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Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:29 pm

VINCE ALM:


Haven't posted much about Cardiff city performances in recent months as my positive attitude appears to upset the odd Cardiff fan

I'm not going to dress up last night performance as in my opinion it was a bad day in the office and we have had two performances this season that were poor, against reading where we got spanked and last night where we earned a draw and could have should have stolen all three.

The goal we conceded had more than its fair share of luck about it but there wasn't to many other chances created by Sheffield Wednesday apart from the Kadeem one that hit the crossbar, and a couple of tame shots straight down Etheridge throat.

The whole side struggled last not just individuals so it was disappointing when individual players were being singled out for abuse. there was a lack of quality in our play and direction. whether Warnock got the team selection right or not we can't say because every player was below par in their play in poor conditions I have to add. In Warnock defence he tried changing it early on by bringing on Danny Ward and putting two up top but the service was woeful, and had to have a rethink in the 2nd half when chances were not being created.

Joe Ralls is a player quite a few seem have taken a dislike to and cannot wait for him to slip up! he has been a loyal servant at the club for a long time and is still a young man at 26. Joe is a hard worker who always gives 100 per cent whether he is having a good game or not. However he is key to us doing well in this division, the season we went up we struggled when he wasn't in the team, we have struggled the last few games without his energy in midfield. This was his first game back after a couple of weeks and those of us who have played sport will know it is very rare you hit road running after a couple of weeks off with an injury especially at this level professional or not. Getting on his back will do his confidence no good at all and play into the oppositions arms. There is a lot I dislike about Liverpool support but one thing the knowledgeable die hards supporters do that is class, when a player of theirs is struggling rather than moan and get on the players back they sing his name to show they still support him and boost his confidence. perhaps we could try that for a change?

Josh Murphy another one who I believe is a confidence player and on his day unplayable suffers from the stick from the terraces he is another player we need to be his best slating from his own fans just makes him play worst.

Glatzel is really struggling with no service at all at times like last evening. I believe he can be the answer but if we carry on the way we are playing him his confidence will be shot. I would play Whyte and Tomlin every time for me, they can provide balls to Glatzel strength, the glimpses I have seen when those two have been on the pitch together putting the ball in the right places is enough to give me some confidence he can score goals. I think Whyte has a lot of potential but we need to be a patient with him, he has come up 2 divisions and is young so will be a tad inconsistent while he find his feet, so as frustrated has we get we still need to back him, his progress over the last two months has been exceptional in my opinion.

It was disappointing to hear booing in my opinion not the way to support your team, but you pay your money to be entertained and I suppose that is the way of venting your displeasure but it gives a lift to the opposition and the purpose of being a supporters is to support your side.

I see a lot of the Captain hindsights were out last night and today warnock hasn't a clue doesn't know what he is doing, crikey how many games has he managed? how many teams has he built? In support of him I think he realised he got it wrong last night and the subs he made were spot on.

I was disappointed in the end we didn't get all three points I wouldn't have said that half time, but we much the better side 2nd half not sure where Sheffield Wednesday are in the league i don't look at the table until Christmas, but they wasn't special either.

It was also an evening of strong winds heavy rain showers, difficult night to play football and judge crosses with those gusts swirling around the stadium.

We are doing okay overall after a relegation many sides slide straight through this league we are accumulating points which is all we need to do until January. have a look where we are in the table and then kick on from there. It wasn't a great performance but in the end we could have won it.

all ask try and keep off individual players backs contrary to what many supporters think our players always give everything and work hard even when they are lacking in quality the effort level is there.

Our style of football is not easy on the eye like other teams who pass it along the back four in their own half for 90 minutes, we are direct up and at them so we will get caught on the break during games, but on the whole we play some good stuff.

Keep a cool head and support the boys winter is coming :-)

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:40 pm

There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:41 pm

Remember the days when we use ot sing "We're crap and we know we are". No one took it serious then and it was a much better following.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:01 pm

nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.




Could put it that way but by same token harris shot at goal it went straight to their player who stuck out leg and guided it past wrong footed Etheridge ! He may have meant it but there again it wasnt meant as a pass to him was it? So that's where the luck bit comes in dont you think?

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:03 pm

2 performances that were poor ? if i didnt know who you were id think you hadnt been watching us this season

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:13 pm

casa gil wrote:2 performances that were poor ? if i didnt know who you were id think you hadnt been watching us this season



Could say every game we've been poor but the table or home form doesn't say that ? What are we basing performance on way we play or the possession football other teams play? Base it on opposition play and yes we are poor but that doesn't give you promotion we didnt
get promoted on possession football did we?... :|

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:23 pm

nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:26 pm

Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it



We thought it was own goal and only saw quick replay but think you'll find he stuck leg out as it came his way! Just fortunate it went straight at him..

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:39 pm

Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it

it wasnt an own goal

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:02 pm

casa gil wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it

it wasnt an own goal

just watched it again Flint stuck his leg out own goal have a look again

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:10 pm

I think the fans have had a gut full of this style of play. Everybody I speak to is critical of it, and a couple of lads with ST’s have started missing games, on a ‘ what’s the point’ basis.

It’s very hard to watch.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:49 pm

nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.



thought the same ,he didn't just throw a leg at it, he guided it ,wrong footing and giving Etheridge no chance in the process.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:53 pm

Igovernor wrote:
casa gil wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it

it wasnt an own goal

just watched it again Flint stuck his leg out own goal have a look again



Just looked again on sky (freeze framed) unfortunately whilst flint half heartedly stuck leg out it didnt touch him! But if he made any sort effort to get ball he would have blocked it .. :roll:

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:14 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.




Could put it that way but by same token harris shot at goal it went straight to their player who stuck out leg and guided it past wrong footed Etheridge ! He may have meant it but there again it wasnt meant as a pass to him was it? So that's where the luck bit comes in dont you think?

I agree. Their goal definitely had an element of luck. Kadeem's shot would have been easily saved but their defender stuck out a leg 6 yards in front of Etheridge deflecting the ball past him...he stood no chance.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:33 pm

Disagree with a lot of the original post by Vince. We pay our money and can share our feelings. I know this is a completely different example, but look at Ben Davies for Wales last week. We were absolutely terrible and the jeers and boos and moans from the Welsh fans spurred him forward and practically made the goal for Bale.

If we do not show our feelings during games and we keep playing dire football, our players will NOT react. As far as I can tell Cardiff fans booing salvaged us a draw. End of.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:59 pm

Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it



f**k me mate you've had a nightmare. The pundits talked about it for about 10 minutes after the game and showed the reply about 50 times. It was a great finish from bonner. No luck involved.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:02 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
casa gil wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it

it wasnt an own goal

just watched it again Flint stuck his leg out own goal have a look again



Just looked again on sky (freeze framed) unfortunately whilst flint half heartedly stuck leg out it didnt touch him! But if he made any sort effort to get ball he would have blocked it .. :roll:



More bollocks. The balls moving quick towars Flint who tried to block it but Bonner basically got there first, Flint had no chance. Bonner was in a good position and put a guided it into the net.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:11 pm

LeonSDC wrote:Disagree with a lot of the original post by Vince. We pay our money and can share our feelings. I know this is a completely different example, but look at Ben Davies for Wales last week. We were absolutely terrible and the jeers and boos and moans from the Welsh fans spurred him forward and practically made the goal for Bale.

If we do not show our feelings during games and we keep playing dire football, our players will NOT react. As far as I can tell Cardiff fans booing salvaged us a draw. End of.


Agree. Time some of them stepped up. If they are able. If they can't take a bit, and they are really not given very much, they shouldn't be in the entertainment industry.

Re: Vince Alm: “ Our fans booing / yes poor performance “

Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:54 pm

nubbsy wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
casa gil wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
nubbsy wrote:There was no luck about their goal. Harris hit it sweet toward goal and their player put a lovely touch on it with the intention of it hitting the back of the net.

What game were you watching, it was an own goal by Flint and there was every bit of luck going for them, Harris crossed it and it was going wide until Flint had the BAD luck to deflect it

it wasnt an own goal

just watched it again Flint stuck his leg out own goal have a look again



Just looked again on sky (freeze framed) unfortunately whilst flint half heartedly stuck leg out it didnt touch him! But if he made any sort effort to get ball he would have blocked it .. :roll:



More bollocks. The balls moving quick towars Flint who tried to block it but Bonner basically got there first, Flint had no chance. Bonner was in a good position and put a guided it into the net.


Agree with this.

When something is shown in slo mo it looks like he’s not making an effort. Flint was blocking the original shot from Harris (that was on target) then the striker deliberately flicked it. No way would Flint be able to block that unless he had the reflexes of a 20 odd year old me when I used to field at slip or close in on the offside and take some worldies.