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Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:04 pm

Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:11 pm

wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:11 pm

we live in a parliamentary democracy, suspending parliament would be infinitely more undemocratic than remaining after a non legally binding referendum. :happy1: :happy1:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:14 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:we live in a parliamentary democracy, suspending parliament would be infinitely more undemocratic than remaining after a non legally binding referendum. :happy1: :happy1:

That old chesnut passed when parliament put leaving into law :lol:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:30 pm

wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Wouldn't cheer too soon Wez.There's a twist or two to be had yet.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:32 pm

Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:32 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Wouldn't cheer too soon Wez.There's a twist or two to be had yet.

Think you’re right

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:43 pm

Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


Quite right Jock, :thumbup: Everybody with half a brain can see that these MP's who say they are trying to stop a no deal brexit are lying through their back teeth, they are actually trying to stop brexit! they are putting two fingers up to the result of the referendum and in many cases their own constituents who heavily voted to leave. The ballot box in the coming general election will put pay to many of them. :thumbup:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:54 pm

Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:04 pm

Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.


Breshit/Remoaners, you're supposed to be adults but sound like f*cking retarded children, the lot of you need to get a grip

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:04 pm

Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


A fight between Internationalists and Little Englanders.
A fight between people living in the past and those who look to the future.
A fight between those who do not not believe in parliamentary democracy ( oh the irony) and those who do.

Time for interpretive dance Jock. It helps with flexibility. Who knows it may help get your head out your ass.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:07 pm

wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632



Good old Boris, caught Corbyn and Gove with their pants down :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:09 pm

cityone wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


Quite right Jock, :thumbup: Everybody with half a brain can see that these MP's who say they are trying to stop a no deal brexit are lying through their back teeth, they are actually trying to stop brexit! they are putting two fingers up to the result of the referendum and in many cases their own constituents who heavily voted to leave. The ballot box in the coming general election will put pay to many of them. :thumbup:



They have wasted three years playing their silly games, they offered a vote and should have accepted the decision, hopefully most of them will be on the dole in six months :thumbup:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:20 pm

Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


A fight between Internationalists and Little Englanders.
A fight between people living in the past and those who look to the future.
A fight between those who do not not believe in parliamentary democracy ( oh the irony) and those who do.

Time for interpretive dance Jock. It helps with flexibility. Who knows it may help get your head out your ass.



the referendum was democratically voted for by the people? So why are the democratically elected MPs ignoring the democratic will of the people? And are trying To stop Brexit anyway they can? Calling boris undemocratic is hypocrisy at it's best

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


A fight between Internationalists and Little Englanders.
A fight between people living in the past and those who look to the future.
A fight between those who do not not believe in parliamentary democracy ( oh the irony) and those who do.

Time for interpretive dance Jock. It helps with flexibility. Who knows it may help get your head out your ass.



the referendum was democratically voted for by the people? So why are the democratically elected MPs ignoring the democratic will of the people? And are trying To stop Brexit anyway they can? Calling boris undemocratic is hypocrisy at it's best

Totally agree , boris is following the result , the remainer mps are trying to force remain

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:26 pm

Bluebina wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632



Good old Boris, caught Corbyn and Gove with their pants down :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:



Sorry not Gove, I meant Grieve :thumbup:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:28 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



how can trying to prevent people who have proved themselves to be anti democratic time and time again an opportunity to scupper democracy be undemocratic ? those plotting are in no way democrates

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:44 pm

I think Boris has dropped a bollock here.Seems he's now totally alienated quite a few Tories.This current political situation is as much about the future of the Conservative Party as it is about Brexit.A couple of recent programmes fronted by Portillo was a real eye opener.Whatever happens about Brexit there's a real concern that the Tories will never again be able to come together.
It is now plain to me that the whole Brexit philosophy underpinned by the ERG section of the Tory party is driven by an ancient ideology and not necessarily whats best for this country.Most on here won't swallow it I know.

