NEIL WARNOCK RESPONDS TO CRAIG BELLAMY COMMENTS

Neil Warnock on Craig Bellamy's comments


"I think he was misled, really. He didn’t mention my name, even though you used it as a headline, he didn’t actually mention my name.

But if I had any youngsters good enough they would be in the team, that’s what I would say to him.

You tell me any youngster that’s left here and made a good living out of it or gone on to better things, I can’t think of any.

So it’s disappointing that there’s not many youngsters coming through.

He compared it with Belgium, with Anderlecht, but it’s no comparison with Belgian football. I’m disappointed that we haven’t (produced more).

But I remember the first time I met with Craig, I think James (McCarthy) was with him as well and we talked about the under 18s and I said to them that I wasn’t bothered about them winning.

I wanted them to be pushing them through to the first team, what their priorities should be.

I wanted the under 18s training with the under 23s etc., but it never happened. The under 18s won the league and I’ve not seen any development since.

Club has got to reassess the academy over the next couple of years."

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So Agent Mackay's 2 sons were not good then,along with a few others

So Agent Mackay's 2 sons were not good then,along with a few others

depends who you believe..
im looking forward to the club having a windfall in January when Anderlecht come in for all this talent we apparently have.

So if Warnock is right then this shows for the last 10years our ACCADEMY is failing and not being run right and not being looked after, which I have stated every year .

So if Warnock is right then this shows for the last 10years our ACCADEMY is failing and not being run right and not being looked after, which I have stated every year .

well its not producing which is the whole point in having one. and any talent we do find will get pinched by the super clubs...

So if Warnock is right then this shows for the last 10years our ACCADEMY is failing and not being run right and not being looked after, which I have stated every year .

well its not producing which is the whole point in having one. and any talent we do find will get pinched by the super clubs...

Well we produced that kid who went to Man City who then sold for good money.

We know that if anyone is decent the top clubs will pick them up. Unless the system is changed which doesn't seem likely I'd consider closing it down to be honest. The big clubs are to powerful these days and have to many scouts to keep up.

So if Warnock is right then this shows for the last 10years our ACCADEMY is failing and not being run right and not being looked after, which I have stated every year .

Definatly it's down to tan & choo to get sorted I thought we were spending money on this back 6 years ago

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

We've had one player pinched by a superclub in Montado.

I think the point is that our academy doesn't seem to make talented players better.

I'd level the same criticism at Sir Neil. Who has he made better? He gets what he gets out of the Hoilets, Bennets, Ralls or Morrisons of the squad but who has he improved or made better? Not money future signings in Murphy or Reid for sure.

Labouring a point I've made before but not one single player Sir Neil has signed for a fee or for free has exited the club for any money. Not one.

The academy follows suit.

So if Warnock is right then this shows for the last 10years our ACCADEMY is failing and not being run right and not being looked after, which I have stated every year .

You certainly have (stated that) and it looks like you're being proved right!

Neil Warnock actually has a pretty good record for bringing through youngsters, so the onus appears to be on the club itself (we had a great Academy under Sam) and the coaches themselves

Not knocking Craig individually, as this is not a new thing the cCCS; but it certainly appears that the finger is being firmly pointed towards the caching staffs for not adhering to the brief under Neil Warnock's watch

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

We've had one player pinched by a superclub in Montado.

I think the point is that our academy doesn't seem to make talented players better.

I'd level the same criticism at Sir Neil. Who has he made better? He gets what he gets out of the Hoilets, Bennets, Ralls or Morrisons of the squad but who has he improved or made better? Not money future signings in Murphy or Reid for sure.

Labouring a point I've made before but not one single player Sir Neil has signed for a fee or for free has exited the club for any money. Not one.

The academy follows suit.

who is to say our academy does not make them better...?
not good enough to play for our first team doesn't mean they haven't learned anything or have not improved ..
as for selling..weve had offers for bennet and mozza..and was zohore really worth 8 million when Warnock arrived ?
new stick required that ones got woodworm..

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

Sir Neil didnt sign Morrison or Bennett. Or Zahore. Hasn't made any of them better either. He got half a season out of Zahore.

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

we do this as well.

Sir Neil didnt sign Morrison or Bennett. Or Zahore. Hasn't made any of them better either. He got half a season out of Zahore.

we got 8 million for zohore mate

you might think he is not worth that but we got 8 million

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

we do this as well.

No doubt we do but did we have training camps in Swansea? What happened to going to schools to look at talent like old days?

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

we do this as well.

No doubt we do but did we have training camps in Swansea? What happened to going to schools to look at talent like old days?

they look everywhere mate.. its not like we haven't found players down there.. Mark Harris is from Swansea and Adam Mathews from Gorseinon.. clubs do occasionally find players at these open day { trials } and boys from development centers do sometimes get drafted into the academy..

The fire in my belly for our club really ignites when we produce a talent like Aaron Ramsey. I think Im probably happiest when we have local lads playing for us, but sadly it doesn't happen enough. The Jacks and other teams seem to blood local lads and do so because they are good enough to take the pressure and prosper. Even Welsh players playing for the Bluebirds has always been one of my motivators, and again that has not been happening. So we are singing about ourselves with our Welsh/Cardiff terrace chants, not the team, the players don't get it, they aren't from here, no connection. In an old school way, I would love for all teams to have no choice but to pick local players in their match day squad, a bit like Real Sociedad's model. A pipe dream of course, its modern footballs branding that has seen a decline of this in all clubs.

