' NEIL WARNOCK TO MOVE THESE 3 CITY PLAYERS OUT '

' NEIL WARNOCK TO MOVE THESE 3 CITY PLAYERS OUT '

Warnock looks like still wanting to move these players on in January.


By Glen Williams

Tuesday 15th October 2019




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' Gary Madine '

Warnock has admitted City tried to find the right suitor for Gary Madine in the summer, but it proved more difficult than first anticipated.

The Bluebirds just couldn't shift Madine, who has had a rotten time of it since his £6million move from Bolton in January 2018.

The striker has failed to score in any of his 21 appearances for the club and has featured just once in the league this season, the opening-day defeat away to Wigan.

So it appears the most likely option is for him to go out in January, whether that be on loan or permanently, in order to free up some funds.









' Omar Bogle '

City brought in Isaac Vassell from Birmingham in the summer and it looked as though it was going to spell the end for one of their strikers - but they all stayed.

There appears to be a slight imbalance at the club at present, with Warnock always opting for just one striker but with five senior ones to choose from.

If both Madine and Bogle, who appear to be the lowest in the pecking order, leave in January, it would still leave three senior strikers -Robert Glatzel, Danny Ward and Vassell - to battle it out for that one spot.






' Will Vaulks '

We know Will Vaulks has voiced his concerns to the manager in recent weeks, having played only 59 minutes of Championship football this term.

It is a big climb down for a man who was so central to Rotherham's plight last season, indeed donning the captain's armband for much of the campaign.

Many were excited when the midfielder signed at the beginning of the season, however there were equally as many sceptics – WalesOnline and South Wales Echo columnist Nathan Blake included .

Both Vaulks' pride and confidence will have taken a knock this season and it is not beyond the realms of doubt that he could seek football elsewhere, albeit on loan, in January.

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If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Just pure made up speculation..

Just pure made up speculation..

Actually I’ve read it all over and over and there is a lot of truth in the report.

If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Spot on. Great man manager, media man, personality, stabiliser, trouble shooter and motivator. Great qualities to have as the gaffer, his predecessor's lacked a lot of that.

However his transfer dealings overall have been poor and at times downright bizarre (Madine, Reid, Vaulks, Chamack, Feeney, Feltscher, Tomlin, Traore, J Ward etc etc)

If I was holding the purse strings, I would rather give it to a new man who can start rebuilding to his playing style and politely ask Neil to move upstairs until the season ends.

Every squad in the country is the same, eleven players getting a game, ten players like these mentioned who are good, just not good enough, and then a few youngsters or really shit back ups, this is a non story, we need them in case the better players get injured!

looks nailed on to me that vaulks will go back to Rotherham

If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Spot on. Great man manager, media man, personality, stabiliser, trouble shooter and motivator. Great qualities to have as the gaffer, his predecessor's lacked a lot of that.

However his transfer dealings overall have been poor and at times downright bizarre (Madine, Reid, Vaulks, Chamack, Feeney, Feltscher, Tomlin, Traore, J Ward etc etc)

If I was holding the purse strings, I would rather give it to a new man who can start rebuilding to his playing style and politely ask Neil to move upstairs until the season ends.

however...you could write a similar/more often longer and worse list for every single manager..
try comparing his dealings with others.. jeez..

If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Spot on. Great man manager, media man, personality, stabiliser, trouble shooter and motivator. Great qualities to have as the gaffer, his predecessor's lacked a lot of that.

However his transfer dealings overall have been poor and at times downright bizarre (Madine, Reid, Vaulks, Chamack, Feeney, Feltscher, Tomlin, Traore, J Ward etc etc)

If I was holding the purse strings, I would rather give it to a new man who can start rebuilding to his playing style and politely ask Neil to move upstairs until the season ends.

I actually tend to agree with most of this.

The squad is totally unbalanced and loads wasted on all these strikers. I think he’d out any of them (Except Glatzel) if he can in January.

What I don’t agree with is moving Warnock ‘upstairs’ as when/if the new manager comes in next season then I believe we need a change and a fresh start.

How many as Bogle scored ?

He seems to know where the goal is and finds it, same goes for Danny Ward. A bit harsh if these 2 leave.
Madine - needs to go. Valks needs to be given a chance, even though it's up to him to up his game to be better than what we already have

If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Spot on. Great man manager, media man, personality, stabiliser, trouble shooter and motivator. Great qualities to have as the gaffer, his predecessor's lacked a lot of that.

However his transfer dealings overall have been poor and at times downright bizarre (Madine, Reid, Vaulks, Chamack, Feeney, Feltscher, Tomlin, Traore, J Ward etc etc)

If I was holding the purse strings, I would rather give it to a new man who can start rebuilding to his playing style and politely ask Neil to move upstairs until the season ends.

Why not count his transfer positives?

Etheridge
Bamba
Flint
NML
Hoilett
Pack

Not to mention the players he improved significantly.

If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Spot on. Great man manager, media man, personality, stabiliser, trouble shooter and motivator. Great qualities to have as the gaffer, his predecessor's lacked a lot of that.

However his transfer dealings overall have been poor and at times downright bizarre (Madine, Reid, Vaulks, Chamack, Feeney, Feltscher, Tomlin, Traore, J Ward etc etc)

If I was holding the purse strings, I would rather give it to a new man who can start rebuilding to his playing style and politely ask Neil to move upstairs until the season ends.

Why not count his transfer positives?

Etheridge
Bamba
Flint
NML
Hoilett
Pack

Not to mention the players he improved significantly.

because if your going to take a swipe at any manager ,its the transfers that haven't quite worked out that are always the easiest target

If I was Tan, I certainly wouldn’t give Warnock any money this window for permanent transfers with his record, but save it for new Manager.I would however allow him two loans to add to squad and get rid of deadwood to provide money for these loans!

If I was Tan, I certainly wouldn’t give Warnock any money this window for permanent transfers with his record, but save it for new Manager.I would however allow him two loans to add to squad and get rid of deadwood to provide money for these loans!

If Tan did that can imagine how much shit Tan would get?

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

How many of NW’s signings have been paid off?

If any of this is true this once again brings up Warnock's track record of signing strikers. None of the strikers he has brought in have broken into double figures.

Spot on. Great man manager, media man, personality, stabiliser, trouble shooter and motivator. Great qualities to have as the gaffer, his predecessor's lacked a lot of that.

However his transfer dealings overall have been poor and at times downright bizarre (Madine, Reid, Vaulks, Chamack, Feeney, Feltscher, Tomlin, Traore, J Ward etc etc)

If I was holding the purse strings, I would rather give it to a new man who can start rebuilding to his playing style and politely ask Neil to move upstairs until the season ends.

Why not count his transfer positives?

Etheridge
Bamba
Flint
NML
Hoilett
Pack

Not to mention the players he improved significantly.

Not sure we can yet say Pack and Flint a success?

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

How many of NW’s signings have been paid off?

How many have been sold on for money? Just Zahore I think. Cunningham, Madine, Bogle, whilst Tomlin and Vaukes can't get a game and I don't believe Vassel would be figuring either. Damour another.

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

your not sure many championship clubs will have as many players brought in by etc etc....im sure your correct but the vast majority of those managers have been in situ for less than a year with only Lee Johnson having been in a job longer.
to be honest this ..wastes money line..makes us sound mickey mouse when looked at in comparison to what others have spent while achieving sweet FA.

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

your not sure many championship clubs will have as many players brought in by etc etc....im sure your correct but the vast majority of those managers have been in situ for less than a year with only Lee Johnson having been in a job longer.
to be honest this ..wastes money line..makes us sound mickey mouse when looked at in comparison to what others have spent while achieving sweet FA.

One of the benefits of sticking with a manager is minimising the player merry go round as unfancied players fall out of favour. It just doesn't seem to apply to us as our signings fall out of favour with the very manager that signs them.

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

your not sure many championship clubs will have as many players brought in by etc etc....im sure your correct but the vast majority of those managers have been in situ for less than a year with only Lee Johnson having been in a job longer.
to be honest this ..wastes money line..makes us sound mickey mouse when looked at in comparison to what others have spent while achieving sweet FA.

One of the benefits of sticking with a manager is minimising the player merry go round as unfancied players fall out of favour. It just doesn't seem to apply to us as our signings fall out of favour with the very manager that signs them.

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not really..are you saying long term managers don't buy players ? or don't buy mistakes ? take a look at how many Fergie signed and infact signed that did not work out...quite a few ended up here..even the very top guys make loads of mistakes in the market when able to go and sign what should be finished article players.
sorry but knocking NWs spending just does not hold water .
results exceed spending..and has done since his arrival.

Said at the time re Vaulks, think he just wanted his old club to get a few bob

There is no way Tan is going to give Sir Neil a January budget.

He says he is leaving at end of season and unless we are significantly better placed than mid table there is no way we will see investment.

The only chance of recruits will be within existing budget if some of the squads deadwood, and there is a fair bit of it, is moved on.

Its a reasonable point being made that other teams have players that don't play. However, I'm not sure many chamionship clubs will have as many players brought in by current manager nowhere near first team. A change in manager invariably brings players dropping out of favour and new ones coming in but our situation is that a large number of Sir Neils signings for £2,3,4 million pounds he then decides aren't good enough afterall. It should also, be pointed out that these players seem to be never sold on. We pay out and then they are moved on for free or when their contracts expire.

The successes are great and there have been some but the majority being flops can't be denied.

How many of NW’s signings have been paid off?

How many have been sold on for money? Just Zahore I think. Cunningham, Madine, Bogle, whilst Tomlin and Vaukes can't get a game and I don't believe Vassel would be figuring either. Damour another.

Zohore arrived before NW didn’t he? NW turned him into a player (albeit for a short period of time).

I agree some of the others may well leave for little or no money but won’t be paid off.