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You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:07 pm

I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.

You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:10 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.

You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.


I have to say, you nailed it on the head there!

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:43 pm

Xenonbluebird wrote:
welsh-dragon-days wrote:I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.

You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.


I have to say, you nailed it on the head there!


Don’t think I have seen a derby like it Xeno. If it was 5-0 I don’t think there could be any complaints.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:44 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.
You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.


Agree.
But you lot are shit too, otherwise you would have won more than 1-0.
Just look at your recent form under your 'new' manager.
We were awful but all is not rosy with you lot either.
Thats one home win in how many games?
We have problems and so do you and one win doesn't alter the fact that you are crap too!
Today i saw two awful teams in an awful derby. But one better than the other.
Cant see you lot being anywhere near top six come end of season.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Bluebird Always wrote:
Agree.
But you lot are shit too, otherwise you would have won more than 1-0.
Just look at your recent form under your 'new' manager.
We were awful but all is not rosy with you lot either.
Thats one home win in how many games?
We have problems and so do you and one win doesn't alter the fact that you are crap too!
Today i saw two awful teams in an awful derby. But one better than the other.
Cant see you lot being anywhere near top six come end of season.


Don’t be so soft, we were excellent and did exactly what was required and were roundly praised by the football pundids and ex professionals. My only complaint is we didn’t finish you off by a larger score, but that was due to the non competitive nature of the match I’m sure.

We are 4th, 2 points off top - and after a third of the season, fully deserve to be there. :thumbright:

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:53 pm

Can't argue with that, enjoy the win

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:56 pm

BAMBA CREW wrote:Can't argue with that, enjoy the win


Thanks, I’ll enjoy it Bamba, but won’t be gloating or poking fun.

Losing a derby is horrible, especially like today.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:16 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Can't argue with that, enjoy the win


Thanks, I’ll enjoy it Bamba, but won’t be gloating or poking fun.

Losing a derby is horrible, especially like today.


Good man

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:40 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.

You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.


I've always been quite fair and responsive to u in a decent way. But honestly mate do yourself a favour and either man up and show yourself who u really are or shut the f**k up and act like the worm that your showing yourself to be.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:44 pm

Gwent bluebird. How the f**k have you reacted like that to a measured and mature post?

Tell me one thing that's not true in what he said

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:49 pm

Spot on to be fair,that was shocking today,seemed like the players just didn’t care,no effort or fight in them,amazed it was only 1-0,it was a derby for god sake,teams are miles apart

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:05 pm

Agree with this.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:09 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.

You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.


Not easy to hear, especially from a jack but, I can't disagree with with your post, spot on.
We've been shambolic all season and some of our positive results have only papered over the cracks, as they weren't convincing performances.
I was wrong in wanting NW to stay for this season.
The club seem to love him though so who knows what lies ahead. Time will tell

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:11 pm

BAMBA CREW wrote:Gwent bluebird. How the f**k have you reacted like that to a measured and mature post?

Tell me one thing that's not true in what he said


Don't u find the last part a little patronising?

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:32 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Can't argue with that, enjoy the win


Thanks, I’ll enjoy it Bamba, but won’t be gloating or poking fun.

Losing a derby is horrible, especially like today.

Good response tbf mate :thumbup:

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:41 pm

gwentbluebirds wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Gwent bluebird. How the f**k have you reacted like that to a measured and mature post?

Tell me one thing that's not true in what he said


Don't u find the last part a little patronising?


I think emotions are just running high mate so we take anything badly. Apologies for swearing, no need.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:44 pm

welsh-dragon-days wrote:I was telling you this in pre season. You may not like what I say - but how anyone can be happy with the dross Warnock is serving up in this day and age is beyond me. Today was bizarre, it was like a training exercise, didn’t get out of first gear and towards the end we were queuing up to score and almost trying to walk it in. Amazed it only ended 1-0.

You need a new manager, a new approach and a clearout because the players you have are nowhere near good enough and are at the club to fit a style that is not fit for purpose. There doesn’t seem any direction to the play, it is literally just boot it up front and hope for the best. However when you have someone as inept as Glatzel up front - that is a thin thread of hope.

My advice is to be patient though. Once you get a new manager, things will take years to get right and there will be bumps in the road, it will be a long slog but it’ll be worth it. Yes we won, but I don’t want another derby like that, that was embarrassing and completely uncompetitive, it’s not how they should be and you guys should be furious.


I said the same in an earlier post. We Do need a change,,,, & sooner rather than later.
Hindsight being a wonderful thing, but perhaps we should have parted company end of last season, but there we go.
As for today’s performance, I’m trying to remember a worse Cardiff City display in fourty odd years, but I can’t.
You Jacks played the way I was expecting, but unfortunately we made you look better.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:49 pm

Swansea are no great shakes either, having not won in 4 home games. But they will not playa team in such bad form during the rest of the season. Cardiff were woeful today, we could not take any advantage of a Swansea team that defend poorly, but were were worse!! And we offered nothing up front. If Warnock had not decided to play 4-4-2 in this game only we may have competed better, but would have still been outplayed. Still it was only 1-0, their finishing was awful, and thankfully we put in some last ditch tackles. It can only get better. We were 4 points apart at the start of the game, and now it's 7 but if things don't change soon we will on a run of defeats which will put us further down the table.

This season's Championship is the worst in years, no consistency and no stand out team.....and we still look poor compared to most teams, 14th is about right at the moment.

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:17 pm

BAMBA CREW wrote:
gwentbluebirds wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Gwent bluebird. How the f**k have you reacted like that to a measured and mature post?

Tell me one thing that's not true in what he said


Don't u find the last part a little patronising?


I think emotions are just running high mate so we take anything badly. Apologies for swearing, no need.


All good :thumbup:

Re: You need a change - and fast

Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm

gwentbluebirds wrote:
I've always been quite fair and responsive to u in a decent way. But honestly mate do yourself a favour and either man up and show yourself who u really are or shut the f**k up and act like the worm that your showing yourself to be.


Calm down and take a breath you tart :lol:

I don’t think I have ever even noticed you tbh