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‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:17 am

‘ Will Vaulks ‘

By Glen Williams


One man who certainly needs a new lease of life at Cardiff is summer signing Will Vaulks.

The Wales international came to the capital this summer in hope of playing a key role in a Bluebirds promotion push.

That, sadly, has certainly not happened. Following a poor outing against Reading in the 3-0 defeat back in August, Vaulks has been frozen out of the side and has had to play much of his football for the under-23s.

It's a sad state of affairs for a man who had so many backers after signing for the club in the summer.

That is not to say, however, that his ambition of starring in this City midfield is altogether lost, and Harris may well see him as someone who has an important role to play.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:21 am

I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:28 am

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:55 am

dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.

Exactly it’s not U10’s there professional footballers if he can’t produce the goods it’s tough luck.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:15 pm

One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:47 pm

tangledupinblue wrote:One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.



is that why he landed the job ?

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:03 pm

Rather than overnight I think we'll see an emergence of Harris's style and I'm sure we'll see Vaulks given a shot.Don't forget Ralls wasn't first choice until Warnock took over.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:48 pm

dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.


I agree, but he's just another in a line of Warnock signings that weren't used, so why the fook did he sign him?

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:41 pm

dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.



It's not give every player a go at all. I never said that!! Will vaulks was brought in for a reason....his potential.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:44 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.

Exactly it’s not U10’s there professional footballers if he can’t produce the goods it’s tough luck.




Under 10s? Cant produce the goods?
Hes been out of the team because certain players like bacuna ralls etc have been playing well. He was subbed in the reading game but the whole team were awful. He has not been given a fair chance and when he does you will see that he can cut it

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:46 pm

Will vaulks is not even used as a sub!!! Hes on the bench an awful lot. Why wasnt he used when we were 2 or 3 up against QPR for example instead of bringing on experienced players. Those are the games I'm talking about where he has not been given a chance

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:57 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:Will vaulks is not even used as a sub!!! Hes on the bench an awful lot. Why wasnt he used when we were 2 or 3 up against QPR for example instead of bringing on experienced players. Those are the games I'm talking about where he has not been given a chance



he is an experienced player ..but the answer is our manager was trying to manage a game.
its football not britains got talent.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:53 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.

Exactly it’s not U10’s there professional footballers if he can’t produce the goods it’s tough luck.



Lets face it though, pointless signing. We brought in a player who was no better than what we had. It was signings like this that left our board baffled.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:55 pm

dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:Will vaulks is not even used as a sub!!! Hes on the bench an awful lot. Why wasnt he used when we were 2 or 3 up against QPR for example instead of bringing on experienced players. Those are the games I'm talking about where he has not been given a chance



he is an experienced player ..but the answer is our manager was trying to manage a game.
its football not britains got talent.



Makes absolutely no sense!!!! Why would you even use that program as a reference. Is it on the tv after you've watched the cardiff game I guess?

If you are managing a game and 3-0 up and you have youth and players you brought in the summer sat on the bench then surely they are chosen for the bench for a reason.

There are players to make an impact if things are not going right and other players that can get game time depending on if you are winning quite comfortably. The QPR game was being won quite comfortably so why would you bring on experienced players and not give at least your new signing or young player some game time...its the perfect opportunity....otherwise when do you ever play them?

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:59 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.

Exactly it’s not U10’s there professional footballers if he can’t produce the goods it’s tough luck.



Lets face it though, pointless signing. We brought in a player who was no better than what we had. It was signings like this that left our board baffled.



I dont believe he was a pointless signing. You only say that as he has had very little game time.

How was our board baffled...surely they sanction the signings? Unless you mean this message board in which case "my bad"

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:24 am

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:Will vaulks is not even used as a sub!!! Hes on the bench an awful lot. Why wasnt he used when we were 2 or 3 up against QPR for example instead of bringing on experienced players. Those are the games I'm talking about where he has not been given a chance



he is an experienced player ..but the answer is our manager was trying to manage a game.
its football not britains got talent.



Makes absolutely no sense!!!! Why would you even use that program as a reference. Is it on the tv after you've watched the cardiff game I guess?

If you are managing a game and 3-0 up and you have youth and players you brought in the summer sat on the bench then surely they are chosen for the bench for a reason.

There are players to make an impact if things are not going right and other players that can get game time depending on if you are winning quite comfortably. The QPR game was being won quite comfortably so why would you bring on experienced players and not give at least your new signing or young player some game time...its the perfect opportunity....otherwise when do you ever play them?



you manage a game by bringing on players you most trust and are likely to use to do specific jobs..
honestly got understand the idea its comfortable so you can just chuck anyone on..football really doesn't work like that, and that's why I mentioned that show...its not just give everyone a go.,. come on mate..
btw QPR looked very good and a bit unfortunate to me. had they scored with 10 mins left we would have all been on edge.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:29 am

nubbsy wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:I spoke to Will recently and he said it felt like a waste of his time coming to cardiff under Warnock. He looked really pi@#ed off so let's hope Neil harris does use him because he is definitely a future star for us




you can only pick 11 and if he is not one of the best 11 ,I hope he doesn't pick him...don't get this give everyone a go thing at all.

Exactly it’s not U10’s there professional footballers if he can’t produce the goods it’s tough luck.



Lets face it though, pointless signing. We brought in a player who was no better than what we had. It was signings like this that left our board baffled.



to be fair we haven't seen enough .. and we lost gunner, arter and camarasa.. so needed players in and had Pack not come in very late in the window this guy would have played more...he was an unused sun v Bristol not sure who we had of similar to be there instead of him
what ive seen im not impressed.. but as said, haven't seen enough I think..

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:15 pm

tangledupinblue wrote:One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.

Probably means he’ll have a look in training without any preconceived ideas.

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:08 pm

dogfound wrote:
tangledupinblue wrote:One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.



is that why he landed the job ?


Yes, thats what created the vacancy.

If the players hadn't been underperforming, Warnock wouldn't have had any negativity from press and fans, and would probably have seen the season through

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:10 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
tangledupinblue wrote:One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.

Probably means he’ll have a look in training without any preconceived ideas.



Like Coxe and the others, it's a clean slate a new Manager to impress, has he got the talent and the bollocks to do it, or is he going to feel sorry for himself and say it's a waste of time?

Let's see what you've got Vaulks, two managers can't be wrong, if you are good enough, Harris will give you your a chance!!!!

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:15 pm

Bluebina wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
tangledupinblue wrote:One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.

Probably means he’ll have a look in training without any preconceived ideas.



Like Coxe and the others, it's a clean slate a new Manager to impress, has he got the talent and the bollocks to do it, or is he going to feel sorry for himself and say it's a waste of time?

Let's see what you've got Vaulks, two managers can't be wrong, if you are good enough, Harris will give you your a chance!!!!



The existing first 11 are not immovable, we aren't playing well, any player worth his salt, should be able to break in, these players need to show what they've got and make a difference!!!

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:32 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
tangledupinblue wrote:One thing I dread when a new manager comes in

Let’s have a look at everyone and give them a chance, see what they got?

NO!!

You have landed a new job because your inherited group of players haven’t been good enough, don’t waste time doing that, they all had chances, as your predecessor kept changing the team . a reboot and overhaul of style and personnel is needed. Which makes January absolutely vital in the starting blocks for that

But it’s going to be so difficult to do that, if you can’t move players out,and to change the playing style of this squad, the key window is next summer.

Probably means he’ll have a look in training without any preconceived ideas.



Like Coxe and the others, it's a clean slate a new Manager to impress, has he got the talent and the bollocks to do it, or is he going to feel sorry for himself and say it's a waste of time?

Let's see what you've got Vaulks, two managers can't be wrong, if you are good enough, Harris will give you your a chance!!!!



The existing first 11 are not immovable, we aren't playing well, any player worth his salt, should be able to break in, these players need to show what they've got and make a difference!!!



we haven't been playing that badly either...results were not what we would have liked..but played well at millwall until the double injury at around the hour mark..beat brum..and really should have got at least a point against brisol...Swansea we were outplayed...but its not like we are being hammered
wasn't expecting much this year anyway..

Re: ‘ Will Vaulks ‘

Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:02 pm

I would have liked to have seen Vaulks get more game time. It's not like any of our midfielders are setting the championship alight this season. Ralls has probably been our best midfielder but Bacuna is a pretty average player even when he's having a good game by his standards. Vaulks got 7 goals and 7 assists in a relegated team so it is not like he's not up to championship standard. Didn't Warnock pay £3mill for him as well? Another pointless signing to add to the list.