Are we missing character, personalities and fight?

I know its early days but it does t feel like a Cardiff team. It's been a bit of a transitional summer and much of the old guard has moved on. To me, there arent any characters or fight in the side any more. I'm not sure how to explain it any other way.

Were lacking a Kavanagh, Legg, Bothroyd, Medel, Gunnar sort of personality. Somewhat of a fans favourite.

I'm hoping something will be installed when Sol is back and I'm even thinking Bogle or Tomlin can offer some character back in the side. Not sure who else at the moment.

Anyone else get this feeling from the first 4 games?

Almost no fight.

Tend to agree with you We do seem to be lacking some fight and energy at this moment in time Don’t think we will get that from Tomlin or Bogle as their past shows they are more divisive than anything else
Think Sol will be the answer along with Pack Just something missing at the moment and Morrison seems to be quite as well
Just does not feel like the city we have got to know over the last few years

This team is missing bamba big time, also gunnar but hopefully pack can fill that void. But roll on bamba being fit and back at centre half

For me, apart from having an obvious physical presence Morrison is not really captain material- he isnt vocal enough with his team mates.
I thought Ralls showed some guts and drive last night and did well.
Tomlin - considering that was his first start in 2 years I think he more than proved himself. He created, linked play well in most areas of the pitch, even tracked back (which i know NW demands).
Tomlin was dangerous and a threat which is blatantly obvious what we need. He played a peach of a cross to Glatzel first half which should have been finished.
NW- hold your bollocks and give Tomlin game time home and away. He deserves his chance now after last night. If he plays each week his match fitness will be there and we will reap the benefits.
The guy is a character and has overcome mental demons. Trust him.

For me, apart from having an obvious physical presence Morrison is not really captain material- he isnt vocal enough with his team mates.
I thought Ralls showed some guts and drive last night and did well.
Tomlin - considering that was his first start in 2 years I think he more than proved himself. He created, linked play well in most areas of the pitch, even tracked back (which i know NW demands).
Tomlin was dangerous and a threat which is blatantly obvious what we need. He played a peach of a cross to Glatzel first half which should have been finished.
NW- hold your bollocks and give Tomlin game time home and away. He deserves his chance now after last night. If he plays each week his match fitness will be there and we will reap the benefits.
The guy is a character and has overcome mental demons. Trust him.

Interesting about Morrison and I used to agree but he has been captain at many clubs and I think the reason is his personality in and around the changing room which imo is probably more important than on the pitch where lets be honest every knows their jobs. His interviews and interaction on the pitch is nothing like his character off it which is interesting.

I know its early days but it does t feel like a Cardiff team. It's been a bit of a transitional summer and much of the old guard has moved on. To me, there arent any characters or fight in the side any more. I'm not sure how to explain it any other way.

Were lacking a Kavanagh, Legg, Bothroyd, Medel, Gunnar sort of personality. Somewhat of a fans favourite.

I'm hoping something will be installed when Sol is back and I'm even thinking Bogle or Tomlin can offer some character back in the side. Not sure who else at the moment.

Anyone else get this feeling from the first 4 games?

Almost no fight.

is Gunnar a fans favorite? not on here he wasnt

Marlon Pack was twice the player after one game apparently.

Not after he held the club to ransom last year.

In his first season on the run up to th CC final and after the euros he was fondly thought of.

Not after he held the club to ransom last year.

In his first season on the run up to th CC final and after the euros he was fondly thought of.

held the club to ransom?

I do agree on the point that you make Lamboy but don’t ruin it by that ridiculous comment about Gunner if was him you meant with the ransom thing.
He always gave 110% for the shirt and in the twilight of his career why shouldn’t he make a bit of money.
I watched the game on the TV ( I live on west of jack land and everything looked laboured.
Something has gone a bit adrift but if I need what I would be the next manager.
Onwards and upwards.

Maybe not to ransom but his commitment was questionable before we were promoted. Good servant to the club but only when it suited him in the later years. As I said he was fondly thought of at times during his tenure.

Pack Flint and Morrisson are all supposed to be characters but I agree at times there seems to be a bit of a lack of fight about us. Oddly what you might say about us is we need a character like Neil Warnock to manage us to give us a bit of bite.

A Paul Ramsey in Central Midfield

Well there was plenty of effort last night Sean Morrison is forever talking to his players on the field as are a good few others doing it so why the negativity after last night ffs

Although Sol will definitely provide the attributes mentioned in the title, it's quality on the ball that we miss most. I don't subscribe to the view that our direct style of football is not conducive to having ball playing midfielders. Providing they can tackle and read the game well, there is no reason why a player such as Ricki Scimeca back in the day could not dovetail with and enhance the current team.

NW can't be averse to these types of players, otherwise he wouldn't have got Camerasa last season.

Most on here recognise a really good player when they see one and likewise see lesser quality players and wonder what the hell NW sees in them.

Personally I would have kept Kadeem Harris, not bought Whyte or Nelson and shelled out on a proven midfielder in addition to Pack who does seem half decent.

We do seem to have a lot of injuries. It was always going to be tough before we sold Zohore and Manga and replaced them with inferior players. Everybody seemed to be on the back of Zohore yet he's much better than Glatzel. It shows how far we've dropped when everyone is calling for Bogle to come on! To fair Bogle does look the best of the strikers. I'm not convinced about Whyte, Nelson, Vaulks, Galtzel or Day. And we haven't seen much of Vassell yet.

But we currently have influential players like Etheridge, Pack, Bamba, NML out and injuries still to Richards and Connelly.

The influence of Bamba and Lack are missed most I think, but the spark Tomlin gave to the team last night was excellent.

As the previous poster saids we could do with an in form Tomlin and another creative midfielder too.

As for Harris he had plenty of chances over the years but only started 4 League game sin the last two seasons, and likes to ask for big money ton stay so not bothered about him going. I wish him well but he had to go.,

A lot of the characters and leaders were out of the side last night e.g Bamba, Pack and Patterson

We're only 4 matches in to the season - let's give the new players a run of games (Pack when he's recovered) and see how things look 10 or 12 games in.
Zohore better than Glatzel? Much too early to judge I think. I don't think Ken is exactly pulling up trees at WBA is he!?

Bamba and Paterson have those 3 qualities in abundance, we will be a much better team when the injured lads are back including Pack and Etheridge aswell

Yeah we do seem to be amissing a talisman at the momybut Pack and Bamba in the side could be something else....still miss a pain in the arse ...spikey player like Bellamy....who gets into his teammates and the opposition!

I know its early days but it does t feel like a Cardiff team. It's been a bit of a transitional summer and much of the old guard has moved on. To me, there arent any characters or fight in the side any more. I'm not sure how to explain it any other way.

Were lacking a Kavanagh, Legg, Bothroyd, Medel, Gunnar sort of personality. Somewhat of a fans favourite.

I'm hoping something will be installed when Sol is back and I'm even thinking Bogle or Tomlin can offer some character back in the side. Not sure who else at the moment.

Anyone else get this feeling from the first 4 games?

Almost no fight.

personally the memory of Sean Morrison running the length of the field to get on to that pass, turn a defender and burying the shot into the net then running to us fans equals any memories of those mentioned.Hull 0 SM2..

Glatzel v Zahore:

Work Rate: Glatzel (Runs hard at defenders, Zahore rarely did)
Creativity: Glatzel (Has created a few chances for himself with little possession, Zahore had a good 3 month spell 2 years ago)
Heading: Glatzel (Wins most 50/50 headers,Zahore didn't)
Shooting: Glatzel (Hits a powerful shot, Zahore didn't strike the ball well)
Time on feet: Glatzel (Not a contest)
Goals: Too early to judge Glatzel.

Not too worried at the moment that Glatzel hasn't scored. In my opinion he hasn't had much service and finds himself alone upfront often. Reckon he will get at least 10+ this season.
Zahore had great potential which we only saw glimpses of, albeit injury playing a big part in that.Good luck to him.

Pack Flint and Morrisson are all supposed to be characters but I agree at times there seems to be a bit of a lack of fight about us. Oddly what you might say about us is we need a character like Neil Warnock to manage us to give us a bit of bite.

Last night's game was full of 'character' and the team fought to the end. It may not have been pretty to watch at times but there as no lack of effort and City players put in some pretty committed tackles

Lee Tomlin was a revelation for me (seemed to have a great rapport with Josh Murphy) and I hope this is a sign that the manager will be seeing him as an asset to the team going forward rather than a problem

Overall, the best display of the season to date and some promising signs that the 'preferred' starting XI is starting to take shape

Says it all on here really


https://twitter.com/CouchNish/status/11 ... 34688?s=09

Minus Pack at the moment (who would come back in for Bacuna) agree it's not a bad starting 11.

Does that 11 include Tomlin home and away (ie: giving him a run of games)? I'm not convinced Warnock trusts him even now which would be a real shame.

Says it all on here really


https://twitter.com/CouchNish/status/11 ... 34688?s=09

I couldn't agree more, great clip.

Says it all on here really


https://twitter.com/CouchNish/status/11 ... 34688?s=09

I couldn't agree more, great clip.

Hilarious! We’ve got a few on here and we all know who they are.