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" Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:03 pm

Several yards offside and doing star jumps in front of the Wednesday goalkeeper for Tomlin's goal :lol:

Said in another topic that the referee was dreadful tonight.. But how did the assistant referee not put his flag up?? Clearly interfering with play.

Obviously we're not complaining, but we'd be livid if this happened against us...
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Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:06 pm

First time im happy there wasn't any VAR :lol:

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:17 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Several yards offside and doing star jumps in front of the Wednesday goalkeeper for Tomlin's goal :lol:



Said in another topic that the referee was dreadful tonight.. But how did the assistant referee not put his flag up?? Clearly interfering with play.

Obviously we're not complaining, but we'd be livid if this happened against us...



Wasn't he the the ref who ruled out Bamba's goal at Millwall 2 years ago. He stopped advantage being played as the ball entered the net.

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Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:44 pm

Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:11 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside



If that ain't offside then I'm not sure what is

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:14 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside

Definitely offside and definitely interfering with the goalkeeper's view. We were very lucky it wasn't disallowed.
Strange thing is that Warnock admitted after the game that they put Flint there to try and put the keeper off...unbelievable!! Imagine a brilliant goal like that being ruled out because of a deliberate offside and deliberate interference. Hope we stop with that tactic....we'd be lucky to get away with that one again.

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:33 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside



agree ,the ball doesn't go anywhere near Flint. dodgy tactic never the less

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:34 pm

moonboots wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside

Definitely offside and definitely interfering with the goalkeeper's view. We were very lucky it wasn't disallowed.
Strange thing is that Warnock admitted after the game that they put Flint there to try and put the keeper off...unbelievable!! Imagine a brilliant goal like that being ruled out because of a deliberate offside and deliberate interference. Hope we stop with that tactic....we'd be lucky to get away with that one again.



We won't get away with it again any ref lino looking at game will give offside in future....as for not in line of ball well it's not the ball flint is interfering with but the goalies eye line and that is offside ! Goalie complaining about
flint before kick even taken .
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Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 pm

When the ball was kicked Flint crouched down,so not in the keepers eyeline when ball was in play, (he was definitely putting keeper off before ball back in play though)

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
moonboots wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside

Definitely offside and definitely interfering with the goalkeeper's view. We were very lucky it wasn't disallowed.
Strange thing is that Warnock admitted after the game that they put Flint there to try and put the keeper off...unbelievable!! Imagine a brilliant goal like that being ruled out because of a deliberate offside and deliberate interference. Hope we stop with that tactic....we'd be lucky to get away with that one again.



We won't get away with it again any ref lino looking at game will give offside in future....as for not in line of ball well it's not the ball flint is interfering with but the goalies eye line and that is offside ! Goalie complaining about
flint before kick even taken .
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the goalie is not glued to his line mate, he can move ,and had he stepped two paces to his right the ref would probably have blown. how can you be interfering when your 3 yards from the line of the ball to goal ?

Re: " Aden Flint "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:15 pm

dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
moonboots wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside

Definitely offside and definitely interfering with the goalkeeper's view. We were very lucky it wasn't disallowed.
Strange thing is that Warnock admitted after the game that they put Flint there to try and put the keeper off...unbelievable!! Imagine a brilliant goal like that being ruled out because of a deliberate offside and deliberate interference. Hope we stop with that tactic....we'd be lucky to get away with that one again.



We won't get away with it again any ref lino looking at game will give offside in future....as for not in line of ball well it's not the ball flint is interfering with but the goalies eye line and that is offside ! Goalie complaining about
flint before kick even taken .
.



the goalie is not glued to his line mate, he can move ,and had he stepped two paces to his right the ref would probably have blown. how can you be interfering when your 3 yards from the line of the ball to goal ?



It's not the ball its the interfering with goalie thats what flint was doing ? Ball could been ten yards to flints right but if hes basically in front of goalie even ten yards away he is interfering with goalie! You say goalie not glued to line so what is he supposed to do move to his left and allow Tomlin to put ball into to goalies right Or move to his right then Tomlin puts ball to his left? Which is what the plan was undoubtedly and it worked! The clue is goalie should not have to move to see where ball is coming from because a player is in his eyesight?

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:49 am

Can only be offside once the ball is kicked and I’m sure the rules state something along the lines of have to be interfering with the play, as the ball is nowhere near flint it’s hard to deem him interfering with play under the actual rules

I agree though no one will get away with that again lol

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:50 am

Perfect star jumps though. Should be a PT!

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:54 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside



Are you serious lol. You couldn't get more interference or offside if he stood on the goal line

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:07 am

It's offside. End of. We won't get away with it again. If execution of free kick is as good as it was then it's unnecessary anyway. Waste of time repeating for one of Ralls free kick efforts unless we have Bamba on top of Flints shoulders! If it happened to us in reverse we would be raging.

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:49 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Can only be offside once the ball is kicked and I’m sure the rules state something along the lines of have to be interfering with the play, as the ball is nowhere near flint it’s hard to deem him interfering with play under the actual rules

I agree though no one will get away with that again lol




Dont you think a player standing 2 yards offside in middle of penalty area jumping up down waving his arms in air in front of goalie (all be it 5yrds away ) is not going to effect him? Answer is definitely yes and theres the reason for offside! Or if var in use can you see goal standing? :laughing6:

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:53 am

pembroke allan wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Can only be offside once the ball is kicked and I’m sure the rules state something along the lines of have to be interfering with the play, as the ball is nowhere near flint it’s hard to deem him interfering with play under the actual rules

I agree though no one will get away with that again lol




Dont you think a player standing 2 yards offside in middle of penalty area jumping up down waving his arms in air in front of goalie (all be it 5yrds away ) is not going to effect him? Answer is definitely yes and theres the reason for offside! Or if var in use can you see goal standing? :laughing6:


He’s not offside whilst jumping as you can only be offside once the whistle blows and the ball is kicked.
He’d stopped jumping by then and was ducked out of the way.

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:09 am

NIBluebird wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside



Are you serious lol. You couldn't get more interference or offside if he stood on the goal line



Don't be silly. He's 12 yards away doing star jumps while the game isn't even active

Re: " Aden Flint "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:16 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
NIBluebird wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Don’t think he can be offside as he’s nowhere near the line of the ball

Debatable as to whether it’s interferrence though and likely it would be disallowed for that reason but it’s not offside



Are you serious lol. You couldn't get more interference or offside if he stood on the goal line



Don't be silly. He's 12 yards away doing star jumps while the game isn't even active



Take look at picture Tomlin is aiming to kick ball in direction of flint!
Flint is basically inline with goalie doing star jumps 2yds offside? now can you say that is not going to interfere with goalie ? The aim of the manoeuvre is to unsight and put goalie off which is fine if you are onside but ffs he's 2yds offside!! Result was goalie steps slightly to his left to see where ball is and Tomlin then puts ball to keepers right. Perfect execution of plan... :laughing6: now you tell me var would not disallow goal for offside interfering with goalie? :thumbup:

Re: " Aden Flint "

Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:21 am

The goalie can move, flint is a good few feet from him, until new rules he is not interfering with play.

Re: " Aden Flint "

Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:53 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:It's offside. End of. We won't get away with it again. If execution of free kick is as good as it was then it's unnecessary anyway. Waste of time repeating for one of Ralls free kick efforts unless we have Bamba on top of Flints shoulders! If it happened to us in reverse we would be raging.


you are only offside now when you attempt to play ball or actually touch it, so you can stand in an offside position but will not be penalized if you don't do any of the two things i stated

Re: " Aden Flint "

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:26 pm

Igovernor wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:It's offside. End of. We won't get away with it again. If execution of free kick is as good as it was then it's unnecessary anyway. Waste of time repeating for one of Ralls free kick efforts unless we have Bamba on top of Flints shoulders! If it happened to us in reverse we would be raging.


you are only offside now when you attempt to play ball or actually touch it, so you can stand in an offside position but will not be penalized if you don't do any of the two things i stated



This is official new rules for offside
Scenario 1- Interfering with play
Scenario 2 - Interfering with an opponent
Scenario 3 - Gaining an advantage by being in that position...
now you tell me flint was not doing at least one or more of those things?

Re: " Aden Flint "

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:31 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:It's offside. End of. We won't get away with it again. If execution of free kick is as good as it was then it's unnecessary anyway. Waste of time repeating for one of Ralls free kick efforts unless we have Bamba on top of Flints shoulders! If it happened to us in reverse we would be raging.


you are only offside now when you attempt to play ball or actually touch it, so you can stand in an offside position but will not be penalized if you don't do any of the two things i stated



This is official new rules for offside
Scenario 1- Interfering with play
Scenario 2 - Interfering with an opponent
Scenario 3 - Gaining an advantage by being in that position...
now you tell me flint was not doing at least one or more of those things?


offside position.

Referee Graham Poll explains offside
As you can see above, that means that as the ball is played in, an attacker can stand in an offside position so long as they are NOT involved in active play in the three following scenarios.

Scenario 1- Interfering with play
Scenario 2 - Interfering with an opponent
Scenario 3 - Gaining an advantage by being in that position
Until either scenario occurs, the flag will stay down. Think this clears it up :thumbup:

Re: " Aden Flint "

Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm

:thumbup:

Re: " Aden Flint "

Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:29 pm

Igovernor wrote::thumbup:



Guv surprised no one else looked up the rules? :mrgreen: but shows how incompetent the officials were not to give it offside :laughing6:
Hope the fck NW doesn't plan to use it again... :roll: