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UPDATED: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Tom Lawrence ‘

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:04 pm

UPDATED:


SKY NEWS:


30/09/2019


Richard Keogh will now be out of action for 15months.

Derby County footballers Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett have both been charged with drink driving.









UPDATED:


I’ve just been told they were not only drunk, they were popping pills etc before they were driving.


And I’ve also heard their recordings.


For me they are an utter disgrace the minute they drive their cars on public roads.

For me they put other people’s lives at risk and do deserve custodial sentences.Yes




BREAKING - Derby County footballers Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett have been charged with drink-driving.

They were arrested in Allestree at the scene of a crash shortly before midnight last night.

They'll appear at Southern Derbyshire Magistrates Court on Tuesday 15th October.





Richard Keogh suffered a serious knee injury in a car crash that saw Derby County team-mates Mason Bennett and Tom Lawrence charged with drink-driving. ... Lawrence, aged 25, and 23-year-old Bennett were arrested at the scene of the collision on the A6 near Allestree, Derby, shortly before midnight on Tuesday.



Apparently they were all drugged out and off their heads according to a video going around.
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Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:24 pm

Is that Keoghs knee?!

Jesus that's nasty. But he's equally culpable for getting in the car with them. He is old enough to know better

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:33 pm

welshrarebit wrote:Is that Keoghs knee?!

Jesus that's nasty. But he's equally culpable for getting in the car with them. He is old enough to know better



Yes and had to be speeding maybe racing each other to cause such damage to range rover? Throw book at them and really should be sacked but guessing as a club sanctioned event they won't.. :roll:

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:45 pm

BREAKING - Derby County footballers Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett have been charged with drink-driving.

They were arrested in Allestree at the scene of a crash shortly before midnight last night.

They'll appear at Southern Derbyshire Magistrates Court on Tuesday 15th October.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Richard Keogh suffered a serious knee injury in a car crash that saw Derby County team-mates Mason Bennett and Tom Lawrence charged with drink-driving. ... Lawrence, aged 25, and 23-year-old Bennett were arrested at the scene of the collision on the A6 near Allestree, Derby, shortly before midnight on Tuesday.



Apparently they were all drugged out and off their heads according to a video going around.



Looking at them screens hot captions,some prick quotes "don't speed if you have been drinking" what a moronic thing to say :banghead: don't know about drugged up,as surely they would have been charged with drug driving as well as drink driving :?: They all will get what they deserve,and rightly so,drink/drug driving kills many,many innocent people,and the law should make examples of them,I read yesterday that keogh says it was all his fault :roll: as club captain,he should have stopped both of them from driving in the 1st place, especially as derby had laid on transport for Al, to use :banghead: have 0 sympathy for any of them,cannot see the club sticking by them either, I'm just glad no innocent people were hurt,due to the decisions made by three morons :old: :bluebird:

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:52 pm

This happened Tuesday night after a team-building dinner, where they carried on drinking after it had finished.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:58 pm

Word is Keough May have career ending injury and the other 2 Derby players are facing the sack from professional football. Complete tossers :bluebird:

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:59 pm

Really really stupid, apprentpy racing each other from what I've read.

Why do some footballers think they can do what they want, hope the book is thrown at them. Offered cars home from the club after team building but decided to drink more and act like idiots.

Isn't Keogh captain of the club? Out for the season and just as much to blame.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:22 pm

Derby message boards provide more info on this. Seemly videos circulating taken by Huddlestone.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:58 pm

If the drivers are not banned for life then its an utter disgrace. Should not even be a question if your caught drink driving you dont deserve to ever be given a licence again.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:21 pm

welshrarebit wrote:Is that Keoghs knee?!

Jesus that's nasty. But he's equally culpable for getting in the car with them. He is old enough to know better


Apparently, according to a ‘friend’ of the player, that’s not his knee and the injury is more of an ACL that is not career threatening.

No idea if that’s true but what a pair bunch of pricks. They even had a club car laid on for them but decided to drive!

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:26 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
welshrarebit wrote:Is that Keoghs knee?!

Jesus that's nasty. But he's equally culpable for getting in the car with them. He is old enough to know better


Apparently, according to a ‘friend’ of the player, that’s not his knee and the injury is more of an ACL that is not career threatening.

No idea if that’s true but what a pair bunch of pricks. They even had a club car laid on for them but decided to drive!


He wouldn't be wearing Sondico sports shorts on a night out surely?

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:27 pm

f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:32 pm

phildavies wrote:If the drivers are not banned for life then its an utter disgrace. Should not even be a question if your caught drink driving you dont deserve to ever be given a licence again.


That’s not going to happen.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:07 pm

RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


I've never drunk drive and no plans on doing so, such a selfish act, could easily have killed someone as clearly totally out of control.

Video of one or the drivers throwing up in the toilet before hand and the club's even put taxis on for them.

I certainly judge them and think they are scum for it. Could have killed a member of anyone's family, doubt you would be as relaxed about it then.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:16 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


I've never drunk drive and no plans on doing so, such a selfish act, could easily have killed someone as clearly totally out of control.

Video of one or the drivers throwing up in the toilet before hand and the club's even put taxis on for them.

I certainly judge them and think they are scum for it. Could have killed a member of anyone's family, doubt you would be as relaxed about it then.


You shouldn't really assume things should you, I have lost a family member in a car accident but it was caused by somebody speeding as opposed to drink driving and I don't think he's 'scum', as much as I wish I could change it and I'm never going to be his mate I accept he made a mistake, same as the Derby boys, except they havnt killed anyone.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:21 pm

RV Casual wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


I've never drunk drive and no plans on doing so, such a selfish act, could easily have killed someone as clearly totally out of control.

Video of one or the drivers throwing up in the toilet before hand and the club's even put taxis on for them.

I certainly judge them and think they are scum for it. Could have killed a member of anyone's family, doubt you would be as relaxed about it then.


You shouldn't really assume things should you, I have lost a family member in a car accident but it was caused by somebody speeding as opposed to drink driving and I don't think he's 'scum', as much as I wish I could change it and I'm never going to be his mate I accept he made a mistake, same as the Derby boys, except they havnt killed anyone.



RV, you simply can not defend drinking and driving. They deserve everything that comes their way and in all honesty it should be jail and education not to reoffend

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:22 pm

RV Casual wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


I've never drunk drive and no plans on doing so, such a selfish act, could easily have killed someone as clearly totally out of control.

Video of one or the drivers throwing up in the toilet before hand and the club's even put taxis on for them.

I certainly judge them and think they are scum for it. Could have killed a member of anyone's family, doubt you would be as relaxed about it then.


You shouldn't really assume things should you, I have lost a family member in a car accident but it was caused by somebody speeding as opposed to drink driving and I don't think he's 'scum', as much as I wish I could change it and I'm never going to be his mate I accept he made a mistake, same as the Derby boys, except they havnt killed anyone.


I certainly don't class getting drunk and driving as a mistake, more arrogance. Its never even crossed my mind to get in a car after drinking and I'm not sure why anyone would think its acceptable.

We will have to say we have totally different views on this.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:25 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


I've never drunk drive and no plans on doing so, such a selfish act, could easily have killed someone as clearly totally out of control.

Video of one or the drivers throwing up in the toilet before hand and the club's even put taxis on for them.

I certainly judge them and think they are scum for it. Could have killed a member of anyone's family, doubt you would be as relaxed about it then.


You shouldn't really assume things should you, I have lost a family member in a car accident but it was caused by somebody speeding as opposed to drink driving and I don't think he's 'scum', as much as I wish I could change it and I'm never going to be his mate I accept he made a mistake, same as the Derby boys, except they havnt killed anyone.



RV, you simply can not defend drinking and driving. They deserve everything that comes their way and in all honesty it should be jail and education not to reoffend


For clarity, I'm not defending it.

I'm just saying some of the comments of 'banned for life', 'sacked' etc are ott imo.

It's a stupid thing to do, no getting away from it.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:23 pm

RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


Its not a mistake it idiotic selfish behaviour that puts other people at risk if your caught drink driving you should be banned for life. The current laws are pathetic on this matter. At the end of the day it a crime where their is nobody to blame but yourself for being so selfish in thinking its okay to put other people at risk.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:34 pm

phildavies wrote:
RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


Its not a mistake it idiotic selfish behaviour that puts other people at risk if your caught drink driving you should be banned for life. The current laws are pathetic on this matter. At the end of the day it a crime where their is nobody to blame but yourself for being so selfish in thinking its okay to put other people at risk.


For clarity, you also believe that anyone caught speeding or using a mobile phone should also be banned for life yeah, equally as idiotic and putting other people at risk.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:40 pm

I’ve just been told they were not only drunk, they were popping pills etc before they were driving.


And I’ve also heard their recordings.


For me they are an utter disgrace the minute they drive their cars on public roads.

For me they put other people’s lives at risk and do deserve custodial sentences.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:24 pm

Kangaroo court

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:54 pm

sack the 3 of them and keogh captain what a joke he is do the right thing dcfc get rid

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:29 pm

The "ordinary" man in the street would get a custodial sentence for this. Don't see why it would be different for these guys.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:46 pm

Cars will soon be fitted with scanners to test whether drivers are over the limit or not.
The sooner the better imo

They should all be banned from driving, prison is a bit harsh in this instance as nobody was hurt but they should have hefty community sentences handed down on them.
A big fine and 1000 hours unpaid community work would certainly hurt them.
I'm sure derby has loads of graffiti to remove and rubbish to pick up.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:26 pm

RV Casual wrote:
phildavies wrote:
RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


Its not a mistake it idiotic selfish behaviour that puts other people at risk if your caught drink driving you should be banned for life. The current laws are pathetic on this matter. At the end of the day it a crime where their is nobody to blame but yourself for being so selfish in thinking its okay to put other people at risk.


For clarity, you also believe that anyone caught speeding or using a mobile phone should also be banned for life yeah, equally as idiotic and putting other people at risk.


No not equally as idiotic alcohol is literally an intoxicating poison that you have chosen to consume and then think it’s okay to drive. Selfish disgusting behaviour from anybody who does it and they fully deserve to never have the privilege of driving again.

Using the phone is also idiotic and should be treated similarly.

Speeding is a bit different as the limit are variable and their are occasions where you may be caught going slightly over the limit without causing any danger to anybody( it also makes a lot of money hence why we have so many speed cameras about). If however your speeding results in an accident of course you should be banned and if it’s deemed you were so reckless that you can’t be trusted to drive again then yes you should have your license removed for life.

In summary alcohol consumption before driving is a much more serious and selfish offence than being caught going slightly over the speed limit.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:25 pm

RV Casual wrote:f*cking hell, there's some judgemental people on here aye.

I'm guessing we are all whiter than white yeah.

Everyone makes mistakes lads, you can't punish people on 'what iffs'.

Nobody died thankfully, they will be punished accordingly, but banned for life, sacked, have a day off.


I stand by what I say,all involved feeling they are above the law? It is crazy to say they made a" mistake" and before you have a go,my best friend of 50+ years was a hit and run victim,to a drug & drink driver,and now the poor man is in a permanent care home,requiring 24hr care for the rest of his days :banghead: the driver who was found guilty, received a minimum term of 8 years,but will only be in his late 30's when released,with all his life before him,my poor friend not so,only a muppet would consider it ok ,to get behind the wheel of a two tonne vehicle,and to drive,you seem pretty relaxed at this idiotic action :?: I stand by my words,I hope they throw the book at them sentence wise,and most people in normal life,coul well ,lose their employment over such incidents, they are looked up to,by the fans of the club,and they have let them down badly,to say the least.the CAPTAIN as well ffs :banghead: :old: :bluebird:

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:32 pm

They must have hit snow at speed to make a mess of a range rover like that.

Re: ‘ Shocking & Unbelievable Welsh International Tom Lawren

Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:22 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I’ve just been told they were not only drunk, they were popping pills etc before they were driving.


And I’ve also heard their recordings.


For me they are an utter disgrace the minute they drive their cars on public roads.

For me they put other people’s lives at risk and do deserve custodial sentences.


Agree