Tan too tight?

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

How much should we spend on players ?

How does this fit with FFP

Also Tan paying debt to equity. Do you want us in debt again ?

NIBLUEBIRD

" just back in the prem "

And Warnock has said that VT keeps asking him to spend some money!

Either Tan is not giving him the funds or Warnock is not willing to spend big to bring in guaranteed championship quality even though Tan is willing to give him money to spend. You wouldn't think we'd just been relegated from the prem would you. We're now gambling on Joe Day to make the step up 2 divisions and hope Curtis Nelson and Gavin Whyte can be top championship players this season from league 1 last season.

I remember warnock saying last season that he had to calm VT down from spending to much money.

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

The aim of parachute payments is to help offset the huge drop in income after being relegated from the PL, particularly as clubs are often left with players on long term contracts still on the equivalent of a PL salary. These payments were never designed to give relegated clubs an unfair advantage by having millions of extra pounds to spend on new players. As you say, the club may have made money in sales, but it's worth looking at the whole picture, and not just the last year or so. Check the audited accounts and see where our starting position was. Tan has covered some huge debts already, and income received from television rights in the Championship will be like loose change compared to the PL. Being in the PL for a season does not gurantee a club suddenly becomes rich, take a look at the audited accounts for our last little stint in the top flight.

Either Tan is not giving him the funds or Warnock is not willing to spend big to bring in guaranteed championship quality even though Tan is willing to give him money to spend. You wouldn't think we'd just been relegated from the prem would you. We're now gambling on Joe Day to make the step up 2 divisions and hope Curtis Nelson and Gavin Whyte can be top championship players this season from league 1 last season.

Clever how you didnt mention flint or the german striker
Obvious agenda

STEVE ZODIAK

Thing is if the boss wants to spend on the club its his money be it transfers or loans why do we feel the need to tell vincent tan "no"

Either Tan is not giving him the funds or Warnock is not willing to spend big to bring in guaranteed championship quality even though Tan is willing to give him money to spend. You wouldn't think we'd just been relegated from the prem would you. We're now gambling on Joe Day to make the step up 2 divisions and hope Curtis Nelson and Gavin Whyte can be top championship players this season from league 1 last season.

Clever how you didnt mention flint or the german striker
Obvious agenda

Or that just 7 months ago Cardiff were in the process of making their most expensive signing ever.

STEVE ZODIAK

Thing is if the boss wants to spend on the club its his money be it transfers or loans why do we feel the need to tell vincent tan "no"

Who is telling him no?

STEVE ZODIAK

"neil" he has said that he is not spending silly money quite a few times over the last few seasons i think he should manage the team not the funds.

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

The aim of parachute payments is to help offset the huge drop in income after being relegated from the PL, particularly as clubs are often left with players on long term contracts still on the equivalent of a PL salary. These payments were never designed to give relegated clubs an unfair advantage by having millions of extra pounds to spend on new players. As you say, the club may have made money in sales, but it's worth looking at the whole picture, and not just the last year or so. Check the audited accounts and see where our starting position was. Tan has covered some huge debts already, and income received from television rights in the Championship will be like loose change compared to the PL. Being in the PL for a season does not gurantee a club suddenly becomes rich, take a look at the audited accounts for our last little stint in the top flight.

In general what you"re saying is correct, but last season we only spent £26 million for an assult on the premier League, without doubt the reason we got relegated.

STEVE ZODIAK

"neil" he has said that he is not spending silly money quite a few times over the last few seasons i think he should manage the team not the funds.

To be fair, he says a lot of things that need to be taken with a pinch of salt. I'm confident if the right player is available, and Warnock really wants him, Tan would make money available within reason. As I said above he made £15m available for a player a few months back, and Warnock was perfectly happy to spend that on a player unproven at PL level. None of us really know what is going on behind the scenes, we are all guessing to a certain extent.

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

The aim of parachute payments is to help offset the huge drop in income after being relegated from the PL, particularly as clubs are often left with players on long term contracts still on the equivalent of a PL salary. These payments were never designed to give relegated clubs an unfair advantage by having millions of extra pounds to spend on new players. As you say, the club may have made money in sales, but it's worth looking at the whole picture, and not just the last year or so. Check the audited accounts and see where our starting position was. Tan has covered some huge debts already, and income received from television rights in the Championship will be like loose change compared to the PL. Being in the PL for a season does not gurantee a club suddenly becomes rich, take a look at the audited accounts for our last little stint in the top flight.

In general what you"re saying is correct, but last season we only spent £26 million for an assult on the premier League, without doubt the reason we got relegated.

It was a disappointing amount, but was more than the £25m max I predicted would be spent by the club. Also need to take into account the £15m striker who never got to play for us. We were only one win away from staying up, that striker may have got us the extra few points required, and Warnock would have been in the running for manager of the year. Sadly, we will never know.

