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VAR

Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:22 pm

Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far

Re: VAR

Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:39 pm

Said it all along. It's awful. I'm amazed they didn't scrap it after the trial. Too much money already invested I guess

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:02 am

thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far




Well one thing it hasn't stopped is rugby tackling in box clear case of it today and they say no foul! Now that was a clear error by var? It doesn't matter how quick it is fans and players will stop celebrating until players walking back to centre circle!! New handball rule as to be the most stupidist rule ever devised in football....

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:21 am

thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:41 am

CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Be honest that Man city goal was absolutely fine, the ball just scrapes his arm which is by his side as he jumps with the defender, if they are giving no goal for that then this will turn into a farce as the season pans out as most goals have something wrong with them somewhere
All that emotion and excitement the man city fans went through just gone. That game should have been remembered for being a brilliant game between two very good sides which was won with a last minute goal. Now it will just be remembered for a stupid VAR decision

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:57 am

It’s not allowed to scrape the arm anymore

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:04 am

If VAR was used last season we'd still be in the prem.Var is not to blame the handball in the box rule changes are.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:16 am

thomasblue wrote:
CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Be honest that Man city goal was absolutely fine, the ball just scrapes his arm which is by his side as he jumps with the defender, if they are giving no goal for that then this will turn into a farce as the season pans out as most goals have something wrong with them somewhere
All that emotion and excitement the man city fans went through just gone. That game should have been remembered for being a brilliant game between two very good sides which was won with a last minute goal. Now it will just be remembered for a stupid VAR decision


The Man City goal wasn’t absolutely fine though. The laws say it was handball and the ball clearly hit Laporte’s hand and was deflected into the path of Jesus.
No goal. Clear & obvious.

Had to laugh at the Spurs fans at the end singing. ..... VAR my lord, VAR!
:laughing6:

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:16 am

At least they're being consistent with the handball rule. I'd be more pissed off if that was given yesterday with the Wolves one having been disallowed. Then there would be evidence of the clear favouritism we all screamed about last season!

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:21 am

jimmy_rat wrote:At least they're being consistent with the handball rule. I'd be more pissed off if that was given yesterday with the Wolves one having been disallowed. Then there would be evidence of the clear favouritism we all screamed about last season!


Maybe regarding the handball rule but VAR surely should have picked up Lamela of Spurs with his hands all over the Man City defenders neck from the corner in the first half?

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:33 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:If VAR was used last season we'd still be in the prem.Var is not to blame the handball in the box rule changes are.



would it?

not so sure. three obvious decisions come to mind but i doubt it would have altered our position greatly.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:33 am

CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.



Yes mental 2 mins after goal is scored!! That's fantastic isn't it waiting 2 mins to celebrate a goal or not as case maybe? Meanwhile a genuine goal no one celebrates in case disallowed ... :o

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:35 am

It's taken the spontaneous out of the game I reckon,it's sanitised like American sport ... ruined the game

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:40 am

Scoularfan wrote:It's taken the spontaneous out of the game I reckon,it's sanitised like American sport ... ruined the game




Give it time it will expand in decisions made! What premier league have done is set bar far to high for overturning decisions other than handbal just to stop var being highlight of game not the football, The rugby tackle in 1st half was blatantly a pen but where was var then taking rea break? :laughing6:
Last edited by pembroke allan on Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:42 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:41 am

pembroke allan wrote:
CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Meanwhile a genuine goal no one celebrates in case disallowed ... :o


But that’s not quite true is it?

I’m watching Match Of The Day right now and every goal that’s being scored is celebrated exactly the same as ever. Home & away fans.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:56 am

What I can't my head around is if hits the attacking players hand, then it is a disallowed goal. Yet, if that ball had struck a Spurs hand, it wouldn't have been a penalty. Surely that's unfair. Makes no sense. I agree with VAR to a certain point, but that incident was very harsh and I would have been devastated had that happend to us.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:58 am

As you say maybe give it time , just not sure it's a big change

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:06 am

its a good job there is no VAR in the EFL then ;)

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:15 am

I've never wanted it, and still don't like it.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:29 am

thomasblue wrote:
CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Be honest that Man city goal was absolutely fine, the ball just scrapes his arm which is by his side as he jumps with the defender, if they are giving no goal for that then this will turn into a farce as the season pans out as most goals have something wrong with them somewhere
All that emotion and excitement the man city fans went through just gone. That game should have been remembered for being a brilliant game between two very good sides which was won with a last minute goal. Now it will just be remembered for a stupid VAR decision


The goal WASN’T fine. The law says a goal will be disallowed if the ball had touched an attacking players arm/hand in the build up. That clearly happened, so the goal was disallowed. There’s no debate here about whether the decision was right or wrong, because the law tells us it was right. Fair play to the VAR team for even spotting it, to be honest.

