It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

The EU is a busted flush and anyone who thinks this type of financial insanity is sustainable is mental.

LEAVE NOW !!!

Luxembourg WTF !! You can see why all these smaller countries want us to stay.

LEAVE NOW !!!

Luxembourg WTF !! You can see why all these smaller countries want us to stay.

How much does Wales get from the European Union though! That's what you have to look at really... No such thing as the 'UK' because all the money is given to England! Wales has always benefited from the EU. The EU has never been Wales' enemy and if anything it's stopped the English from giving us even less than they already do

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

Luxembourg (tax dodgers paradise) has a population of 600,000 (about 2 Cardiffs)
The UK is 66 million

The UK NET contribution to the EU is 18 billion Luxembourg NET contribution is 0.3 billion

The tail is wagging the dog here. I would also be really mad as well - if I was about to be 39 billion down on a deal as well.

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

You have your sums back to front. We have a trading deficit (which means a loss or negative amount) with the EU, of between £60 billion and £80 billion (depending on which figures are used). They need us far more than we need them.
We still have massive connections with the old Commonwealth (or Empire if you like) and others who are desperate to start trading freely with us again. Vast and/or profitable economies, like India, Africans, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

IDS is right to remind them, if you do not look at history you keep making the same mistakes.
East European countries are desperate for close links with the UK (and therefore NATO) to protect them from Russia.

The remoaners and the EU lied before the 2016 Referendum about there being no plans for a European army. It was always planned (and a EU police force).
Denmark and Estonia are refusing to join (it is rumoured) as they prefer their close links with us and NATO. Even Germany is getting worried as the EU army will become French controlled, and Germany will have to start fully contributing to its own defence for the first time in 60 years.
Our military and intelligence/security services are far better than anything the EU can or will muster.

The Luxembourg PM thought he was being clever (with the EU support) to humiliate Boris but it has massively back fired and even EU leaders are now back tracking, especially with IDS comments that have hit home in countries like Holland (Market Garden Operation 75th anniversary is on now).

Luxembourg (tax dodgers paradise) has a population of 600,000 (about 2 Cardiffs)
The UK is 66 million

The UK NET contribution to the EU is 18 billion Luxembourg NET contribution is 0.3 billion

The tail is wagging the dog here. I would also be really mad as well - if I was about to be 39 billion down on a deal as well.

I think that's the gross payment. After Thatcher's rebate and EU spending its a little under 10 million net cost. I don't think the EU are spending vast sums in Luxembourg on the sort of projects they contribute to elsewhere, although I don't know that for sure. Its just that they house a number of EU institutions, probably paying obscene salaries. Nice work if you can get it.

The EU budget will come under intense pressure in coming years. 6 countries with very low GDP about to join and the Italian economy in a terrible state. There must be a chance that Italy will default. A thriving economy when it entered the euro and now in a parlous state. That could well of been us if we hadn't crashed out of the ERM in 92.

On the subject of our payments to the European Union I assume they include the vat element. We pay typically 15 - 20% of all the vat collected in the European Union. I assume its in the figures but I've never been able to find confirmation of that.

Luxembourg (tax dodgers paradise) has a population of 600,000 (about 2 Cardiffs)
The UK is 66 million

The UK NET contribution to the EU is 18 billion Luxembourg NET contribution is 0.3 billion

The tail is wagging the dog here. I would also be really mad as well - if I was about to be 39 billion down on a deal as well.

So, if that is correct, that would mean that Luxemburg pay around £500 net per capita (or Euro) whilst the UK pays under £275 net per capita?

Not quite the same story for Wales in isolation though:

https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/view/327 ... 9-per-head

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

You have your sums back to front. We have a trading deficit (which means a loss or negative amount) with the EU, of between £60 billion and £80 billion (depending on which figures are used). They need us far more than we need them.
We still have massive connections with the old Commonwealth (or Empire if you like) and others who are desperate to start trading freely with us again. Vast and/or profitable economies, like India, Africans, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

IDS is right to remind them, if you do not look at history you keep making the same mistakes.
East European countries are desperate for close links with the UK (and therefore NATO) to protect them from Russia.

The remoaners and the EU lied before the 2016 Referendum about there being no plans for a European army. It was always planned (and a EU police force).
Denmark and Estonia are refusing to join (it is rumoured) as they prefer their close links with us and NATO. Even Germany is getting worried as the EU army will become French controlled, and Germany will have to start fully contributing to its own defence for the first time in 60 years.
Our military and intelligence/security services are far better than anything the EU can or will muster.

The Luxembourg PM thought he was being clever (with the EU support) to humiliate Boris but it has massively back fired and even EU leaders are now back tracking, especially with IDS comments that have hit home in countries like Holland (Market Garden Operation 75th anniversary is on now).

A disgusting childish stunt, just shows what the Eurocrat scum think of us.

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

You have your sums back to front. We have a trading deficit (which means a loss or negative amount) with the EU, of between £60 billion and £80 billion (depending on which figures are used). They need us far more than we need them.
We still have massive connections with the old Commonwealth (or Empire if you like) and others who are desperate to start trading freely with us again. Vast and/or profitable economies, like India, Africans, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

IDS is right to remind them, if you do not look at history you keep making the same mistakes.
East European countries are desperate for close links with the UK (and therefore NATO) to protect them from Russia.

The remoaners and the EU lied before the 2016 Referendum about there being no plans for a European army. It was always planned (and a EU police force).
Denmark and Estonia are refusing to join (it is rumoured) as they prefer their close links with us and NATO. Even Germany is getting worried as the EU army will become French controlled, and Germany will have to start fully contributing to its own defence for the first time in 60 years.
Our military and intelligence/security services are far better than anything the EU can or will muster.

The Luxembourg PM thought he was being clever (with the EU support) to humiliate Boris but it has massively back fired and even EU leaders are now back tracking, especially with IDS comments that have hit home in countries like Holland (Market Garden Operation 75th anniversary is on now).

A disgusting childish stunt, just shows what the Eurocrat scum think of us.

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

To go back to the EU army nonsense, we don't want it, we'd veto it so the only way of it ever happening is if we left. You're complaining about something which your actions are bringing. Not great is it?

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

You have your sums back to front. We have a trading deficit (which means a loss or negative amount) with the EU, of between £60 billion and £80 billion (depending on which figures are used). They need us far more than we need them.
We still have massive connections with the old Commonwealth (or Empire if you like) and others who are desperate to start trading freely with us again. Vast and/or profitable economies, like India, Africans, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

IDS is right to remind them, if you do not look at history you keep making the same mistakes.
East European countries are desperate for close links with the UK (and therefore NATO) to protect them from Russia.

The remoaners and the EU lied before the 2016 Referendum about there being no plans for a European army. It was always planned (and a EU police force).
Denmark and Estonia are refusing to join (it is rumoured) as they prefer their close links with us and NATO. Even Germany is getting worried as the EU army will become French controlled, and Germany will have to start fully contributing to its own defence for the first time in 60 years.
Our military and intelligence/security services are far better than anything the EU can or will muster.

The Luxembourg PM thought he was being clever (with the EU support) to humiliate Boris but it has massively back fired and even EU leaders are now back tracking, especially with IDS comments that have hit home in countries like Holland (Market Garden Operation 75th anniversary is on now).

A disgusting childish stunt, just shows what the Eurocrat scum think of us.

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

To go back to the EU army nonsense, we don't want it, we'd veto it so the only way of it ever happening is if we left. You're complaining about something which your actions are bringing. Not great is it?

So you believe that’s a respectful way to treat a foreign head of state. You think important political discussions should take place outside in front of a baying mob.

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

You have your sums back to front. We have a trading deficit (which means a loss or negative amount) with the EU, of between £60 billion and £80 billion (depending on which figures are used). They need us far more than we need them.
We still have massive connections with the old Commonwealth (or Empire if you like) and others who are desperate to start trading freely with us again. Vast and/or profitable economies, like India, Africans, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

IDS is right to remind them, if you do not look at history you keep making the same mistakes.
East European countries are desperate for close links with the UK (and therefore NATO) to protect them from Russia.

The remoaners and the EU lied before the 2016 Referendum about there being no plans for a European army. It was always planned (and a EU police force).
Denmark and Estonia are refusing to join (it is rumoured) as they prefer their close links with us and NATO. Even Germany is getting worried as the EU army will become French controlled, and Germany will have to start fully contributing to its own defence for the first time in 60 years.
Our military and intelligence/security services are far better than anything the EU can or will muster.

The Luxembourg PM thought he was being clever (with the EU support) to humiliate Boris but it has massively back fired and even EU leaders are now back tracking, especially with IDS comments that have hit home in countries like Holland (Market Garden Operation 75th anniversary is on now).

And Jackanory makes a comeback.

Boris is humiliating this country but the noose is tightening.

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A disgusting childish stunt, just shows what the Eurocrat scum think of us.

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

To go back to the EU army nonsense, we don't want it, we'd veto it so the only way of it ever happening is if we left. You're complaining about something which your actions are bringing. Not great is it?

So you believe that’s a respectful way to treat a foreign head of state. You think important political discussions should take place outside in front of a baying mob.

It was the press conference bit, they had the discussions inside.
Equally, do you think it was respectful for him just to leave and leave a head of state by himself?

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

You have your sums back to front. We have a trading deficit (which means a loss or negative amount) with the EU, of between £60 billion and £80 billion (depending on which figures are used). They need us far more than we need them.
We still have massive connections with the old Commonwealth (or Empire if you like) and others who are desperate to start trading freely with us again. Vast and/or profitable economies, like India, Africans, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

IDS is right to remind them, if you do not look at history you keep making the same mistakes.
East European countries are desperate for close links with the UK (and therefore NATO) to protect them from Russia.

The remoaners and the EU lied before the 2016 Referendum about there being no plans for a European army. It was always planned (and a EU police force).
Denmark and Estonia are refusing to join (it is rumoured) as they prefer their close links with us and NATO. Even Germany is getting worried as the EU army will become French controlled, and Germany will have to start fully contributing to its own defence for the first time in 60 years.
Our military and intelligence/security services are far better than anything the EU can or will muster.

The Luxembourg PM thought he was being clever (with the EU support) to humiliate Boris but it has massively back fired and even EU leaders are now back tracking, especially with IDS comments that have hit home in countries like Holland (Market Garden Operation 75th anniversary is on now).

A disgusting childish stunt, just shows what the Eurocrat scum think of us.

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

To go back to the EU army nonsense, we don't want it, we'd veto it so the only way of it ever happening is if we left. You're complaining about something which your actions are bringing. Not great is it?

The E.U. army will happen just like further integration into a federal Europe. Just a matter of time.
I'm beginning to think you didn't know what you voted for Josh.

Luxembourg (tax dodgers paradise) has a population of 600,000 (about 2 Cardiffs)
The UK is 66 million

The UK NET contribution to the EU is 18 billion Luxembourg NET contribution is 0.3 billion

The tail is wagging the dog here. I would also be really mad as well - if I was about to be 39 billion down on a deal as well.

I think that's the gross payment. After Thatcher's rebate and EU spending its a little under 10 million net cost. I don't think the EU are spending vast sums in Luxembourg on the sort of projects they contribute to elsewhere, although I don't know that for sure. Its just that they house a number of EU institutions, probably paying obscene salaries. Nice work if you can get it.

The EU budget will come under intense pressure in coming years. 6 countries with very low GDP about to join and the Italian economy in a terrible state. There must be a chance that Italy will default. A thriving economy when it entered the euro and now in a parlous state. That could well of been us if we hadn't crashed out of the ERM in 92.

