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Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:16 am

I come in peace. Let me extend a large paw of friendship.

I was very fond of Bomber as a manager and disappointed he left Millwall, as were many other Millwall fans. You have probably only heard the more vociferous fans, the ones who wanted him to leave. I was surprised he got the Cardiff job, but you actually have a very good manager. I thought that given time he might take Millwall into the Premier League, so Cardiff shouldn't be despondent.

I don't have any special insight into him or his philosophy or training, but he is a man of principle and once those are understood the whole club benefits. That takes time though. Also, he will be coming with Dave Livermore, who is an excellent and trusted lieutenant and no nonsense. If you are Millwall, the singing is very important, so your choir might be an insipration for both the players and manager.

Take good care of your excellent new manager. Show him the Rhondda in some good weather.

It should be a cracking game on Boxing Day. You will hear how loud even 2,000 Millwall can be!

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:42 am

Lions wrote:I come in peace. Let me extend a large paw of friendship.

I was very fond of Bomber as a manager and disappointed he left Millwall, as were many other Millwall fans. You have probably only heard the more vociferous fans, the ones who wanted him to leave. I was surprised he got the Cardiff job, but you actually have a very good manager. I thought that given time he might take Millwall into the Premier League, so Cardiff shouldn't be despondent.

I don't have any special insight into him or his philosophy or training, but he is a man of principle and once those are understood the whole club benefits. That takes time though. Also, he will be coming with Dave Livermore, who is an excellent and trusted lieutenant and no nonsense. If you are Millwall, the singing is very important, so your choir might be an insipration for both the players and manager.

Take good care of your excellent new manager. Show him the Rhondda in some good weather.

It should be a cracking game on Boxing Day. You will hear how loud even 2,000 Millwall can be!



We're doing cartwheels here, in anticipation of having our piss-poor possession stats drop even lower (Millwall under 42%, the only Championship team lower than us!).
Forgive our disdain towards Neil Harris, but we've had our fill of hoofball, we can't take another dose of it.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:47 am

Lions wrote:I come in peace. Let me extend a large paw of friendship.

I was very fond of Bomber as a manager and disappointed he left Millwall, as were many other Millwall fans. You have probably only heard the more vociferous fans, the ones who wanted him to leave. I was surprised he got the Cardiff job, but you actually have a very good manager. I thought that given time he might take Millwall into the Premier League, so Cardiff shouldn't be despondent.

I don't have any special insight into him or his philosophy or training, but he is a man of principle and once those are understood the whole club benefits. That takes time though. Also, he will be coming with Dave Livermore, who is an excellent and trusted lieutenant and no nonsense. If you are Millwall, the singing is very important, so your choir might be an insipration for both the players and manager.

Take good care of your excellent new manager. Show him the Rhondda in some good weather.

It should be a cracking game on Boxing Day. You will hear how loud even 2,000 Millwall can be!


Happy to give him back to the 2000 boxing day as a belated gift.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:05 am

He was a Millwall legend so given a bit of respect when given the managers job,he won’t be getting that here,most remember him for leaving us half way through a loan spell,we ve had loads of bell end managers over the years,Harris it seems to most is just another to add to a long list

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:13 am

caerblue wrote:He was a Millwall legend so given a bit of respect when given the managers job,he won’t be getting that here,most remember him for leaving us half way through a loan spell,we ve had loads of bell end managers over the years,Harris it seems to most is just another to add to a long list



What a strange point of view :?

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:14 am

It's well known Millwall haven't got a pot to piss in so I'm hoping he can do better with a club not as financially impotent as you lot.It would have been tough for anyone to follow in the footsteps the previous manager with his unsurpassed credentials but will give the guy a chance.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:25 am

The OP says we have only heard the most vociferous fans, and that is the same with social media in general. The small percentage who are slagging off our new manager before the ink has dried on his new contract are typical of today's modern social media generation. I am sure most fans will get behind him for now, as I have said before, there are still a lot of us around who were supporters when we were really crap with really crap managers, and Championship football was just a distant dream.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:30 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:The OP says we have only heard the most vociferous fans, and that is the same with social media in general. The small percentage who are slagging off our new manager before the ink has dried on his new contract are typical of today's modern social media generation. I am sure most fans will get behind him for now, as I have said before, there are still a lot of us around who were supporters when we were really crap with really crap managers, and Championship football was just a distant dream.



Steve hes just another manager we've had they come and go no matter what they do! remember ranieri got sacked season after winning premier league because board felt they had gone as far as he could take them :o time will tell how our fans remember Harris maybe they'll be surprised...

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:42 am

It is not easy to see principles in action. Sometimes Chopper was making decisions (on team selection for example) which many fans found inexplicable, even plain wrong. What Chopper has is commitment. He sticks to his principles, even when choices are narrowed down to what might appear as a poor choice. That is the way I see it. The benefit is that you can actually test your beliefs that way, and also it keeps the club stronger as there is some sanity, some prevailing sense which people can follow.

If you want to help your manager, in my opinion you should introduce him to the local culture and arts and try and bring that influence into his thinking. He seemed to not derive that kind of strength from what was on offer in London, and there is a lot on offer around the banks of the Thames.

Millwall's new manager has picked up a club in a very good state. He is bringing his own insights into to squad and has started some exciting style. If Cardiff have a director of football who can offer some similar insights, it will complement Chopper nicely.

Cardiff vs Millwall will be a great game, and the Millwall players will be very happy to see their old manager again. For me, it will be very interesting to see the Millwall way in action against its old manager.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:50 am

paulh_85 wrote:
caerblue wrote:He was a Millwall legend so given a bit of respect when given the managers job,he won’t be getting that here,most remember him for leaving us half way through a loan spell,we ve had loads of bell end managers over the years,Harris it seems to most is just another to add to a long list



What a strange point of view :?

How’s it strange?,if Earnie for example was giving the Cardiff job,would he or would he not be given some time just because of his playing days here?,if Millwall give Earnie the managers job,they’d be playing right up

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:55 am

Hmmm, I'm smelling fraud here; too similar in style to previous 'in peace' threads and one directional ;)

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:58 am

Very interesting and intelligent read, and insight into NH, cheers Lions.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:10 pm

Sven wrote:Hmmm, I'm smelling fraud here; too similar in style to previous 'in peace' threads and one directional ;)



Wa thinking exactly the same.During my near 10yrs on this board the "I come in peace" line has been trotted out many times.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:23 pm

Lions wrote:It is not easy to see principles in action. Sometimes Chopper was making decisions (on team selection for example) which many fans found inexplicable, even plain wrong. What Chopper has is commitment. He sticks to his principles, even when choices are narrowed down to what might appear as a poor choice. That is the way I see it. The benefit is that you can actually test your beliefs that way, and also it keeps the club stronger as there is some sanity, some prevailing sense which people can follow.

If you want to help your manager, in my opinion you should introduce him to the local culture and arts and try and bring that influence into his thinking. He seemed to not derive that kind of strength from what was on offer in London, and there is a lot on offer around the banks of the Thames.

Millwall's new manager has picked up a club in a very good state. He is bringing his own insights into to squad and has started some exciting style. If Cardiff have a director of football who can offer some similar insights, it will complement Chopper nicely.

Cardiff vs Millwall will be a great game, and the Millwall players will be very happy to see their old manager again. For me, it will be very interesting to see the Millwall way in action against its old manager.


Cardiff v Millwall will certainly be interesting - each team trying to have less possession than the other and the ball spending most of the game in the clouds.

Thought about selling my neck brace when Warnock left but looks like I'll be needing it for a while yet.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:37 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Sven wrote:Hmmm, I'm smelling fraud here; too similar in style to previous 'in peace' threads and one directional ;)



Wa thinking exactly the same.During my near 10yrs on this board the "I come in peace" line has been trotted out many times.

Mart, there are some clear indicators in there... ;)

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:46 pm

Clearly not a lions fan and just a city fan trying to make Harris look good. All the Millwall forum say totally different to this

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:42 pm

neilst wrote:Clearly not a lions fan and just a city fan trying to make Harris look good. All the Millwall forum say totally different to this


Maybe the Lions’ board you are reading is like this one and doesn’t reflect the actual Cardiff City fan base at all or changes their mind depending on the weather like this one.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:18 pm

maccydee wrote:
neilst wrote:Clearly not a lions fan and just a city fan trying to make Harris look good. All the Millwall forum say totally different to this


Maybe the Lions’ board you are reading is like this one and doesn’t reflect the actual Cardiff City fan base at all or changes their mind depending on the weather like this one.

Neil, a couple of faux pas from the OP, including renaming of 'Bomber' to 'Chopper' in its two posts today; not a mistake a genuine Millwall fan would make (confusing a Millwall legend with a Chelsea one, that is) ;) :laughing6:

Not a Millwall fan and not a Cardiff City fan fan either :(

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:45 pm

Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
neilst wrote:Clearly not a lions fan and just a city fan trying to make Harris look good. All the Millwall forum say totally different to this


Maybe the Lions’ board you are reading is like this one and doesn’t reflect the actual Cardiff City fan base at all or changes their mind depending on the weather like this one.