You’ve just said how fans aren’t celebrating goals anymore (which isn’t true at all), but followed it up by saying how unfair it was on Man City supporters who’d just been celebrating an injury time winner. Make your mind up.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:30 am

VAR, changes to law and almost everything else are driven by the clubs. That’s who the blame lies with.

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:55 am

KWest wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Be honest that Man city goal was absolutely fine, the ball just scrapes his arm which is by his side as he jumps with the defender, if they are giving no goal for that then this will turn into a farce as the season pans out as most goals have something wrong with them somewhere
All that emotion and excitement the man city fans went through just gone. That game should have been remembered for being a brilliant game between two very good sides which was won with a last minute goal. Now it will just be remembered for a stupid VAR decision


The goal WASN’T fine. The law says a goal will be disallowed if the ball had touched an attacking players arm/hand in the build up. That clearly happened, so the goal was disallowed. There’s no debate here about whether the decision was right or wrong, because the law tells us it was right. Fair play to the VAR team for even spotting it, to be honest.

You’ve just said how fans aren’t celebrating goals anymore (which isn’t true at all), but followed it up by saying how unfair it was on Man City supporters who’d just been celebrating an injury time winner. Make your mind up.




Yes its it's right but put it other way round if hit defenders arm accidentally like it did with him and it prevents goal and thats ok! :lol: if you are standing in offside position by 6ins from free kick but ball goes elsewhere then ball comes back across and team scores var gives it offside... previously that would not be given thats what's wrong with var...

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:13 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
KWest wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Be honest that Man city goal was absolutely fine, the ball just scrapes his arm which is by his side as he jumps with the defender, if they are giving no goal for that then this will turn into a farce as the season pans out as most goals have something wrong with them somewhere
All that emotion and excitement the man city fans went through just gone. That game should have been remembered for being a brilliant game between two very good sides which was won with a last minute goal. Now it will just be remembered for a stupid VAR decision


The goal WASN’T fine. The law says a goal will be disallowed if the ball had touched an attacking players arm/hand in the build up. That clearly happened, so the goal was disallowed. There’s no debate here about whether the decision was right or wrong, because the law tells us it was right. Fair play to the VAR team for even spotting it, to be honest.

You’ve just said how fans aren’t celebrating goals anymore (which isn’t true at all), but followed it up by saying how unfair it was on Man City supporters who’d just been celebrating an injury time winner. Make your mind up.




Yes its it's right but put it other way round if hit defenders arm accidentally like it did with him and it prevents goal and thats ok! :lol: if you are standing in offside position by 6ins from free kick but ball goes elsewhere then ball comes back across and team scores var gives it offside... previously that would not be given thats what's wrong with var...


So, you’re complaining that VAR ensures the rules are followed, then?

Re: VAR

Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:18 pm

KWest wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
KWest wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
CityBlue93 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Let's be honest it has ruined the game, every decision now is checked its pathetic.

I'm all for a fair outcome but its draining all the emotion and excitement out of the game.

Nobody really celebrates anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision.

It's supposed to be for obvious errors but this season they are taking it too far


Mate try telling Norwich fans they aren't 'celebrating anymore because they know they have to wait for a decision' after their quality win in a game unaffected by VAR. Or any other team today who won in fact.

If we were spurs today and the jacks were man city... last minute goal ruled out because they'd handballed an assist on to their striker and scored.. I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of lack of excitement and emotion in the canton after VAR had made the decision. Same if VAR had stepped in in the Chelsea game last season and ruled out their offside goal, the emotion and celebration would be mental in our end.


Be honest that Man city goal was absolutely fine, the ball just scrapes his arm which is by his side as he jumps with the defender, if they are giving no goal for that then this will turn into a farce as the season pans out as most goals have something wrong with them somewhere
All that emotion and excitement the man city fans went through just gone. That game should have been remembered for being a brilliant game between two very good sides which was won with a last minute goal. Now it will just be remembered for a stupid VAR decision


The goal WASN’T fine. The law says a goal will be disallowed if the ball had touched an attacking players arm/hand in the build up. That clearly happened, so the goal was disallowed. There’s no debate here about whether the decision was right or wrong, because the law tells us it was right. Fair play to the VAR team for even spotting it, to be honest.

You’ve just said how fans aren’t celebrating goals anymore (which isn’t true at all), but followed it up by saying how unfair it was on Man City supporters who’d just been celebrating an injury time winner. Make your mind up.




Yes its it's right but put it other way round if hit defenders arm accidentally like it did with him and it prevents goal and thats ok! :lol: if you are standing in offside position by 6ins from free kick but ball goes elsewhere then ball comes back across and team scores var gives it offside... previously that would not be given thats what's wrong with var...


So, you’re complaining that VAR ensures the rules are followed, then?



No handball law us an ass but var as changed way offside is interpreted example I gave is how its changed what is offside and what is not compared to last season? But var doesn't understand that rugby tackling in pen area us a pen as seen in man c game.. :o