I bet when we played Liverpool for example, back in the old days, it was a dressing room full of welsh accents and a dressing room full of Scouse. Matching the accents of the terraces. The fans supporting their own. Like in International football, I wish club football was more like that. A true indicator of who really are the best footballing towns or cities.

Was it a case of Bellamy thinking they were good enough and Warnock not? I'm on the fence, because given the chance, young rookies can blossom with better and more experienced players around them.

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

we do this as well.

No doubt we do but did we have training camps in Swansea? What happened to going to schools to look at talent like old days?

they look everywhere mate.. its not like we haven't found players down there.. Mark Harris is from Swansea and Adam Mathews from Gorseinon.. clubs do occasionally find players at these open day { trials } and boys from development centers do sometimes get drafted into the academy..

2 young boys from area 1 being my daughters ex boyfriend until he went to Swansea actually
He had everything paid for him so did the other young kid

Both spent 2 years at swansea academy

My argument is why arnt we recruiting kids enough ?

The fire in my belly for our club really ignites when we produce a talent like Aaron Ramsey. I think Im probably happiest when we have local lads playing for us, but sadly it doesn't happen enough. The Jacks and other teams seem to blood local lads and do so because they are good enough to take the pressure and prosper. Even Welsh players playing for the Bluebirds has always been one of my motivators, and again that has not been happening. So we are singing about ourselves with our Welsh/Cardiff terrace chants, not the team, the players don't get it, they aren't from here, no connection. In an old school way, I would love for all teams to have no choice but to pick local players in their match day squad, a bit like Real Sociedad's model. A pipe dream of course, its modern footballs branding that has seen a decline of this in all clubs.

I bet when we played Liverpool for example, back in the old days, it was a dressing room full of welsh accents and a dressing room full of Scouse. Matching the accents of the terraces. The fans supporting their own. Like in International football, I wish club football was more like that. A true indicator of who really are the best footballing towns or cities.

Was it a case of Bellamy thinking they were good enough and Warnock not? I'm on the fence, because given the chance, young rookies can blossom with better and more experienced players around them.

back in the old days...we had 3 Welshmen in our 1927 cup winning team...and an Englishman as manager..

its not modern football, just football.

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

we do this as well.

No doubt we do but did we have training camps in Swansea? What happened to going to schools to look at talent like old days?

they look everywhere mate.. its not like we haven't found players down there.. Mark Harris is from Swansea and Adam Mathews from Gorseinon.. clubs do occasionally find players at these open day { trials } and boys from development centers do sometimes get drafted into the academy..

When my son was in the academy from memory in his age group 5 from Swansea 1 from Haverfordwest 3 from Rhondda valleys 3 from Cardiff 2 from Newport 1 from Cwmbran 1 from Neath

City also gave centres In Neath Swansea Carmarthen then as well

Swansea were sat on our turf 5 years ago hosting competitions and trial days for youngsters while we had a circus

They were screwing parents out of hundreds of £££s by having kids buy their kits for training days at local parks in and around Cardiff ect knowing full well that the kids were not good enough to get into the elite academy at the club... they are not only premier club to do it either call it exploitation of kids dreaming of stardom.

If that's right, it's disgraceful at any club!

Sven because they were a premier club they like other clubs set up so called training camps in neighbouring towns! As part of it the boys had to buy appropriate club kit so making money for club also pay to be coached by the relevant clubs staff! Best will in world if a kid was good enough he'd be picked up without going to a training camp thats for sure, so all the kids and parents dreaming of the money had no chance of little boris making it to the clubs elite academy because simply not good enough and never would be despite professional coaches, as you know talent is natural and it's those kids that go to the clubs not average boris's on splott park ..

we do this as well.

No doubt we do but did we have training camps in Swansea? What happened to going to schools to look at talent like old days?

they look everywhere mate.. its not like we haven't found players down there.. Mark Harris is from Swansea and Adam Mathews from Gorseinon.. clubs do occasionally find players at these open day { trials } and boys from development centers do sometimes get drafted into the academy..

2 young boys from area 1 being my daughters ex boyfriend until he went to Swansea actually
He had everything paid for him so did the other young kid

Both spent 2 years at swansea academy

My argument is why arnt we recruiting kids enough ?

clubs take more now than ever ..

Seven of this years Wales u16 victory shield squad attached to Swansea and only two from Cardiff. At least two of the Swansea attached players are from the Vale of Glamorgan and were under the noses of Cardiff City but Swansea moved first and better.

Seven of this years Wales u16 victory shield squad attached to Swansea and only two from Cardiff. At least two of the Swansea attached players are from the Vale of Glamorgan and were under the noses of Cardiff City but Swansea moved first and better.

maybe we have the best 2 ?
thing is more than 90% of these boys who get capped at this level do not progress to get senior caps.
its not about having the best team at under 16s or 18s or whatever ,its about having the 1 or 2 players that really stand a chance.

Seven of this years Wales u16 victory shield squad attached to Swansea and only two from Cardiff. At least two of the Swansea attached players are from the Vale of Glamorgan and were under the noses of Cardiff City but Swansea moved first and better.

maybe we have the best 2 ?
thing is more than 90% of these boys who get capped at this level do not progress to get senior caps.
its not about having the best team at under 16s or 18s or whatever ,its about having the 1 or 2 players that really stand a chance.

Of course. None of them may get anywhere near the level; or five of them might. All understood. Swanseas academy sides play at a suppossed higher level than ours and reality is they are some way ahead of us.