Hard hat on. :lol:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:46 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



Yes democracy a system of government which uses a voting system of who gets most votes win whether its a bill or confidence vote most votes win doesn't it? People vote in general election party/ person with most votes win ect ect Thats most peoples interpretation of democracy but obviously not yours or some MPs... :laughing6:

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:52 pm

In 2017, exactly a year after the referendum we had a general election in which 85% voted for parties who promised to honour the result of the referendum. Less than 15% voted for parties wanting to overturn the result. The fact we are in this position is a terrible indictment on those MP's who never had any intention of sticking by a manifesto commitment that went out in their name. THATS THE f*cking LIE IN ALL OF THIS. FRAUDS THE LOT OF THEM.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:52 pm

deadmouse wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



how can trying to prevent people who have proved themselves to be anti democratic time and time again an opportunity to scupper democracy be undemocratic ? those plotting are in no way democrates

Think you need to ask yourself how shutting down parliament because someone who not even 1% of the country voted for might not get his own way is in any way democratic.
If it was Corbyn doing this this forum would be up in arms, simple as

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:54 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:I think Boris has dropped a bollock here.Seems he's now totally alienated quite a few Tories.This current political situation is as much about the future of the Conservative Party as it is about Brexit.A couple of recent programmes fronted by Portillo was a real eye opener.Whatever happens about Brexit there's a real concern that the Tories will never again be able to come together.
It is now plain to me that the whole Brexit philosophy underpinned by the ERG section of the Tory party is driven by an ancient ideology and not necessarily whats best for this country.Most on here won't swallow it I know.

Hard hat on. :lol:

I dont think he has , it gives him time to get a new deal back to parliment without the remianers sabotaging talks ,the language from the eu has totally change since the g7 summit talk of a new deal happening , i can see a canada style deal being brought back from the summit in october

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:55 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
deadmouse wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



how can trying to prevent people who have proved themselves to be anti democratic time and time again an opportunity to scupper democracy be undemocratic ? those plotting are in no way democrates

Think you need to ask yourself how shutting down parliament because someone who not even 1% of the country voted for might not get his own way is in any way democratic.
If it was Corbyn doing this this forum would be up in arms, simple as

80% of voters voted for parties that said we would be leaving the eu in the last election , boris has a massive mandate to get it done

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:00 pm

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:we live in a parliamentary democracy, suspending parliament would be infinitely more undemocratic than remaining after a non legally binding referendum. :happy1: :happy1:


Funny how the brochure sent to every household in the UK never mentioned "non legally binding". I voted, but had I known this was simply an advisory exercise, I most certainly would have stayed at home rather than visit the Polling Station. If I was a betting person, I would wager that hardly anyone who cast a vote knew that this was a non legally binding referendum. I think most, like me, believed what was in the pamphlet sent by the government, as well as the fact we were told this was a once in a generation vote. This "advisory only" rubbish came out long after the remoaners lost, and is just one of numerous points that they keep throwing down our throats simply because they did not get the result they wanted.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:02 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



Yes democracy a system of government which uses a voting system of who gets most votes win whether its a bill or confidence vote most votes win doesn't it? People vote in general election party/ person with most votes win ect ect Thats most peoples interpretation of democracy but obviously not yours or some MPs... :laughing6:

I mean, that's not most people's interpretation of democracy as not every country uses the first past the post system (unless you think Australia, Portugal, Netherlands etc aren't democratic).
In the UK democracy is:
the belief in freedom and equality between people, or a system of government based on this belief, in which power is either held by elected representatives or directly by the people themselves

A democracy is a country in which power is held by elected representatives.
Surely even you can agree that shutting down parliament means our elected representatives won't have power. Therefore you have to agree that shutting down parliament means removing democracy.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:05 pm

wez1927 wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
deadmouse wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



how can trying to prevent people who have proved themselves to be anti democratic time and time again an opportunity to scupper democracy be undemocratic ? those plotting are in no way democrates

