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‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:50 pm

CAN CARDIFF CITY SPEND THIS JANUARY?

I believe the fans will expect Cardiff to strengthen this January.

That is the key question.

It is understood that the parachute payments, believed to be worth around £60m, have been made already to Cardiff on top of the £100m they made in TV money while in the Premier League last year, that’s a total of £160 million Cardiff have received in the last few months.

The Bluebirds came out on top in the summer transfer window, so spending nothing so far, if we are to account for the full transfer fee Fulham are set to pay for Reid, so, surely, there will be funds released in January?

It remains to be seen, of course, whether the ruling on Emiliano Sala will affect Cardiff's budget at all, or whether that £15m-plus fee will be accounted for by insurance??

Another facet to this is the transfer ban potentially hanging over City's head.

FIFA have said that if Cardiff fail to comply with the ruling and refuse to pay the sum they will be hit with a three-window transfer ban.

The club was given 45 days to pay Nantes after the French club provided them with their bank details.

It is understood, however, that 45-day period is now suspended after Cardiff lodged an appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

CAS have told Cardiff they have until the end of November to submit their grounds for appeal and then the club will have to wait on a time frame for when their case will be heard.

That might well be after January, therefore allowing Cardiff to operate as normal in that transfer window :thumbright: :bluebird:
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Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:57 pm

unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:00 pm

I very much doubt it, especially if the Sala situation is Still ongoing.
Even if there was funding available, would it be wise to allow NW to spend it?

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:04 pm

dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:13 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:19 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:23 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.




hope im wrong...infact I hope we pay, its gone on long enough.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:52 pm

Yeah of course we will pay it we just trying to get away with paying it but we will if it's mean we be in a 3 year embargo.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:08 pm

Warnock doesnt like to buy in january it's been said many times

Do we need strengthening ? Hell yeah

Can we get decent loans in I beg to differ on that and think we may struggle

If we get banned from signings for 3 transfer windows the club can kiss my arse the likely hood is we pay up on the deadline and still look like we dont have any morals !!

Strip as much as we can january play on what we got and settle in the championship and give the team an easy ride and play a few development boys even if people think there not up to standard.

We are not fighting for promotion it was clear from the start of the season so just support as usual what we got and have fun

:bluescarf: :bluebird: :ayatollah:

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:22 pm

We will spend otherwise what was said at the end of last season was pretty hollow doing a burnley etc a togetherness from all,
bobby reids transfer fee coming from fulham will take care of most of the sala affair, the only thing that makes me think that not a lot will be spent unless bamba has been pushed forward as manager is that neil is retiring so would they give neil a big chunk of money to spend on neils type of player.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:46 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?



Chelsea were banned for 2 windows they are appealing 2nd window ban thats the January one they didn't appeal 1st window ban ...we are not appealing a ban so Chelsea case no bearing on us :old:

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:49 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:I very much doubt it, especially if the Sala situation is Still ongoing.
Even if there was funding available, would it be wise to allow NW to spend it?


Please don’t give a penny to Neil in January. It will mean even more of his dead wood for the new regime to move out in the summer

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:55 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?



Chelsea were banned for 2 windows they are appealing 2nd window ban thats the January one they didn't appeal 1st window ban ...we are not appealing a ban so Chelsea case no bearing on us ..
City have not lodged appeal they've got 10 more days to do so if they appeal fifa will probably hold off any action until appeal is concluded :old:

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:24 pm

I would hope not, enough money has been wasted the last few years. Unless we are challanging top 2 which seems unliekly then just loans and funds to be kept for the next manager.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?



Chelsea were banned for 2 windows they are appealing 2nd window ban thats the January one they didn't appeal 1st window ban ...we are not appealing a ban so Chelsea case no bearing on us ..
City have not lodged appeal they've got 10 more days to do so if they appeal fifa will probably hold off any action until appeal is concluded :old:



FIFA is the world governing body for football and CAS is an independent body. they are different things Allen..
Chelsea lodged their appeal against a 2 window transfer ban back in July...so where this will probably hold off any action comes from I don't know...they cant really be treating clubs differently and if they were to, do you really think we would be the favoured club ?
if it were a case of appealing to FIFA I would understand your logic.. but we have been down the FIFA route and their decision was pay up or get sanctioned.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:40 pm

dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?



Chelsea were banned for 2 windows they are appealing 2nd window ban thats the January one they didn't appeal 1st window ban ...we are not appealing a ban so Chelsea case no bearing on us ..
City have not lodged appeal they've got 10 more days to do so if they appeal fifa will probably hold off any action until appeal is concluded :old:



FIFA is the world governing body for football and CAS is an independent body. they are different things Allen..
Chelsea lodged their appeal against a 2 window transfer ban back in July...so where this will probably hold off any action comes from I don't know...they cant really be treating clubs differently and if they were to, do you really think we would be the favoured club ?
if it were a case of appealing to FIFA I would understand your logic.. but we have been down the FIFA route and their decision was pay up or get sanctioned.



Chelsea appealed the initial ban to fifa which they rejected! Chelsea did not ask fifa to suspend ban while they went to CAS hence ban went ahead, That's why ban was not suspended! :thumbup: Chelsea have now gone to CAS to appeal 2nd window ban, which will be heared before January window starts....hope this explains things

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:52 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:I very much doubt it, especially if the Sala situation is Still ongoing.
Even if there was funding available, would it be wise to allow NW to spend it?


I dont think so. Club must have bagged around 200 million since promotion if you consider the 160 from sky plus full houses, merchandise, sponsorship etc...let’s hope we get something back for Murphy aswell as the cash for Reid. I guess madine and glatzel are right offs

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:54 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?



Chelsea were banned for 2 windows they are appealing 2nd window ban thats the January one they didn't appeal 1st window ban ...we are not appealing a ban so Chelsea case no bearing on us ..
City have not lodged appeal they've got 10 more days to do so if they appeal fifa will probably hold off any action until appeal is concluded :old:



FIFA is the world governing body for football and CAS is an independent body. they are different things Allen..
Chelsea lodged their appeal against a 2 window transfer ban back in July...so where this will probably hold off any action comes from I don't know...they cant really be treating clubs differently and if they were to, do you really think we would be the favoured club ?
if it were a case of appealing to FIFA I would understand your logic.. but we have been down the FIFA route and their decision was pay up or get sanctioned.



Chelsea appealed the initial ban to fifa which they rejected! Chelsea did not ask fifa to suspend ban while they went to CAS hence ban went ahead, That's why ban was not suspended! :thumbup: Chelsea have now gone to CAS to appeal 2nd window ban, which will be heared before January window starts....hope this explains things


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47500863

obviously I hope we are treated more favourably but im not holding my breath

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:56 pm

I cant see the club giving Warnock money to spend when he’s not going to be here next season. Potentially wasting money on players the next manager will not play. Warnock doesn’t exactly spend money well either. Loans seem the safest way to go but seems we struggle getting loans in. We definitely need strengthening though!

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:06 pm

God no, please don't give NW any money. As much as I love the guy, he's useless with cash. He over spends on either rubbish, or buys players which don't fit our style of play. No money for me. Sell first. Got a few players still on the books that don't even play

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:10 pm

Escott1927 wrote:I cant see the club giving Warnock money to spend when he’s not going to be here next season. Potentially wasting money on players the next manager will not play. Warnock doesn’t exactly spend money well either. Loans seem the safest way to go but seems we struggle getting loans in. We definitely need strengthening though!



depends really where we are in the league..

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:21 pm

dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:unless things change we are going to be under a transfer embargo mate.



Because we have appealed its suspended till out come :thumbright: :bluebird: Cardiff



no mate its not, Chelsea have appealed to CAS over their ban and its due to be heard on November 20th...the embargo stood through the summer window and is still in place.



But Cardiff have appealed the case with Nantes and so have not received a ban yet.



true, we haven't been banned yet but that's only for the 45 days FIFA have given us to pay the first instalment.. we have a choice pay or have sanctions off FIFA which will probably include a transfer embargo ? Chelseas CAS hearing has taken 5 months so I assume should we get a ban ,even if its overturned it would be until after the January window. ?



Chelsea were banned for 2 windows they are appealing 2nd window ban thats the January one they didn't appeal 1st window ban ...we are not appealing a ban so Chelsea case no bearing on us ..
City have not lodged appeal they've got 10 more days to do so if they appeal fifa will probably hold off any action until appeal is concluded :old:



FIFA is the world governing body for football and CAS is an independent body. they are different things Allen..
Chelsea lodged their appeal against a 2 window transfer ban back in July...so where this will probably hold off any action comes from I don't know...they cant really be treating clubs differently and if they were to, do you really think we would be the favoured club ?
if it were a case of appealing to FIFA I would understand your logic.. but we have been down the FIFA route and their decision was pay up or get sanctioned.



Chelsea appealed the initial ban to fifa which they rejected! Chelsea did not ask fifa to suspend ban while they went to CAS hence ban went ahead, That's why ban was not suspended! :thumbup: Chelsea have now gone to CAS to appeal 2nd window ban, which will be heared before January window starts....hope this explains things


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47500863

obviously I hope we are treated more favourably but im not holding my breath




Read your article but it does not give whole story?
The club did not request that the transfer ban be frozen for the summer after they lost appeal to fifa, so fifa did not suspend ban if they had appealed its likely the ban would been suspended until after CAS! also believe if we win fifa can go to CAS themselves! Read all this elsewhere but dont ask for link :laughing6: besides city are different like I said to Chelsea so until city appeal (got about 10 days) we won't know if fifa will suspend things until after CAS..

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:12 pm

I would say nearly all of that £160 million is already gone.

Around £80 million in transfer and agent fees

Approx £40mill wages and bonuses

Extra staff costs for premier league football

Extra policing costs

Probably only left with a profit of around £20 mill which will mainly go towards offsetting this seasons wages

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:06 am

We can't possibly give Sir Neil any significant funds to spend in January, even if we had it.

We must be one of the only clubs in the EFL without a loan player so wouldn't hold breath on that happening either.

Putting aside the detail, we must have £10 million less than we did in the aftermath of the Sala transfer but we've moved Reid on which would not have been expected.

If there isn't money it's because Sir Neil already spent it on Glatzel, Vassel, Flint and Vaulks not one of which is making us better.

If there is money I'd rather it be kept for new manager and content myself with mid table obscurity this season.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:40 am

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:We can't possibly give Sir Neil any significant funds to spend in January, even if we had it.

We must be one of the only clubs in the EFL without a loan player so wouldn't hold breath on that happening either.

Putting aside the detail, we must have £10 million less than we did in the aftermath of the Sala transfer but we've moved Reid on which would not have been expected.

If there isn't money it's because Sir Neil already spent it on Glatzel, Vassel, Flint and Vaulks not one of which is making us better.

If there is money I'd rather it be kept for new manager and content myself with mid table obscurity this season.




I think maybe Pack came in as a result of Reid leaving , both those moves came out of the blue very late..

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:00 am

dogfound wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:We can't possibly give Sir Neil any significant funds to spend in January, even if we had it.

We must be one of the only clubs in the EFL without a loan player so wouldn't hold breath on that happening either.

Putting aside the detail, we must have £10 million less than we did in the aftermath of the Sala transfer but we've moved Reid on which would not have been expected.

If there isn't money it's because Sir Neil already spent it on Glatzel, Vassel, Flint and Vaulks not one of which is making us better.

If there is money I'd rather it be kept for new manager and content myself with mid table obscurity this season.




I think maybe Pack came in as a result of Reid leaving , both those moves came out of the blue very late..


May well be. Though Pack an inferior replacement for Gunnar imo. And another cost to make January signings less likely. Can't spend the money twice. And Sir Neil has repeatedly said how good he thinks the squad is.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:01 am

Utterly crazy to give Warnock any money, he needs to offload some of the deadwood as he keeps saying about preparing for the next manager.

Still don't know why we didn't get Reid money upfront, ok if Fulham get promoted with £££s to spend but what if they don't as he hasn't actually set the place alight has he? So they might send him back!! Hope not mind.

Another who thinks he's superstar :roll:

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:17 am

JulesK wrote:Utterly crazy to give Warnock any money, he needs to offload some of the deadwood as he keeps saying about preparing for the next manager.

Still don't know why we didn't get Reid money upfront, ok if Fulham get promoted with £££s to spend but what if they don't as he hasn't actually set the place alight has he? So they might send him back!! Hope not mind.

Another who thinks he's superstar :roll:


I'd have him back here next season 100%. New manager and a new style of play (hopefully) that would suit him better and he would be much more effective. He did score 20 goals for Bristol the season we signed him so he is clearly a very good player.

Re: ‘ Have Cardiff got money to spend in January? ‘

Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:32 am

JulesK wrote:Utterly crazy to give Warnock any money, he needs to offload some of the deadwood as he keeps saying about preparing for the next manager.

Still don't know why we didn't get Reid money upfront, ok if Fulham get promoted with £££s to spend but what if they don't as he hasn't actually set the place alight has he? So they might send him back!! Hope not mind.

Another who thinks he's superstar :roll:



although officially a loan it did sound like a done deal. could well be its for FFP reasons but would imagine we have had a chunk of the money written in as loan fee..
might be barking up the wrong tree here but the original Reid rumour only a couple of days before he left was going back to Brisol {which made zero sense }. then abracadabra its Fulham and we have Pack.. possibly who ever started the rumour knew the pieces just got them in wrong order..?