Neil, a couple of faux pas from the OP, including renaming of 'Bomber' to 'Chopper' in its two posts today; not a mistake a genuine Millwall fan would make (confusing a Millwall legend with a Chelsea one, that is) ;) :laughing6:

Not a Millwall fan and not a Cardiff City fan fan either :(


Not Roathie then?
He doesn't usually make such glaring errors.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:30 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
neilst wrote:Clearly not a lions fan and just a city fan trying to make Harris look good. All the Millwall forum say totally different to this


Maybe the Lions’ board you are reading is like this one and doesn’t reflect the actual Cardiff City fan base at all or changes their mind depending on the weather like this one.

Neil, a couple of faux pas from the OP, including renaming of 'Bomber' to 'Chopper' in its two posts today; not a mistake a genuine Millwall fan would make (confusing a Millwall legend with a Chelsea one, that is) ;) :laughing6:

Not a Millwall fan and not a Cardiff City fan fan either :(


Not Roathie then?
He doesn't usually make such glaring errors.



oh the new roathie does.
hard to believe but some really sad tw*t is actually impersonating Roath..

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
neilst wrote:Clearly not a lions fan and just a city fan trying to make Harris look good. All the Millwall forum say totally different to this


Maybe the Lions’ board you are reading is like this one and doesn’t reflect the actual Cardiff City fan base at all or changes their mind depending on the weather like this one.

Neil, a couple of faux pas from the OP, including renaming of 'Bomber' to 'Chopper' in its two posts today; not a mistake a genuine Millwall fan would make (confusing a Millwall legend with a Chelsea one, that is) ;) :laughing6:

Not a Millwall fan and not a Cardiff City fan fan either :(



no doubt predictive text will be blamed. probably talks a lot about choppers :lol:

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:20 pm

I love Millwall. You can rest assured I am a Wall fan, though maybe an odd or watered down one.

I think Cardiff are in for a pleasant surprise when you realize the calibre of the man. Neil Warnock wouldn't have recommended him otherwise.

I hope you have fun against the Train Spotters. I expect you all to be in fine voice on Boxing Day. It should be a capital game.

Before I go, let me say do Wales a favour and influence the fixtures next season so that we visit Wales when it is likely to be sunny. A lot of Londoners have no idea how beautiful the place is, and if it is not raining might take the opportunity to spend the weekend having a look round the countryside.

Till we meet again! :mrgreen:

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=rVgwTzdrcSk

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:32 pm

The chink in his armour, his mortal error, his fatal mistake were uttering the words “fair weather in the Rhondda”...Cardiff, Millwall, nor any man on earth knows this not to be true.

A rat is whiffed..

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:26 pm

Lions wrote:I come in peace. Let me extend a large paw of friendship.

I was very fond of Bomber as a manager and disappointed he left Millwall, as were many other Millwall fans. You have probably only heard the more vociferous fans, the ones who wanted him to leave. I was surprised he got the Cardiff job, but you actually have a very good manager. I thought that given time he might take Millwall into the Premier League, so Cardiff shouldn't be despondent.

I don't have any special insight into him or his philosophy or training, but he is a man of principle and once those are understood the whole club benefits. That takes time though. Also, he will be coming with Dave Livermore, who is an excellent and trusted lieutenant and no nonsense. If you are Millwall, the singing is very important, so your choir might be an insipration for both the players and manager.

Take good care of your excellent new manager. Show him the Rhondda in some good weather.

It should be a cracking game on Boxing Day. You will hear how loud even 2,000 Millwall can be!


Noswaith dda, dyn ni weld. Diolch yn fawr .....

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:37 pm

Simon Jordan knows Neil Warnock and Neil Harris and as good as said today that he was surprised Harris took the job as he feels it’s too big fir him and city need a bigger character in charge ....Jordan’s view was it was a football decision made by people who are not football men

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:13 pm

Blueman39 wrote:Simon Jordan knows Neil Warnock and Neil Harris and as good as said today that he was surprised Harris took the job as he feels it’s too big fir him and city need a bigger character in charge ....Jordan’s view was it was a football decision made by people who are not football men


Spot on.

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:47 pm

As much as I respect Milwall, the 2,000 coming down on Boxing Day is the biggest give-away that it's a bullsh#t post!

Re: Lions fan here

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:21 pm

Sven wrote:Hmmm, I'm smelling fraud here; too similar in style to previous 'in peace' threads and one directional ;)


;)

Re: Lions fan here

Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:59 am

And there was me expecting him to ask rugby related questions,being a lions fan :laughing5: (I'll get my coat :roll: ))just thought I'd try and lighten the mood,after recent events ;) :old: :bluebird: