Brexit no deal good news?

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

Yes but remainers dont believe it?

Thankfully, after this week's shenanigans, it seems like the Supreme Court already has plenty of judicial power.

Do you show a passport every time you come and go from the UK. Yes? Well that is the border issued sorted then too, as everyone else has to as well. We have ALWAYS had the ability to refuse entry to anyone, but have chosen not to implement it.

We have enough fish stocks, but many fisherman sold their quotas to EU boats...

What exactly are we going to sell in these fantastic sunlit trade deals? Apart from the NHS and any other publicly funded body. There is virtually no manufacturing left, all the big companies we have are already owned by global businesses. If anything we will lose more trade than gain unless of course you count tanking the pound as a fair and decent way to make a living.

So, saving £250 million per week will actually "gain" us the lack of freedom of movement, removal of workers rights and ability to work hassle free in 30 other countries, lowering of environmental and food standards, a flood of EU citizens leaving jobs such as nursing, farming & hospitality. Not forgetting the queues of lorries unable to get bring fresh food and medical supplies and a hard border in Ireland again and all the problems that will bring. Eventually, we will probably also use dollars as we become the 51st state, and where will our laws and sovereignty be then.

Well worth it for a £1 off a litre of whisky and some cheap fags

Thankfully, after this week's shenanigans, it seems like the Supreme Court already has plenty of judicial power.

Do you show a passport every time you come and go from the UK. Yes? Well that is the border issued sorted then too, as everyone else has to as well. We have ALWAYS had the ability to refuse entry to anyone, but have chosen not to implement it.

We have enough fish stocks, but many fisherman sold their quotas to EU boats...

What exactly are we going to sell in these fantastic sunlit trade deals? Apart from the NHS and any other publicly funded body. There is virtually no manufacturing left, all the big companies we have are already owned by global businesses. If anything we will lose more trade than gain unless of course you count tanking the pound as a fair and decent way to make a living.

So, saving £250 million per week will actually "gain" us the lack of freedom of movement, removal of workers rights and ability to work hassle free in 30 other countries, lowering of environmental and food standards, a flood of EU citizens leaving jobs such as nursing, farming & hospitality. Not forgetting the queues of lorries unable to get bring fresh food and medical supplies and a hard border in Ireland again and all the problems that will bring. Eventually, we will probably also use dollars as we become the 51st state, and where will our laws and sovereignty be then.

Well worth it for a £1 off a litre of whisky and some cheap fags

Dont forget it's a two way street and not just uk one way what cant go out can't also come in?
But fair play you've told us things we have never heared of before!!⁰

Thankfully, after this week's shenanigans, it seems like the Supreme Court already has plenty of judicial power.

Do you show a passport every time you come and go from the UK. Yes? Well that is the border issued sorted then too, as everyone else has to as well. We have ALWAYS had the ability to refuse entry to anyone, but have chosen not to implement it.

We have enough fish stocks, but many fisherman sold their quotas to EU boats...

What exactly are we going to sell in these fantastic sunlit trade deals? Apart from the NHS and any other publicly funded body. There is virtually no manufacturing left, all the big companies we have are already owned by global businesses. If anything we will lose more trade than gain unless of course you count tanking the pound as a fair and decent way to make a living.

So, saving £250 million per week will actually "gain" us the lack of freedom of movement, removal of workers rights and ability to work hassle free in 30 other countries, lowering of environmental and food standards, a flood of EU citizens leaving jobs such as nursing, farming & hospitality. Not forgetting the queues of lorries unable to get bring fresh food and medical supplies and a hard border in Ireland again and all the problems that will bring. Eventually, we will probably also use dollars as we become the 51st state, and where will our laws and sovereignty be then.

Well worth it for a £1 off a litre of whisky and some cheap fags

What a load of self loathing sh!te, why would environmental and food standards drop, why would workers rights be removed. This country has stated no hard border in Ireland and when dissident republicans murdered a young woman a few weeks ago that had nothing to do with Brexit. We’re not Angola or Guatemala were the 5thbiggest economy on the planet and absurd unfounded scare stories from Remainiacs, who wish to subvert the democratic will of the British people are becoming increasingly absurd . What’s your view on the CAP and it’s effect on Africa, or health tourism, open doors immigration on pay rates and social services, European army, Eurozone, unemployment particularly in Southern Europe or standardised tax rates.
The EU has been an unmitigated disaster from day one.

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

Yes but remainers dont fall for it?

Fixed it for you Alan

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

Yes but remainers dont fall for it?

Fixed it for you Alan

Thanks I think!

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

Yes but remainers dont fall for it?

Fixed it for you Alan

Shame cant fix your spelling?

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

Preaching to the converted Steve fully agree with your statement. My reply was pointing out that remain claims BREXIT is undeliverable in the way it was promised during 2016 referendum campaign and that leavers were not told of the possible consequences is completely untrue.

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

Preaching to the converted Steve fully agree with your statement. My reply was pointing out that remain claims BREXIT is undeliverable in the way it was promised during 2016 referendum campaign and that leavers were not told of the possible consequences is completely untrue.

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

Preaching to the converted Steve fully agree with your statement. My reply was pointing out that remain claims BREXIT is undeliverable in the way it was promised during 2016 referendum campaign and that leavers were not told of the possible consequences is completely untrue.

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

Things are only as easy to do as it allowed to be by any parties? In this case it's the we dont want to leave under any circumstances group that as caused the problem! And let's get it right £350m wasnt going to nhs the slogan was it could have been used for nhs? Slight difference but important none the less.... as for EU army it wont have germans in it so wonder who will make up the troops/planes ect plus who will pay the budget for it Greece maybe Ireland? Dont think so!
No be usual suspects paying largest portion And besides what's nato for?

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

Preaching to the converted Steve fully agree with your statement. My reply was pointing out that remain claims BREXIT is undeliverable in the way it was promised during 2016 referendum campaign and that leavers were not told of the possible consequences is completely untrue.

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

Things are only as easy to do as it allowed to be by any parties? In this case it's the we dont want to leave under any circumstances group that as caused the problem! And let's get it right £350m wasnt going to nhs the slogan was it could have been used for nhs? Slight difference but important none the less.... as for EU army it wont have germans in it so wonder who will make up the troops/planes ect plus who will pay the budget for it Greece maybe Ireland? Dont think so!
No be usual suspects paying largest portion And besides what's nato for?

How many times do I have to provide the picture. Nowhere does it say ‘could’.

Even more ironic that it’s that tosspot presenting it considering him and his mates would love to sell off the NHS in nice chunks to the Americans

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So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

Preaching to the converted Steve fully agree with your statement. My reply was pointing out that remain claims BREXIT is undeliverable in the way it was promised during 2016 referendum campaign and that leavers were not told of the possible consequences is completely untrue.

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

Things are only as easy to do as it allowed to be by any parties? In this case it's the we dont want to leave under any circumstances group that as caused the problem! And let's get it right £350m wasnt going to nhs the slogan was it could have been used for nhs? Slight difference but important none the less.... as for EU army it wont have germans in it so wonder who will make up the troops/planes ect plus who will pay the budget for it Greece maybe Ireland? Dont think so!
No be usual suspects paying largest portion And besides what's nato for?

How many times do I have to provide the picture. Nowhere does it say ‘could’.

Even more ironic that it’s that tosspot presenting it considering him and his mates would love to sell off the NHS in nice chunks to the Americans

Don't see anything in that photo stating £350m going to the NHS. If they put every good cause that the money could have gone towards, a bus would be way too small. The NHS was the most emotive issue at the time, probably still is. I voted out but I like to think I was not gullible enough to think for one minute that every single penny saved would be spent entirely on the NHS and none of the other good causes in desperate need of funds.

So, I suppose in the sunlit uplands, the government is wrong to publish its own data stating that that food and medical shortages should be anticipated and that the cost of everything will increase and will the poorest the hardest and we should implement the democratic will of some of the British people whatever the consequences; the Brexit promised in the referendum was undeliverable and those proposing it knew it. I guess its all just project fear to those in the know, but I know who I would trust more with my food hygiene etc and it ain't President Gas or the charlatans that make up this government.

Of course there are issues and nobody said the EU is perfect, but we have the best possible deal in my very humble opinion and the best way to change things is always from the inside. We do also have vetos just like the one that we used for not joining the Euro. And whilst I can't claim to know too much of the detail, perhaps you could explain exactly why would a European army be a bad thing;? our military is being cut to the bare bone and isn't it proposed that it would work alongside NATO?

Please enlighten me as I am genuinely interested in why these issues are good reason to tank our currency, risk falling standards in our quality of life and lose our standing in the world order even when we know the likely outcome of a no deal?

During the referendum campaign I clearly remember Michael Grove and others stating in TV debates that if we left the EU (Deal or No deal) there would be 'bumps in the road' but things would quickly return to normal. Therefore we were made aware that it wouldn't be a 'seamless' transition but still a majority of the electorate voted to leave the EU. That makes the remain argument about the temporary food shortages (and that would be SOME FRESH FOODS ONLY) and price rises redundant because it was explained and admitted in 2016. Any fall in the pound, economy or world standing as you put it would be temporary at worst and could even not happen at all providing no deal preparations have been effective.

As Jock has pointed out why would food hygiene fall if we left the EU? All food packaging carries information about food ingredients so it would be a matter of personal choice if you ate for example a curry containing chlorinated Chicken. Put it is way you might not eat it but I would so why should your preferences override someone else who might be happy to eat it?

As for a European Army would you be comfortable with say a French General ordering British troops into a battleground to protect French interests? An EU Army would be completely unworkable as there would be too many internal divisions and agendas.

Again your whole post is a form of project fear.

The government published data as to what would happen almost immediately in the event of a "yes" vote. Hardly any of their predictions came close to being correct, why should they be correct this time when they were so wrong last time.

Preaching to the converted Steve fully agree with your statement. My reply was pointing out that remain claims BREXIT is undeliverable in the way it was promised during 2016 referendum campaign and that leavers were not told of the possible consequences is completely untrue.

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

Things are only as easy to do as it allowed to be by any parties? In this case it's the we dont want to leave under any circumstances group that as caused the problem! And let's get it right £350m wasnt going to nhs the slogan was it could have been used for nhs? Slight difference but important none the less.... as for EU army it wont have germans in it so wonder who will make up the troops/planes ect plus who will pay the budget for it Greece maybe Ireland? Dont think so!
No be usual suspects paying largest portion And besides what's nato for?

How many times do I have to provide the picture. Nowhere does it say ‘could’.

Even more ironic that it’s that tosspot presenting it considering him and his mates would love to sell off the NHS in nice chunks to the Americans

Ok let's be pedantic it does not say will spend 350m on NHS ? Says let's fund nhs instead of giving 350m EU interprete anyway you like as it could mean fund other services like schools ect ?
And we already sell nhs bits to EU and foreign companies! eg dyalisis is sold off to the germans sure other bits are sold off if take look closely... and we already have private ins companies providing care in nhs hospitals ..

Thankfully, after this week's shenanigans, it seems like the Supreme Court already has plenty of judicial power.

Do you show a passport every time you come and go from the UK. Yes? Well that is the border issued sorted then too, as everyone else has to as well. We have ALWAYS had the ability to refuse entry to anyone, but have chosen not to implement it.

We have enough fish stocks, but many fisherman sold their quotas to EU boats...

What exactly are we going to sell in these fantastic sunlit trade deals? Apart from the NHS and any other publicly funded body. There is virtually no manufacturing left, all the big companies we have are already owned by global businesses. If anything we will lose more trade than gain unless of course you count tanking the pound as a fair and decent way to make a living.

So, saving £250 million per week will actually "gain" us the lack of freedom of movement, removal of workers rights and ability to work hassle free in 30 other countries, lowering of environmental and food standards, a flood of EU citizens leaving jobs such as nursing, farming & hospitality. Not forgetting the queues of lorries unable to get bring fresh food and medical supplies and a hard border in Ireland again and all the problems that will bring. Eventually, we will probably also use dollars as we become the 51st state, and where will our laws and sovereignty be then.

Well worth it for a £1 off a litre of whisky and some cheap fags

What a load of self loathing sh!te, why would environmental and food standards drop, why would workers rights be removed. This country has stated no hard border in Ireland and when dissident republicans murdered a young woman a few weeks ago that had nothing to do with Brexit. We’re not Angola or Guatemala were the 5thbiggest economy on the planet and absurd unfounded scare stories from Remainiacs, who wish to subvert the democratic will of the British people are becoming increasingly absurd . What’s your view on the CAP and it’s effect on Africa, or health tourism, open doors immigration on pay rates and social services, European army, Eurozone, unemployment particularly in Southern Europe or standardised tax rates.
The EU has been an unmitigated disaster from day one.[/quote

Why would standards drop? The EU has some of the ‘toughest’ standards in the world to protect consumers - in needing to secure trade deals with other countries, one of the inevitable trade offs is that we will have to lower our standards in order to let other countries products in, if we want to sell ours to them. My business creates and sell products in the EU, Asia and US and that standards of protection here for consumers is certainly miles ahead of the US - the core partner we will absolutely need.

As for the democratic will of the people - when only 17m people in a country of c60m voted to leave, to deliver the vote yes is the democratic route, but it’s hardly the ‘will of the people’.

As someone who voted remain, I believe the vote should be carried through based on the campaign that was run I.e. a deal - however the current outcome is SO far removed from what Johnson, Gove and Farage claimed was possible (it never was), that I think it is absolutely right our politicians to challenge what is ultimately being driven by a Tory civil war.

Thankfully, after this week's shenanigans, it seems like the Supreme Court already has plenty of judicial power.

Do you show a passport every time you come and go from the UK. Yes? Well that is the border issued sorted then too, as everyone else has to as well. We have ALWAYS had the ability to refuse entry to anyone, but have chosen not to implement it.

We have enough fish stocks, but many fisherman sold their quotas to EU boats...

What exactly are we going to sell in these fantastic sunlit trade deals? Apart from the NHS and any other publicly funded body. There is virtually no manufacturing left, all the big companies we have are already owned by global businesses. If anything we will lose more trade than gain unless of course you count tanking the pound as a fair and decent way to make a living.

So, saving £250 million per week will actually "gain" us the lack of freedom of movement, removal of workers rights and ability to work hassle free in 30 other countries, lowering of environmental and food standards, a flood of EU citizens leaving jobs such as nursing, farming & hospitality. Not forgetting the queues of lorries unable to get bring fresh food and medical supplies and a hard border in Ireland again and all the problems that will bring. Eventually, we will probably also use dollars as we become the 51st state, and where will our laws and sovereignty be then.

Well worth it for a £1 off a litre of whisky and some cheap fags

What a load of self loathing sh!te, why would environmental and food standards drop, why would workers rights be removed. This country has stated no hard border in Ireland and when dissident republicans murdered a young woman a few weeks ago that had nothing to do with Brexit. We’re not Angola or Guatemala were the 5thbiggest economy on the planet and absurd unfounded scare stories from Remainiacs, who wish to subvert the democratic will of the British people are becoming increasingly absurd . What’s your view on the CAP and it’s effect on Africa, or health tourism, open doors immigration on pay rates and social services, European army, Eurozone, unemployment particularly in Southern Europe or standardised tax rates.
The EU has been an unmitigated disaster from day one.[/quote

Why would standards drop? The EU has some of the ‘toughest’ standards in the world to protect consumers - in needing to secure trade deals with other countries, one of the inevitable trade offs is that we will have to lower our standards in order to let other countries products in, if we want to sell ours to them. My business creates and sell products in the EU, Asia and US and that standards of protection here for consumers is certainly miles ahead of the US - the core partner we will absolutely need.

As for the democratic will of the people - when only 17m people in a country of c60m voted to leave, to deliver the vote yes is the democratic route, but it’s hardly the ‘will of the people’.

As someone who voted remain, I believe the vote should be carried through based on the campaign that was run I.e. a deal - however the current outcome is SO far removed from what Johnson, Gove and Farage claimed was possible (it never was), that I think it is absolutely right our politicians to challenge what is ultimately being driven by a Tory civil war.

You are preaching to the unconverted as what you are saying may be correct but it sounds like all the other rhetoric about what could happen if leave EU all unproven! Politicians are not challenging anything they are fighting to stay in EU by any means possible bit like boris fighting to leave by any means possible? Cannot say one is worse than other unless only see one part of the argument...

New Deal ( idea ) To be announced in the next few days

New Deal ( idea ) To be announced in the next few days

Can't see it happening. The E.U. won't shift dramatically.
Boris has to deliver a true form of Brexit or Nigel Farage will split his vote and potentially finish the Tories at the GE. (Which isn't a bad thing in my view)
Except it will let Labour's communist nutter(Corbyn) into number 10 for 5 years.

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

Saving 250 million a week?! are you sure you are talking about Wales here? England may benefit from this but considering Wales is a net beneficiary from the EU you couldn't be further away from the truth.

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

Again you are taking what was said out of context. A free trade deal between the EU & UK should be relatively easy because having been members of the EEC/EU for 40+ years we already have the same regulative alignment and food standards as the EU.

The EU have been obstinate because the UK has been undermined by a remain biased Parliament. If they (the EU) had been more flexible a deal could have been agreed years ago but they have an agenda to keep the UK in the EU so they can plunder our treasury to pay for their vanity projects.

The bus was not fundamentally wrong. It said 'let's use' the money saved to fund the NHS. It is perfectly possible that by the time we leave the EU our contributions will be a net £350m p/w which could then be used to fund the NHS if we wanted to do that. Why you would want to spend this money else where in continental Europe rather than on our own people is baffling and maybe if you or a family member of yours needed urgent treatment you might have a different outlook.

Saving 250 million a week?! are you sure you are talking about Wales here? England may benefit from this but considering Wales is a net beneficiary from the EU you couldn't be further away from the truth.

Wales receives a whopping £350m per year in funding from the EU (although that is not a net figure). Sounds like a lot of money until you realise that Wales receives £16 BILLION form Westminster in the form of direct grants and partial tax raised in Wales.

The EU contribution amounts to 0.3% of the money the Welsh Government has available has to spend. The UK would save at least £12 billion per year on leaving the EU and if that money was reinvested into the NHS the Welsh Government would receive nearly an extra £1 Billion in funding, nearly 3 times what the generous EU give us now.

TBH EU funding in Wales is a bigger exaggeration than anything Boris could put on the side of a bus!

Saving 250 million a week?! are you sure you are talking about Wales here? England may benefit from this but considering Wales is a net beneficiary from the EU you couldn't be further away from the truth.

Wales receives a whopping £350m per year in funding from the EU (although that is not a net figure). Sounds like a lot of money until you realise that Wales receives £16 BILLION form Westminster in the form of direct grants and partial tax raised in Wales.

The EU contribution amounts to 0.3% of the money the Welsh Government has available has to spend. The UK would save at least £12 billion per year on leaving the EU and if that money was reinvested into the NHS the Welsh Government would receive nearly an extra £1 Billion in funding, nearly 3 times what the generous EU give us now.

TBH EU funding in Wales is a bigger exaggeration than anything Boris could put on the side of a bus!

So what is your point? We don't receive anything for any of the goods that we supply to both England & Europe? Are you sure we get 16 Billion from England?? Wales will be £743 worse off without EU money!! There is no guarantee that Westminster will spend the 'extra money saved' on Wales and more likely it will be spent propping up the the rest of England!

Saving 250 million a week?! are you sure you are talking about Wales here? England may benefit from this but considering Wales is a net beneficiary from the EU you couldn't be further away from the truth.

Wales receives a whopping £350m per year in funding from the EU (although that is not a net figure). Sounds like a lot of money until you realise that Wales receives £16 BILLION form Westminster in the form of direct grants and partial tax raised in Wales.

The EU contribution amounts to 0.3% of the money the Welsh Government has available has to spend. The UK would save at least £12 billion per year on leaving the EU and if that money was reinvested into the NHS the Welsh Government would receive nearly an extra £1 Billion in funding, nearly 3 times what the generous EU give us now.

TBH EU funding in Wales is a bigger exaggeration than anything Boris could put on the side of a bus!

So what is your point? We don't receive anything for any of the goods that we supply to both England & Europe? Are you sure we get 16 Billion from England?? Wales will be £743 per person worse off without EU money!! There is no guarantee that Westminster will spend the 'extra money saved' on Wales and more likely it will be spent propping up the the rest of England!

Really? So the deal was the easiest in history and was signed over a cup of tea and there really is £350 million per week for the NHS. And, we really do hold all the cards... As for the Euro Army, under NATO and UN command don't soldiers serve under different generals anyway? Anyway, lets hope we get three points today and continue to climb the table.

Again you are taking what was said out of context. A free trade deal between the EU & UK should be relatively easy because having been members of the EEC/EU for 40+ years we already have the same regulative alignment and food standards as the EU.

The EU have been obstinate because the UK has been undermined by a remain biased Parliament. If they (the EU) had been more flexible a deal could have been agreed years ago but they have an agenda to keep the UK in the EU so they can plunder our treasury to pay for their vanity projects.

The bus was not fundamentally wrong. It said 'let's use' the money saved to fund the NHS. It is perfectly possible that by the time we leave the EU our contributions will be a net £350m p/w which could then be used to fund the NHS if we wanted to do that. Why you would want to spend this money else where in continental Europe rather than on our own people is baffling and maybe if you or a family member of yours needed urgent treatment you might have a different outlook.

Why is it me taking things out of context? Johnson, Farrage et al LIED. Its plain and simple; them is the facts, no context needed. I'm afraid the usual Brexiteer excuses about how we didn't say that don't wash as it is clear for all to see.

The good news of a no deal Brexit? duty free will be returning in EU airports so cheap booze ect ect

No deal means a lot more good news than just that
Taking back our borders
Taking back our judicial services
Taking back our fishing borders
Controling our trade deals
£250 million saving a week on eu membership
I can go on but im sure youve beard it all before

Yes but remainers dont believe it?

Just as a matter of interest this chart shows you exactly the uk budget and the % spent on education, defence etc. In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure you'll agree the contribution sent to the EU doesn't look enormous does it???

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Saving 250 million a week?! are you sure you are talking about Wales here? England may benefit from this but considering Wales is a net beneficiary from the EU you couldn't be further away from the truth.

Wales receives a whopping £350m per year in funding from the EU (although that is not a net figure). Sounds like a lot of money until you realise that Wales receives £16 BILLION form Westminster in the form of direct grants and partial tax raised in Wales.

The EU contribution amounts to 0.3% of the money the Welsh Government has available has to spend. The UK would save at least £12 billion per year on leaving the EU and if that money was reinvested into the NHS the Welsh Government would receive nearly an extra £1 Billion in funding, nearly 3 times what the generous EU give us now.

TBH EU funding in Wales is a bigger exaggeration than anything Boris could put on the side of a bus!

Are you saying that £350m is 0.3% of £16billion?
Also, are you suggesting that if the British state will be £12 billion better off outside of Europe they would give Wales £1 billion. I stand to be corrected on the first point(too many zeros for me to work out). However I'm pretty sure Wales wouldn't get £1 billion....more like £600m based on population I believe.