Think you need to ask yourself how shutting down parliament because someone who not even 1% of the country voted for might not get his own way is in any way democratic.
If it was Corbyn doing this this forum would be up in arms, simple as

80% of voters voted for parties that said we would be leaving the eu in the last election , boris has a massive mandate to get it done



All boris is doing is implementing referendum vote.. that is no more wrong than those trying to stop the referendum vote by hook or crook... like said hypocrisy at it's best from MPs bleating about boris decision

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:06 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
deadmouse wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



how can trying to prevent people who have proved themselves to be anti democratic time and time again an opportunity to scupper democracy be undemocratic ? those plotting are in no way democrates

Think you need to ask yourself how shutting down parliament because someone who not even 1% of the country voted for might not get his own way is in any way democratic.
If it was Corbyn doing this this forum would be up in arms, simple as



its not about how many voted for Boris its about how many wanted to leave. the majority.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:09 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:I think Boris has dropped a bollock here.Seems he's now totally alienated quite a few Tories.This current political situation is as much about the future of the Conservative Party as it is about Brexit.A couple of recent programmes fronted by Portillo was a real eye opener.Whatever happens about Brexit there's a real concern that the Tories will never again be able to come together.
It is now plain to me that the whole Brexit philosophy underpinned by the ERG section of the Tory party is driven by an ancient ideology and not necessarily whats best for this country.Most on here won't swallow it I know.

Hard hat on. :lol:



Ideology drives this on both sides. It was John Major's pro European ideology that took us into the disastrous ERM. It was pro European ideology that led to the fabricated dire financial predictions in the event we left the ERM.

That's history but the pro European ideology is not. We've been driven by pro European ideology since Thatcher was kicked out and if we end up staying in that's what will happen in the future.

We're no closer to knowing where we'll be in 10 years if decide to remain. Theres no f*cking remain deal telling us what's going to happen in the event that we stay in cause no fucker knows.

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:10 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:we live in a parliamentary democracy, suspending parliament would be infinitely more undemocratic than remaining after a non legally binding referendum. :happy1: :happy1:


Funny how the brochure sent to every household in the UK never mentioned "non legally binding". I voted, but had I known this was simply an advisory exercise, I most certainly would have stayed at home rather than visit the Polling Station. If I was a betting person, I would wager that hardly anyone who cast a vote knew that this was a non legally binding referendum. I think most, like me, believed what was in the pamphlet sent by the government, as well as the fact we were told this was a once in a generation vote. This "advisory only" rubbish came out long after the remoaners lost, and is just one of numerous points that they keep throwing down our throats simply because they did not get the result they wanted.

Sorry but the last bit is a lie
https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/
You can see papers from 2015 specifically stating that the government doesn't need to implement it. Just because every brochure didn't state it doesn't mean it's suddenly different.
Just because the government said they'd do it doesn't mean that they have to (as we all know through many years experience)

Re: Ot boris shutting down parliament

Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:13 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
deadmouse wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Good on boris ,you remoaners have been traitors to the uk , have collaborated with the eu and have tied the government's hands behind there backs in negotiations , hopefully a general election will be called after we leave and we can drain the remoaner swamp !

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632


Thanks for the Brexshitter Bollux. This is a fight to the end.

A fight between people who believe in democracy and treacherous Quislings.


It's a novel tactic by the 'people who believe in democracy' side by doing something which is the complete opposite of the definition of democracy (a system of government).

I've always found the traitor line odd, could someone explain how people have been traitors (with examples of course)?



how can trying to prevent people who have proved themselves to be anti democratic time and time again an opportunity to scupper democracy be undemocratic ? those plotting are in no way democrates

Think you need to ask yourself how shutting down parliament because someone who not even 1% of the country voted for might not get his own way is in any way democratic.
If it was Corbyn doing this this forum would be up in arms, simple as


Get over it you lost we voted to leave by any means :wave: