POLL: HAS ROBERT GLATZEL BEEN A WASTE OF MONEY?

HAS THIS CARDIFF CITY PLAYER BEEN A WASTE OF MONEY? THE VERDICT
By Neil Rourke

This article is part of Football League World’s ‘The Verdict’ series, which provides personal opinions from the FLW writers regarding the latest breaking news, teams, players, managers, potential signings and more…


Neil Warnock’s final season in management is in danger of ending a bit flat if Cardiff City’s mixed form continues, with the Bluebirds in 14th place, without a win in four matches and nine points adrift of leaders West Brom.

One player who has struggled to make an impact in Warnock’s side is summer signing Robert Glatzel who has only managed two goals in 11 appearances, since arriving from FC Heidenheim for a reported £5.5 million.


Would you say from what you have seen so far, that Glatzel has been a waste of money?


We discuss………

Jacob Potter

“I wouldn’t say it’s been a waste of money as he needs to be given time.

“For any player that is coming over to English football for their first spell, they need time to adjust to their surroundings.

“Glatzel will know that he hasn’t been at his best for Cardiff, and he needs to step up and perform on a consistent basis at the earliest of opportunities.

“He doesn’t have a considerable amount of competition for his starting spot though, which will be a slight concern.

“It could lead to Glatzel thinking that he’s somewhat guaranteed a starting spot in Warnock’s squad, which is something that the Cardiff boss has to consider.”


Josh Cole

“When you consider that Cardiff paid a significant amount of money to secure Glatzel’s services this summer, it is fair to say that the forward has yet to justify his fee.

“Although the forward did illustrate glimmers of promise against the likes of Derby County and Hull City, a lack of consistency has hampered his efforts of becoming a key member of the Bluebirds’ squad.

“Having now gone four games without a goal in the Championship, it is imperative that Glatzel picks up his performance levels over the coming months.

“If he continues to struggle at the Cardiff City Stadium, the 25-year-old may be cut adrift my manager Neil Warnock who cannot afford to be carrying any passengers this season.”


George Harbey

“I would say that he has been a huge flop so far.

“Strikers are brought in to score goals, and after losing a proven goalscorer in the Championship in Bobby Reid in the summer, all eyes would have been on Glatzel to perform.

“But having only scored two goals in 11 games so far, his goalscoring record is hardly inspiring, and needs to make a better impact sooner rather than later.

“Questions should be asked about Warnock and his decisions to let Reid and Kenneth Zohore leave in the summer, without really replacing them properly.

“Glatzel needs to start picking up and fast.”

For me, way too early to say and needs time; but I think he can make the grade with the right service

Without a doubt so far yes, a total waste of money.

He is just not good enough plain and simple

The step up to the championship has been too much for him, he has had multiple good chances to score and blows all of them.

He needs to develope in the u23s squad for the rest of the season and then come back next season up to speed

Too too early to say for me.
He’s got little to no chance to shine under these tactics of hitting aimless balls and chasing lost causes.

It’s easy to see that he’s a decent footballer and under a team that actually ‘played’ football and built up attacks I think he would be good.
Under Warnock I think he’ll always struggle.

Where is the service we have no midfielders with any quality nobody to play him in.
You could play Mo Sala up front in our team and he would struggle

Where is the service we have no midfielders with any quality nobody to play him in.
You could play Mo Sala up front in our team and he would struggle

He has had loads of chances when he actually bothers to get himself in a position to score, nothing to do with the service to him

Where is the service we have no midfielders with any quality nobody to play him in.
You could play Mo Sala up front in our team and he would struggle

He has had loads of chances when he actually bothers to get himself in a position to score, nothing to do with the service to him

Does he? Getting a couple chances every couple of games or so is not like playing for man c and getting 5 chances each game is it? He had no chances Sunday probably one previous game ect ect did ward have chance Sunday nooooo and thats the problem for our strikers expecting them to score every chance get in a game is unrealistic even messi misses chances and doesn't score in every game so why expect glatzel or ward to be different?

For me, way too early to say and needs time; but I think he can make the grade with the right service

It's all about opinions of course, and I desperately want him to succeed, but I just can't see it. I dont think he has the basics. Is he going to get faster.....is he going to get stronger? Obviously not. He's not even proved to be a good finisher....and he's had some decent chances.

If the service isn’t there, Strikers stop working..

Where is the service we have no midfielders with any quality nobody to play him in.
You could play Mo Sala up front in our team and he would struggle

He has had loads of chances when he actually bothers to get himself in a position to score, nothing to do with the service to him

Does he? Getting a couple chances every couple of games or so is not like playing for man c and getting 5 chances each game is it? He had no chances Sunday probably one previous game ect ect did ward have chance Sunday nooooo and thats the problem for our strikers expecting them to score every chance get in a game is unrealistic even messi misses chances and doesn't score in every game so why expect glatzel or ward to be different?

Hes not getting the chances because hes not putting himself in the position to receive them and when he does he blows every chance he gets, he doesnt even look like scoring

When was the last time you saw him get the ball , pass it off and turn toward goal ?
He doesnt

When was the last time you saw him make a chance for himself ?
He hasn't

When was the last time you saw him in a position to contest for the second ball in the box when Morrison or Flint head it in?

He is a poor player and in reality should probably be 4th choice in our striker list

The way we play any striker would struggle to score,he doesn't look like a natural goal scorer so far though.

If Madine, Reid, and Glatzel are all crap, why were they signed..

My answer depends on whether we play to his strengths or not, if we don't play so that our strikers get more chances then yes he and any striker that we buy, will be a waste of money.
If we play to his strengths I think he could be great

TOO EARLY TO SAY ?

I doubt very much that whoever scouted him has watched him as much as some of us..

no he does not get on a plate chances and no forward will for us.
that does not excuse his all round game or his total lack of awareness on the field.
apart from the chances he has missed { and he has missed a few } he cant head the ball , yes he can jump high, and yes it hits his head..thats not heading the ball at this level. he tries to beat players by turning into them no matter how often it fails , cannot spot a run or a pass.. causes defences zero problems when they are in possession.
but worse of the lot , runs into channels our other players are already running into, the worse example being the pass to Bennett he intercepted which in effect put joe in on goal {shef weds game } .it stood out like a sore thumb that game im sure ralls had to change his mind on optimum pass 4/5 times because glatzel was now running towards the intended pass for someone else and dragging a defender with him..
playing him has cost us and will continue to...

I would have said too early but 5.5m on a striker is a lot of money to have to wait on him to come good, and he has been poor this season imo. Maybe under a different manager he'd have more goals and perhaps he might come good in 6-12 months but he's being kept out of the team by Danny Ward who's movement and finishing is better from what ive witnessed so far this season. I have to be honest I was expecting a lot better but looking at Warnock's past history with strikers I probably should have known better.

I like him and think he can come good. The problem is the way we play for strikers rather than them.

I guess the question of is he a waste of money though id say yes as we already have so many strikers

4 defeats in 14 games = sack a manager that's been great for us

12 rubbish performances = its too early to tell, he needs 6-12 months so percevere.

mental

btw not one person has said what his attributes are ….wishful thinking ?

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To be fair, it's not just Glatzel. Just about everyone Warnock has signed for a fee has been a waste of money. Reid, Murphy, Madine, Ward, Tomlin, Cunningham , Flint, Vaulks, Bacuna, Vassell, Bogle, Whyte. But I think Smithies is good, but underused, he must come back in on Saturday surely? Also Pack and Paterson are OK.

Without a doubt so far yes, a total waste of money.

As bad as madine....I guess 10 million wasted is chicken feed these days

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

What a load of drivel

3 chances he should score but didnt is a possible difference of 9 points. That would put us joint top with West Brom.
He does have a good touch but then either loses the ball or misplaces a pass. He is quick for his size but so was Zahore and certainly not quick enough to outrun defenders.

1 of his goals was a penalty so he has only scored 1 goal from open play in 14 games that will give him a average of 4 goals in a season. Madine averages 8 goals a season so double Glatzel.

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

What a load of drivel

3 chances he should score but didnt is a possible difference of 9 points. That would put us joint top with West Brom.
He does have a good touch but then either loses the ball or misplaces a pass. He is quick for his size but so was Zahore and certainly not quick enough to outrun defenders.

1 of his goals was a penalty so he has only scored 1 goal from open play in 14 games that will give him a average of 4 goals in a season. Madine averages 8 goals a season so double Glatzel.

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all ive read is wishful thinking..
no he is not fast enough to out pace a defender....or strong enough to out muscle them or tricky enough to bamboozle them...
but as said my biggest grump is how he plays without the ball which is 99% of the time.... he just is not in sinc at this level..

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

I agree with most of this. He would suit a different style of play.

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

I agree with most of this. He would suit a different style of play.

yep...Heidenheims

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

I agree with most of this. He would suit a different style of play.

yep...Heidenheims

Yep Heidenheim and several other championship clubs I suspect.

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

I agree with most of this. He would suit a different style of play.

yep...Heidenheims

Yep Heidenheim and several other championship clubs I suspect.

this fellas next move wont be this level and he wouldn't be getting picked if not for the price tag..
I didn't criticise him until now but it was glaring from day 1...he gives us nothing with the ball but his reading of the game is the worse ive seen since we were in the basement...Revel and Doyle were not good enough but at least didn't get in the way...

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

What a load of drivel

3 chances he should score but didnt is a possible difference of 9 points. That would put us joint top with West Brom.
He does have a good touch but then either loses the ball or misplaces a pass. He is quick for his size but so was Zahore and certainly not quick enough to outrun defenders.

1 of his goals was a penalty so he has only scored 1 goal from open play in 14 games that will give him a average of 4 goals in a season. Madine averages 8 goals a season so double Glatzel.

Opinion not drivel.

Since when have penalties not counted ? Madine couldn’t even put his on target !!

Glatzel has scored 48 goals in the last 3 seasons.

I can’t believe that you’re seriously saying that Glatzel has cost us 9 points !! I guess his 2 goals had no reflection on the respective results !!??

Have your own opinion but don’t dismiss others as drivel particularly when you’re trying to claim that Madine is more effective because just makes you look stupid !!

Complete waste of money for me. Two questions for you, Who is our forward scout, sanctioning these signings?
Does the manager ever watch closely before signing?

Galtzel didn't have ONE touch in the Swansea 18 yard box in 55 minutes last week. He runs the channels
our wide players are in too often, and is never a natural goalscorer championship level, in a
million years.

Saleh in our side would score goals as he would make the runs needed to open up defences. Bogel
is by far the better option along with Ward, as we saw from his cameo role last Sunday.

Leave the German out he's had his chance !!

Too early for me.

He has good touch, is quick for a big man and plays others in. The problem is he's better with the ball on the floor which makes you wonder whether Warnock actually watched him before signing him because he certainly hasn't designed a team to play with him.

By my calculations he's only missed three chances that come into the category of "should score" and there lies the problems.

Anyone comparing him negatively with Madine are mad. Firstly he's actually scored 2 in double quick time compared to Madine who has managed a big fat zero !! Secondly, his attitude seems spot on and does have a good work ethic.

I would agree that he has to improve, particularly in the air, but he is certainly not one that looks like he'll never make it e.g. Cornelius or Madine.

What a load of drivel

3 chances he should score but didnt is a possible difference of 9 points. That would put us joint top with West Brom.
He does have a good touch but then either loses the ball or misplaces a pass. He is quick for his size but so was Zahore and certainly not quick enough to outrun defenders.

1 of his goals was a penalty so he has only scored 1 goal from open play in 14 games that will give him a average of 4 goals in a season. Madine averages 8 goals a season so double Glatzel.

Opinion not drivel.

Since when have penalties not counted ? Madine couldn’t even put his on target !!

Glatzel has scored 48 goals in the last 3 seasons.

I can’t believe that you’re seriously saying that Glatzel has cost us 9 points !! I guess his 2 goals had no reflection on the respective results !!??

Have your own opinion but don’t dismiss others as drivel particularly when you’re trying to claim that Madine is more effective because just makes you look stupid !!

What I'm saying is in tight games those glaring chances he has missed can be the difference between 1 point and 3 points. If your not bothered about a striker missing those type of chances we may aswell play someone who didnt cost £5.5million
His price tag was paid to take those chances and win us points not miss them like all the others could have done .

Glatzel scored those goals in a league equivalent to league 2 over here , not exactly a decent comparison, we could have signed a Newport striker for a fraction and got the same quality player