On the subject of our payments to the European Union I assume they include the vat element. We pay typically 15 - 20% of all the vat collected in the European Union. I assume its in the figures but I've never been able to find confirmation of that.

Apologies Epping you are right https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7886
just under 10 billion for the UK where as , Luxembourg 0.3 billion.

Money talks - the more you put in the bigger say you should have - just like company share holders etc. People may try and wrap it up in e various % of GDP , per capita spending of people in Wales etc - but the cold fact of the matter is we send them NET 10 billion a year (that's after the rebate - where the EU decide to build a statue in ebbw vale etc).

PS - Im a fan of the EU in principle - just that it's not being run very well, or democratically in my opinion.
Add to that Bosnioa, Serbia, Kosove, Montenegro all set to join over the next 8 years, with unemployment rates at 25-32% , TTIP, joint defence force, EU on UN security council in place of the uk and france etc etc - and I see why people voted out.

The eu just needs to stick to a bit of trade, standards , members being able to control movement of people - and the UK would never have voted to leave.

ps - I dont think brexit will be sorted on Annis's msgboard

Luxembourg (tax dodgers paradise) has a population of 600,000 (about 2 Cardiffs)
The UK is 66 million

The UK NET contribution to the EU is 18 billion Luxembourg NET contribution is 0.3 billion

The tail is wagging the dog here. I would also be really mad as well - if I was about to be 39 billion down on a deal as well.

I think that's the gross payment. After Thatcher's rebate and EU spending its a little under 10 million net cost. I don't think the EU are spending vast sums in Luxembourg on the sort of projects they contribute to elsewhere, although I don't know that for sure. Its just that they house a number of EU institutions, probably paying obscene salaries. Nice work if you can get it.

The EU budget will come under intense pressure in coming years. 6 countries with very low GDP about to join and the Italian economy in a terrible state. There must be a chance that Italy will default. A thriving economy when it entered the euro and now in a parlous state. That could well of been us if we hadn't crashed out of the ERM in 92.

On the subject of our payments to the European Union I assume they include the vat element. We pay typically 15 - 20% of all the vat collected in the European Union. I assume its in the figures but I've never been able to find confirmation of that.

Apologies Epping you are right https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-7886
just under 10 billion for the UK where as , Luxembourg 0.3 billion.

Money talks - the more you put in the bigger say you should have - just like company share holders etc. People may try and wrap it up in e various % of GDP , per capita spending of people in Wales etc - but the cold fact of the matter is we send them NET 10 billion a year (that's after the rebate - where the EU decide to build a statue in ebbw vale etc).

PS - Im a fan of the EU in principle - just that it's not being run very well, or democratically in my opinion.
Add to that Bosnioa, Serbia, Kosove, Montenegro all set to join over the next 8 years, with unemployment rates at 25-32% , TTIP, joint defence force, EU on UN security council in place of the uk and france etc etc - and I see why people voted out.

The eu just needs to stick to a bit of trade, standards , members being able to control movement of people - and the UK would never have voted to leave.

ps - I dont think brexit will be sorted on Annis's msgboard

I don't think anyone has an issue with it as trading block in the form of the old common market but that's where it should stay in my opinion. Its the political ideology that wants greater and greater integration that in the end will be its undoing.

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

His speech would have been shouted down by losers on the left who despise democracy and working people.
People like you Josh. Was a low hand to play by a pseudo Frenchman, but it’s what we’ve come to expect.

Boris should have kicked him in the nuts..

Not quite the same story for Wales in isolation though:

https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/view/327 ... 9-per-head

Someone with a bit of sense then

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

His speech would have been shouted down by losers on the left who despise democracy and working people.
People like you Josh. Was a low hand to play by a pseudo Frenchman, but it’s what we’ve come to expect.

Boris should have kicked him in the nuts..

You're right, I hate democracy so much that I think we should get under 1% of people to vote for someone and then let him shut down parliament to get his own way. Oh wait.
Or maybe I think that asking a vague question 3 years ago which leads to a narrow decision probably shouldn't be the be all to end all which people can never change their minds about (and which was probably 90% lies and involved breaking the law)

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

His speech would have been shouted down by losers on the left who despise democracy and working people.
People like you Josh. Was a low hand to play by a pseudo Frenchman, but it’s what we’ve come to expect.

Boris should have kicked him in the nuts..

You're right, I hate democracy so much that I think we should get under 1% of people to vote for someone and then let him shut down parliament to get his own way. Oh wait.
Or maybe I think that asking a vague question 3 years ago which leads to a narrow decision probably shouldn't be the be all to end all which people can never change their minds about (and which was probably 90% lies and involved breaking the law)

Doesnt matter what question was or how vague it was the simple fact that you cannot accept is there was a democratic vote available to anyone over 18 in this country and the vote was leave!.... Thats democracy isn't it? As for suspension of parliament yes bit dodgy in its timing but what about those MPs ignoring their constituents who democratically voted them in as their mps? Those MPs have no respect for what constituents wanted and are using every tricky they can to block Brexit like bercows statement I will stretch the rules
to stop Brexit!! is that any different from boris doing what he did? Mmmmm think not

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

His speech would have been shouted down by losers on the left who despise democracy and working people.
People like you Josh. Was a low hand to play by a pseudo Frenchman, but it’s what we’ve come to expect.

Boris should have kicked him in the nuts..

You're right, I hate democracy so much that I think we should get under 1% of people to vote for someone and then let him shut down parliament to get his own way. Oh wait.
Or maybe I think that asking a vague question 3 years ago which leads to a narrow decision probably shouldn't be the be all to end all which people can never change their minds about (and which was probably 90% lies and involved breaking the law)

Doesnt matter what question was or how vague it was the simple fact that you cannot accept is there was a democratic vote available to anyone over 18 in this country and the vote was leave!.... Thats democracy isn't it? As for suspension of parliament yes bit dodgy in its timing but what about those MPs ignoring their constituents who democratically voted them in as their mps? Those MPs have no respect for what constituents wanted and are using every tricky they can to block Brexit like bercows statement I will stretch the rules
to stop Brexit!! is that any different from boris doing what he did? Mmmmm think not

I think it's more about the lies that were told about Brexit! Especially how it was going to affect Wales so badly

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

His speech would have been shouted down by losers on the left who despise democracy and working people.
People like you Josh. Was a low hand to play by a pseudo Frenchman, but it’s what we’ve come to expect.

Boris should have kicked him in the nuts..

You're right, I hate democracy so much that I think we should get under 1% of people to vote for someone and then let him shut down parliament to get his own way. Oh wait.
Or maybe I think that asking a vague question 3 years ago which leads to a narrow decision probably shouldn't be the be all to end all which people can never change their minds about (and which was probably 90% lies and involved breaking the law)

Doesnt matter what question was or how vague it was the simple fact that you cannot accept is there was a democratic vote available to anyone over 18 in this country and the vote was leave!.... Thats democracy isn't it? As for suspension of parliament yes bit dodgy in its timing but what about those MPs ignoring their constituents who democratically voted them in as their mps? Those MPs have no respect for what constituents wanted and are using every tricky they can to block Brexit like bercows statement I will stretch the rules
to stop Brexit!! is that any different from boris doing what he did? Mmmmm think not

I think it's more about the lies that were told about Brexit! Especially how it was going to affect Wales so badly

Both sides were very economical with truth thats for sure! And scaremongering was told on both sides and for people to say we only voted leave because of lies is wrong as people not as stupid as remainers making out...

It's okay for Luxembourg to moan about Brexit. They get £33 back for every £1 they put in, we get 38 pence for every £1 we give!!.

We make a massive trading profit compared to Luxembourg and most others.How desperate is IDS to remind them that we liberated them in the last war.One of the last dregs of the empire that's grizzling because that little countries PM dares to criticize and doesn't doff his cap.

Why do you keep repeating this mis-information? In 2018 the UK had a £68 billion deficit in trade with the EU (so that you understand) that is the EU sell £68 billion more in goods and services to us than we sell to them. In any line of business that is not a 'profit'

On top of that we send the EU £1 billion a month in contributions

To go back to the EU army nonsense, we don't want it, we'd veto it so the only way of it ever happening is if we left. You're complaining about something which your actions are bringing. Not great is it?

The UK can veto a European Army now but it is plain that eventually all veto's will be removed.

The coward Johnson runs away like a snowflake because some people booed him and yet people here say that bettel is 'scum' because he carried on. Get a grip.

His speech would have been shouted down by losers on the left who despise democracy and working people.
People like you Josh. Was a low hand to play by a pseudo Frenchman, but it’s what we’ve come to expect.

Boris should have kicked him in the nuts..

You're right, I hate democracy so much that I think we should get under 1% of people to vote for someone and then let him shut down parliament to get his own way. Oh wait.
Or maybe I think that asking a vague question 3 years ago which leads to a narrow decision probably shouldn't be the be all to end all which people can never change their minds about (and which was probably 90% lies and involved breaking the law)

Doesnt matter what question was or how vague it was the simple fact that you cannot accept is there was a democratic vote available to anyone over 18 in this country and the vote was leave!.... Thats democracy isn't it? As for suspension of parliament yes bit dodgy in its timing but what about those MPs ignoring their constituents who democratically voted them in as their mps? Those MPs have no respect for what constituents wanted and are using every tricky they can to block Brexit like bercows statement I will stretch the rules
to stop Brexit!! is that any different from boris doing what he did? Mmmmm think not

I think it's more about the lies that were told about Brexit! Especially how it was going to affect Wales so badly

Suppose you haven't read the newly released document by the Welsh government over their no deal brexit plans.
Personal highlights include 'a significant deterioration in public finances' which means higher taxes or cuts needed.
Stacking lorries on the a55 for port overflow.
Having to do preparation tests over publics response to lack of food
Plans to mitigate the risk of no water.
Counselling for farmers because farming in Wales will be f****ed
Although everyone who voted leave knew that they could go without food and water.....

I think it's more about the lies that were told about Brexit! Especially how it was going to affect Wales so badly

Last time I looked out the window WW3 hadn't broken out and there wasn't 800,000 people who had just lost their jobs due directly to voting for leave.

I first voted in 1983. Since then I have taken part in dozens' of elections General, European, Welsh Assembly, Council and Referendum.

It is normal for each side to exaggerate their own importance whilst spreading fear about the consequences of victory for their opponents. The EU referendum was no different and both sides were as bad as each other.

Suppose you haven't read the newly released document by the Welsh government over their no deal brexit plans.
Personal highlights include 'a significant deterioration in public finances' which means higher taxes or cuts needed.
Stacking lorries on the a55 for port overflow.
Having to do preparation tests over publics response to lack of food
Plans to mitigate the risk of no water.
Counselling for farmers because farming in Wales will be f****ed
Although everyone who voted leave knew that they could go without food and water.....

Do me a favour. Honestly do you really believe there is going to be a lack of food and water

Give it a rest

Suppose you haven't read the newly released document by the Welsh government over their no deal brexit plans.
Personal highlights include 'a significant deterioration in public finances' which means higher taxes or cuts needed.
Stacking lorries on the a55 for port overflow.
Having to do preparation tests over publics response to lack of food
Plans to mitigate the risk of no water.
Counselling for farmers because farming in Wales will be f****ed
Although everyone who voted leave knew that they could go without food and water.....

Do me a favour. Honestly do you really believe there is going to be a lack of food and water

Give it a rest

Mind blowing that some people actually believe we’ll all die of thirst post Brexit.