Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:50 pm
Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:57 pm
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:21 pm
danielrees17 wrote:Not including money we recieved for manga or healey either are they haha, where do they get these figures?
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:14 pm
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:18 pm
JackSensealot wrote:A profit on transfers fees maybe.
But it’s a bit like saying my sweet shop made a healthy profit because it bought the days sweets for £50 and sold them for £200 meaning a direct profit in sales of £150.
However when you factor in that I spent £120 on the shop staff, £100 that days rent, £10 utilities... the picture becomes quite different.
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:20 pm
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:21 pm
pembroke allan wrote:JackSensealot wrote:A profit on transfers fees maybe.
But it’s a bit like saying my sweet shop made a healthy profit because it bought the days sweets for £50 and sold them for £200 meaning a direct profit in sales of £150.
However when you factor in that I spent £120 on the shop staff, £100 that days rent, £10 utilities... the picture becomes quite different.
That's what they are talking about transfer profit/loss not the clubs annual accounts
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:25 pm
JackSensealot wrote:pembroke allan wrote:JackSensealot wrote:A profit on transfers fees maybe.
But it’s a bit like saying my sweet shop made a healthy profit because it bought the days sweets for £50 and sold them for £200 meaning a direct profit in sales of £150.
However when you factor in that I spent £120 on the shop staff, £100 that days rent, £10 utilities... the picture becomes quite different.
That's what they are talking about transfer profit/loss not the clubs annual accounts
The article yes, but the responses suggest that due to this there should be an increased level of spending, that’s certainly what seemed to be implied anyway.
Transfer profit alone has no bearing on the spending power a club has. You have to look at the whole picture, and the club most certainly would not be in a rosy position financially.
We made a transfer profit of £40m ish, but all that was needed for Premier League overheads.
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:34 pm
pembroke allan wrote:
Mmmm how to turn a short story into war and peace novel! Leave you to it
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:52 pm
JackSensealot wrote:pembroke allan wrote:
Mmmm how to turn a short story into war and peace novel! Leave you to it
Both excellent reads, cheers Allan.
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:51 pm
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:28 am
JackSensealot wrote:When you start posting something of substance, I may consider that as a kind of trade off, although yet to see anything resembling that, however there is still time. So as it stands I am perfectly happy with my contribution Pauly and no doubt have added to this thread more than your every increasingly frequent 'nothing comment', which is ironic really...![]()
Cheers
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:57 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
At sometime this season the annual accounts for both CCFC & SCFC will be published. At that point we can discuss wage/bonus structures etc.
For now this article is about net transfer spends where both clubs have made healthy profits. Any addition by you is simply speculation and doesn't add anything to the thread.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:03 am
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:42 am
JackSensealot wrote:It’s also worth noting that you made a €51 million loss on transfers the 12 months prior, which is why looking at a simple list of transfers in and out this season and thinking it’s a profit that could be spent is crazy.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:45 am
cityone wrote:JackSensealot wrote:It’s also worth noting that you made a €51 million loss on transfers the 12 months prior, which is why looking at a simple list of transfers in and out this season and thinking it’s a profit that could be spent is crazy.
How's Australia these days freak show???![]()
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:48 am
JackSensealot wrote:When you start posting something of substance, I may consider that as a kind of trade off, although yet to see anything resembling that, however there is still time. So as it stands I am perfectly happy with my contribution Pauly and no doubt have added to this thread more than your every increasingly frequent 'nothing comment', which is ironic really...![]()
Cheers
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:54 am
rumpo kid wrote:JackSensealot wrote:When you start posting something of substance, I may consider that as a kind of trade off, although yet to see anything resembling that, however there is still time. So as it stands I am perfectly happy with my contribution Pauly and no doubt have added to this thread more than your every increasingly frequent 'nothing comment', which is ironic really...![]()
Cheers
Safe to say, we know where the 'Most boring poster in the World' title is headed this year.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:04 am
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:13 am
JackSensealot wrote:A profit on transfers fees maybe.
But it’s a bit like saying my sweet shop made a healthy profit because it bought the days sweets for £50 and sold them for £200 meaning a direct profit in sales of £150.
However when you factor in that I spent £120 on the shop staff, £100 that days rent, £10 utilities... the picture becomes quite different.
The Premier League is a very expensive place full of hidden costs. Your squad will be on so much more than it was when it was in the Championship, regardless of what people say, you were not there long enough to insert relegation clauses in historical contracts plus the bonuses triggered the second the final whistle went on the final day in the Championship.
You still have the Sala money hanging over your head plus amortised payments owed for players you bought after and pre promotion.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:46 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:,I'm really getting worried now. I tend to agree with the Jack on this, the second time this week. Read on plenty of other threads about our lack of spending, and the huge amounts we must have made just because we spent one season in the PL. Fans tend to forget that the running costs of operating a PL club are also huge. We will find out just how much when the accounts are finally submitted and available for us all to view. I doubt very much that we will have made massive profits as some seem to think.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:08 am
cityone wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:,I'm really getting worried now. I tend to agree with the Jack on this, the second time this week. Read on plenty of other threads about our lack of spending, and the huge amounts we must have made just because we spent one season in the PL. Fans tend to forget that the running costs of operating a PL club are also huge. We will find out just how much when the accounts are finally submitted and available for us all to view. I doubt very much that we will have made massive profits as some seem to think.
Steve, you do realise it's the freak show roathie don't you?? he used to only hijack jack threads, now using one of his 50 other user names he hijacks any thread the weirdo feels like.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:13 am
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:19 am
JackSensealot wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:
At sometime this season the annual accounts for both CCFC & SCFC will be published. At that point we can discuss wage/bonus structures etc.
For now this article is about net transfer spends where both clubs have made healthy profits. Any addition by you is simply speculation and doesn't add anything to the thread.
It’s more common sense than speculation.
Costs increase with promotion, that much is blindingly obvious. When you get promoted you spend what you can afford, once relegated you can no longer afford to fund what you have. It’s just football 101 and something that has been consistently the case year in year for over a decade.
The accounts will tell us to the pound how much costs increased, but we can safely say that they have without knowing the exact pound. Transfer profits based on 1 year is nonsense, for example you have counted Bobby Reid as a £10m profit... yet you made no profit on him at all, in fact surely lost money on him with agents fees, signing on fees, salary, bonus etc etc
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:20 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:cityone wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:,I'm really getting worried now. I tend to agree with the Jack on this, the second time this week. Read on plenty of other threads about our lack of spending, and the huge amounts we must have made just because we spent one season in the PL. Fans tend to forget that the running costs of operating a PL club are also huge. We will find out just how much when the accounts are finally submitted and available for us all to view. I doubt very much that we will have made massive profits as some seem to think.
Steve, you do realise it's the freak show roathie don't you?? he used to only hijack jack threads, now using one of his 50 other user names he hijacks any thread the weirdo feels like.
Hi cityone. Yes, I guessed it was Roathie, but he seems to have changed the ways he posts slightly. He no longer comes across as the obnoxious know-it-all that he was under his hundreds of previous names, and at the moment, does not appear to be here simply as a forum ruining troll. I am happy enough to get into a converstion with anyone, if that person genuinely wants a discussion rather than just arguing for the sake of it. So far this week he has posted a couple of times, and in all fairness, his comments have been sensible and courteous enough. Remains to be seen how long this continues.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:27 am
JackSensealot wrote:For the record, one and only username as always. Never have and never would have multiple ones, I can more than hold my own without needing more than one. I would have thought that was evident by now.
Anyway, yes it’s ironic that those that go on about Roathie only end up trolling and ruining their own clubs forums threads. I suppose that is some sort of poetic irony enjoyed by someone somewhere.
Just talk about football and nobody has a problem surely? Anyway, back to the topic.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:30 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
This might be the only username you have at the present but it is more than a little suspicious that your joining date is very recent. A very Roathie type trait.
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:07 pm
griff105 wrote:On the downside Roathy is back
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:56 am
2blue2handle wrote:griff105 wrote:On the downside Roathy is back
I ignore him but not sure why he hasn't been banned. Very annoying and odd person.
Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:02 am
JackSensealot wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:
This might be the only username you have at the present but it is more than a little suspicious that your joining date is very recent. A very Roathie type trait.
My joining date was January/February-ish. Sven banned the other username “JackSensalot” (different spelling) after I showed him to be wrong about something Swansea related and he didn’t like it.
Anyway...
This is why posters believe you're Roathie because that is the kind of nonsense and distortion he would do.