.
Let's put money where your mouth is, I'll give you (or whoever else wants to take up the offer) £100 if we get 40 new hospitals, 50,000 new nurses and no increases to costs in the NHS after a trade deal with America.
If that doesn't happen then you give me £100.
If you think the documents are fake and believe Boris then I'm sure you'll snatch my hand off for a free £100

its more where you get them from and the fact they do not look wrong to you before you paste them Dave.
he lied to the queen is a great example { but not the only ropey one } ....maybe he did. but maybe he did not. but only he and the queen know..so unless the moron that wrote the list is boris or the queen its rubbish .you put stuff like that in and it destroys any valid points your trying to make. but its all about making the lists longer ..

To simplify it:
Johnson asks the queen to suspend parliament and tells parliament that he's not doing it for brexit (think it's safe to assume he gave the queen that reason too)
Scottish and supreme court both say thats bollocks and unlawful.
Johnson apologies to the queen.
At best he's lied to parliament and to the public and quite frankly that's not acceptable.

A lot of people have scoffed at the list of lies I've made but I'm still waiting for the justifications for each one....

There’s no hope for people like you.

Anybody who thinks JC is the answer to all our problems needs to be sectioned. They guy is a complete looney is going to get his bum smacked in the election and hopefully he will finally piss off for good.

I’d rather vote for a Roath Park Duck.

I don't care how you vote. I don't think I've actually said for people to vote labour in this thread, all I've done there is point out that Johnson is a huge liar and I wouldn't trust him. If you don't want Johnson or Corbyn then vote for one of the many other people standing.

Like the Lib Dem’s who demanded a referendum but now say they wouldn’t recognise the result of a second referendum if Leave again won, or Plaid who claim to represent the Welsh voter but choose to ignore their wish to leave the failing EU. As for Corbyn his lies would fill a library. We all know Johnson is full of shite you on the other hand refuse to see Corbyn is even worse.

fair play to Josh for making a 8 pager out of him being a complete idiot.

So are you going to be the one to justify all of Johnsons lies or explain why America wanting a no deal brexit because we'll be weaker is good for us?
Or are you another one who's all talk and no substance?

bit rich for you to talk about all talk and no substance.

what does what america want regarding brexit have anything to do with anything?

Add that to the tally of ignoring my questions.
Do you really need me to tell you why what type of brexit America wants is relevant to a post brexit trade deal involving us and them?

of course they want to deal with us..
what planet are you from. its not a conspiracy , if YOU were running a business and someone that used whatever product you have was about to come out of a long term contract with a supplier where they had been tied to only buying from only that supplier ..YOU wouldn't be interested ?

Jobs not coming here is a not a quantitative figure and you should not be posting it Josh. It’s just a lie.

A million jobs gone, yet more people than ever in work. You have no ability to debate, rather choose to publish fairy tales.

So will you be writing to Elon musk to tell him that his decision to build his new gigaplant in Berlin rather than the UK because of brexit was a lie? Or all the investors and companies going to Irish and mainland Europe instead of Britain? Or the car manufacturers in Sunderland and Swindon and related jobs?

And I wouldn't look at employment being high when zero hour contracts, the fact that working 1 hour a week counts as employment, and the amount of people on a living wage is too low all exist.

fair play to Josh for making a 8 pager out of him being a complete idiot.

So are you going to be the one to justify all of Johnsons lies or explain why America wanting a no deal brexit because we'll be weaker is good for us?
Or are you another one who's all talk and no substance?

bit rich for you to talk about all talk and no substance.

what does what america want regarding brexit have anything to do with anything?

Add that to the tally of ignoring my questions.
Do you really need me to tell you why what type of brexit America wants is relevant to a post brexit trade deal involving us and them?

of course they want to deal with us..
what planet are you from. its not a conspiracy , if YOU were running a business and someone that used whatever product you have was about to come out of a long term contract with a supplier where they had been tied to only buying from only that supplier ..YOU wouldn't be interested ?

I think you're looking at it too kindly for us.
It'll be more like we're trying to get a company to go into financial difficulty so we can swoop in and get what we want on our terms.

Hopefully this works but it shows what is being talked about
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50572502

Hopefully Josh reads it and comments because it doesnt mention sellingofg nhs

I'm sorry but doggy will get upset that you're copy and pasting something.
Let's put money where your mouth is, I'll give you (or whoever else wants to take up the offer) £100 if we get 40 new hospitals, 50,000 new nurses and no increases to costs in the NHS after a trade deal with America.
If that doesn't happen then you give me £100.
If you think the documents are fake and believe Boris then I'm sure you'll snatch my hand off for a free £100

its more where you get them from and the fact they do not look wrong to you before you paste them Dave.
he lied to the queen is a great example { but not the only ropey one } ....maybe he did. but maybe he did not. but only he and the queen know..so unless the moron that wrote the list is boris or the queen its rubbish .you put stuff like that in and it destroys any valid points your trying to make. but its all about making the lists longer ..

To simplify it:
Johnson asks the queen to suspend parliament and tells parliament that he's not doing it for brexit (think it's safe to assume he gave the queen that reason too)
Scottish and supreme court both say thats bollocks and unlawful.
Johnson apologies to the queen.
At best he's lied to parliament and to the public and quite frankly that's not acceptable.

A lot of people have scoffed at the list of lies I've made but I'm still waiting for the justifications for each one....

There’s no hope for people like you.

Anybody who thinks JC is the answer to all our problems needs to be sectioned. They guy is a complete looney is going to get his bum smacked in the election and hopefully he will finally piss off for good.

I’d rather vote for a Roath Park Duck.

I don't care how you vote. I don't think I've actually said for people to vote labour in this thread, all I've done there is point out that Johnson is a huge liar and I wouldn't trust him. If you don't want Johnson or Corbyn then vote for one of the many other people standing.

Like the Lib Dem’s who demanded a referendum but now say they wouldn’t recognise the result of a second referendum if Leave again won, or Plaid who claim to represent the Welsh voter but choose to ignore their wish to leave the failing EU. As for Corbyn his lies would fill a library. We all know Johnson is full of shite you on the other hand refuse to see Corbyn is even worse.

Even the brexit party would have a second referendum so I wouldn't beat anyone else with that stick.

My view of Corbyn is that he's done and said some bad things but he is much better than Johnson. I may seem to love Corbyn on here but that's because a majority of the commentators on here, I feel, treat him ridiculously harshly. He gets called a terrorist which he isn't and I remember a post a while back that had pictures of the likes of khan and him with a knife to their heads with something like 'kill the rats' as the title. I'd defend any politician from that kind of abuse.

Hopefully this works but it shows what is being talked about
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50572502

Hopefully Josh reads it and comments because it doesnt mention sellingofg nhs

I'm sorry but doggy will get upset that you're copy and pasting something.
Let's put money where your mouth is, I'll give you (or whoever else wants to take up the offer) £100 if we get 40 new hospitals, 50,000 new nurses and no increases to costs in the NHS after a trade deal with America.
If that doesn't happen then you give me £100.
If you think the documents are fake and believe Boris then I'm sure you'll snatch my hand off for a free £100

its more where you get them from and the fact they do not look wrong to you before you paste them Dave.
he lied to the queen is a great example { but not the only ropey one } ....maybe he did. but maybe he did not. but only he and the queen know..so unless the moron that wrote the list is boris or the queen its rubbish .you put stuff like that in and it destroys any valid points your trying to make. but its all about making the lists longer ..

To simplify it:
Johnson asks the queen to suspend parliament and tells parliament that he's not doing it for brexit (think it's safe to assume he gave the queen that reason too)
Scottish and supreme court both say thats bollocks and unlawful.
Johnson apologies to the queen.
At best he's lied to parliament and to the public and quite frankly that's not acceptable.

A lot of people have scoffed at the list of lies I've made but I'm still waiting for the justifications for each one....

There’s no hope for people like you.

Anybody who thinks JC is the answer to all our problems needs to be sectioned. They guy is a complete looney is going to get his bum smacked in the election and hopefully he will finally piss off for good.

I’d rather vote for a Roath Park Duck.

I don't care how you vote. I don't think I've actually said for people to vote labour in this thread, all I've done there is point out that Johnson is a huge liar and I wouldn't trust him. If you don't want Johnson or Corbyn then vote for one of the many other people standing.

Like the Lib Dem’s who demanded a referendum but now say they wouldn’t recognise the result of a second referendum if Leave again won, or Plaid who claim to represent the Welsh voter but choose to ignore their wish to leave the failing EU. As for Corbyn his lies would fill a library. We all know Johnson is full of shite you on the other hand refuse to see Corbyn is even worse.

Even the brexit party would have a second referendum so I wouldn't beat anyone else with that stick.

My view of Corbyn is that he's done and said some bad things but he is much better than Johnson. I may seem to love Corbyn on here but that's because a majority of the commentators on here, I feel, treat him ridiculously harshly. He gets called a terrorist which he isn't and I remember a post a while back that had pictures of the likes of khan and him with a knife to their heads with something like 'kill the rats' as the title. I'd defend any politician from that kind of abuse.

You seem so channeled and blinkered it’s pointless debating this. I’ll give you this advice, which you’ll inevitably ignore. Never put your all your faith in a politician because irrespective of whatever party they represent they will always let you down.
My point with Corbyn is his lifelong core belief that the EU is a bankers Europe which damages the cause of socialism, he promised to smash it if he ever got into power, how can you continue to believe the useless commie prick has any integrity?

After yesterday’s damp squib with the supposed hot potato/dead cat/golden bullet NHS fantasy, the Marxist now is changing his strategy to preach about the home front and put Brexit to one side.

He’s fooling nobody if anybody has a minuscule iota of intelligence.

A vote for Corbyn and his followers who are pretending to be moderate socialists but have conveniently ignored the cliff edge Marxist economic utopia they are expressly standing for is a vote for the destruction of the economy and thereby the health and welfare of our nation.

After yesterday’s damp squib with the supposed hot potato/dead cat/golden bullet NHS fantasy, the Marxist now is changing his strategy to preach about the home front and put Brexit to one side.

He’s fooling nobody if anybody has a minuscule iota of intelligence.

A vote for Corbyn and his followers who are pretending to be moderate socialists but have conveniently ignored the cliff edge Marxist economic utopia they are expressly standing for is a vote for the destruction of the economy and thereby the health and welfare of our nation.

unfortunately hes fooling plenty of people like Josh here

Jobs not coming here is a not a quantitative figure and you should not be posting it Josh. It’s just a lie.

A million jobs gone, yet more people than ever in work. You have no ability to debate, rather choose to publish fairy tales.

So will you be writing to Elon musk to tell him that his decision to build his new gigaplant in Berlin rather than the UK because of brexit was a lie? Or all the investors and companies going to Irish and mainland Europe instead of Britain? Or the car manufacturers in Sunderland and Swindon and related jobs?

And I wouldn't look at employment being high when zero hour contracts, the fact that working 1 hour a week counts as employment, and the amount of people on a living wage is too low all exist.

Strewth, fella. You keep digging that hole and you pop up in Australia soon!

Your veil is starting to slip on here and people are starting to work you out

fair play to Josh for making a 8 pager out of him being a complete idiot.

So are you going to be the one to justify all of Johnsons lies or explain why America wanting a no deal brexit because we'll be weaker is good for us?
Or are you another one who's all talk and no substance?

bit rich for you to talk about all talk and no substance.

what does what america want regarding brexit have anything to do with anything?

Add that to the tally of ignoring my questions.
Do you really need me to tell you why what type of brexit America wants is relevant to a post brexit trade deal involving us and them?

of course they want to deal with us..
what planet are you from. its not a conspiracy , if YOU were running a business and someone that used whatever product you have was about to come out of a long term contract with a supplier where they had been tied to only buying from only that supplier ..YOU wouldn't be interested ?

I think you're looking at it too kindly for us.
It'll be more like we're trying to get a company to go into financial difficulty so we can swoop in and get what we want on our terms.

ah right.
anyway , the story of the millennium , which selling the NHS would certainly be , has been replaced today by plant a tree in 73 .. is he for real..
fitter if he stopped waving and dishing out those redacted files ,would have saved one tree there..

have to say it was a clever move to detract from the nutty interview..
you believed it though.

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Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

No winners in that toxic scenario, one pumped a munter, one pumped a ginger.....shameful.

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

I’m not forgetting any of that.

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

No winners in that toxic scenario, one pumped a munter, one pumped a ginger.....shameful.

Correct Jock

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

I’m not forgetting any of that.

Nor me

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

I would suggest that this post is racist. And from a Brexiteer..erm...living in Europe....Can’t make ir up!

Jeremy Corbyn

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Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

I would suggest that this post is racist. And from a Brexiteer..erm...living in Europe....Can’t make ir up!

You would know. And all Brexiteers live in Europe.

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

I would suggest that this post is racist. And from a Brexiteer..erm...living in Europe....Can’t make ir up!

Racist because he said Corbyn gave Abbott one? you Cant be serious!! certainly highlighting Corbyns connections with dodgy people/organisations isn't racist that's for sure.!!

Jeremy Corbyn ....... forget his links to the IRA, forget his links to Hamas, forget his links to Hezbollah, forget his links to the KGB and communist Soviet union,forget his links to the czechoslovakian secret police,forget his stance on the Falklands, forget his standpoint on trident,forget his views on our military,forget that for most his political career he refused to wear a poppy,forget that he refuses to sing the national anthem at official government functions.....forget absolutely everything
All you need to remember is Jeremy Corbyn shagged Diane Abbott. How on earth can anyone trust someone who does that?

I would suggest that this post is racist. And from a Brexiteer..erm...living in Europe....Can’t make ir up!

But you also suggest an independent Wales will make us all rich by selling water to the b*stard English at 3 pence a litre, so it’s very hard to take anything you suggest seriously.

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

Josh keep asking but you keep swerving, how can a blinkered remainiac like yourself put your trust in Corbyn, when he’s stated he’d smash the EU?

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

Josh keep asking but you keep swerving, how can a blinkered remainiac like yourself put your trust in Corbyn, when he’s stated he’d smash the EU?

I have answered before, he's said he'd be neutral in a second referendum. Putting it back to the people and putting the country over your own beliefs should be applauded imo.
I suppose you think Boris Johnsons pro EU article in case remain won is completely different because you're putting your trust in him?

Can you also grow up on the name calling please.

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

The reason Tesla went to Germany was down to money. Check out the German incentives and grants for electric vehicles. I suppose it's easier to concentrate on a company who have opted not to open a factory in the UK than someone like Aston Martin, especially if the latter does not suit your agenda. Easier to concentrate on one reason why Tesla may be in Germany rather than here, instead of copying and pasting the numerous other reasons why Germany was chosen. Just hope the workers in the new German factory don't wish to be in any union.

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

Josh keep asking but you keep swerving, how can a blinkered remainiac like yourself put your trust in Corbyn, when he’s stated he’d smash the EU?

I have answered before, he's said he'd be neutral in a second referendum. Putting it back to the people and putting the country over your own beliefs should be applauded imo.
I suppose you think Boris Johnsons pro EU article in case remain won is completely different because you're putting your trust in him?

Can you also grow up on the name calling please.[/quote




He will sit on fence Very painful if pointed fence!! and he wants a 2nd referendum with just remain and a new deal negotiated by him on ballot paper in other words we will stay in EU or do you think labour will leave without a customs union? Because it's their policy on EU to remain in a customs union ! Sounds like a one sided ballot paper..

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

Josh keep asking but you keep swerving, how can a blinkered remainiac like yourself put your trust in Corbyn, when he’s stated he’d smash the EU?

I have answered before, he's said he'd be neutral in a second referendum. Putting it back to the people and putting the country over your own beliefs should be applauded imo.
I suppose you think Boris Johnsons pro EU article in case remain won is completely different because you're putting your trust in him?

Can you also grow up on the name calling please.

Name calling?
You suppose wrong I’ve stated many times I’m not a Johnson fan, you seem to confuse criticism of Corbyn with support for other politicians. Corbyn is not putting the country first ,he’s putting his own political ambition first, he’s been an opponent of the “Bankers Europe” all his political life because it’s the direct opposite of what hes always believed in but heyho there’s a chance of becoming PM........so he no longer wants to “smash the EU” and you’re so blinkered you refuse to recognise it.

Josh i note you use Tesla as a bashing stick blaming its decision to open a new factory in Germany on Brexit.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

Germany is seen as the heart of the automotive industry.

That industry in Germany has slowed down, Tesla believe the automotive industry needs a complete shake up ref: new technologies etc.....

Where better than to start that shake up than in the very heart of the automotive industry, elon has said himself thats why he chose Germany.

Plus the Germans bent over backwards to accommodate them.

So now I'm sure you'll agree its zero, buggar all, absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

So just to confirm that even though he said 'Brexit made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the uk' it has 'bugger all' to do with brexit? Ok then.

The reason Tesla went to Germany was down to money. Check out the German incentives and grants for electric vehicles. I suppose it's easier to concentrate on a company who have opted not to open a factory in the UK than someone like Aston Martin, especially if the latter does not suit your agenda. Easier to concentrate on one reason why Tesla may be in Germany rather than here, instead of copying and pasting the numerous other reasons why Germany was chosen. Just hope the workers in the new German factory don't wish to be in any union.

Strewth, fella. You keep digging that hole and you'll pop up in Australia soon!
The owner has literally said that it's not being built here because of brexit so you either have to A) Think he's lying (you then have to ask why he'd say it in the first place and not just give one of your many reasons) or B) ?