Here’s an explanation of FFP not our club .Interesting reading none the less regarding parachute payments ,turnover .

http://priceoffootball.com/aston-villa-and-ffp/

They are gambling big style on staying in the Premiership.

Here’s an explanation of FFP not our club .Interesting reading none the less regarding parachute payments ,turnover .

http://priceoffootball.com/aston-villa-and-ffp/

They are gambling big style on staying in the Premiership.

And I believe parachute payments have changed slightly since our last visit to the PL. I don't think they are paid for as many years, and if we were to be promoted again this season, we would not get our second year of payments (probably fairly obvious but some may not have taken that into account). Afraid FFP goes way over my head, but there are all sorts of things that fans tend to overlook when they ask why a club has not spent a fortune. Far bigger businesses than Cardiff City have gone bust by not being diligent with their running costs, and only making short term provisions.

I think we are doing just fine thanks.
For once I trust in what they are all doing

I think we are doing just fine thanks.
For once I trust in what they are all doing

What he said!

Let’s all be fair the signings we had made have been poor apart from flint and maybe gratzel we should be looking for better quality players who are championship proven

Let’s all be fair the signings we had made have been poor apart from flint and maybe gratzel we should be looking for better quality players who are championship proven

A lot of people thought the same the last time we got promoted!

STEVE ZODIAK

Thing is if the boss wants to spend on the club its his money be it transfers or loans why do we feel the need to tell vincent tan "no"

MONTYBLUE

If Neil Warnock feels he doesn't need to spend money 'just for the sake of it' (and I somehow doubt he really has the opportunity to do that), then there will be reasons for it, e.g. lack of available quality/value, disruption to the existing squad (financial) and/or he feels he wants players willing to bust a gut to prove themselves

The manager's MO is to build teams that stick together and battle for the cause and he's not done too bad a job to date; often against the odds

He'll be judged on result this season just as much (maybe even more) as in the past and he'll be flat out to prove a point in his last season in football

Support the guy whilst he is here; we will certainly miss him next season no matter what!

We’ve come down from the Prem, offloaded big earners like Gunnarsson, Manga and Zohore and only have a net spend of something like £2m. Where’s our parachute payments gone

edit: and out of that net spend of only £2m, only Glatzel looks like he will be straight into the first team.

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

The aim of parachute payments is to help offset the huge drop in income after being relegated from the PL, particularly as clubs are often left with players on long term contracts still on the equivalent of a PL salary. These payments were never designed to give relegated clubs an unfair advantage by having millions of extra pounds to spend on new players. As you say, the club may have made money in sales, but it's worth looking at the whole picture, and not just the last year or so. Check the audited accounts and see where our starting position was. Tan has covered some huge debts already, and income received from television rights in the Championship will be like loose change compared to the PL. Being in the PL for a season does not gurantee a club suddenly becomes rich, take a look at the audited accounts for our last little stint in the top flight.

In general what you"re saying is correct, but last season we only spent £26 million for an assult on the premier League, without doubt the reason we got relegated.

Fulham spent £100m and got relegated. I don’t get your point. Spending a shit tonne doesn’t guarantee you anything.

SVEN

Its not the case that if he feels that he is wasting money and not spending for the sake of it i don' t disagree with that, what i disagree with is that neil is a notherner and they tend to be a bit tight and saying we are not paying silly money etc and letting potential signings slip away because it goes against the grain of someones personal opinion that i have a issue with ,
As regards been behind the manager i shout just as loud as any other fan when chanting his name and have been 99% happy as a manager of us, 1% tranfers not so much.

Either Tan is not giving him the funds or Warnock is not willing to spend big to bring in guaranteed championship quality even though Tan is willing to give him money to spend. You wouldn't think we'd just been relegated from the prem would you. We're now gambling on Joe Day to make the step up 2 divisions and hope Curtis Nelson and Gavin Whyte can be top championship players this season from league 1 last season.

Clever how you didnt mention flint or the german striker
Obvious agenda

Or that just 7 months ago Cardiff were in the process of making their most expensive signing ever.

Spot on selective negativity

it’s not tan who’s tight it’s warnock

Let it peel and get another one..

Why ain’t we signing quality Proven players we made loads of money in sales and parachute payments we should be bringing in championship quality players why do we always look at the cheap options getting ridiculous now

The aim of parachute payments is to help offset the huge drop in income after being relegated from the PL, particularly as clubs are often left with players on long term contracts still on the equivalent of a PL salary. These payments were never designed to give relegated clubs an unfair advantage by having millions of extra pounds to spend on new players. As you say, the club may have made money in sales, but it's worth looking at the whole picture, and not just the last year or so. Check the audited accounts and see where our starting position was. Tan has covered some huge debts already, and income received from television rights in the Championship will be like loose change compared to the PL. Being in the PL for a season does not gurantee a club suddenly becomes rich, take a look at the audited accounts for our last little stint in the top flight.

In general what you"re saying is correct, but last season we only spent £26 million for an assult on the premier League, without doubt the reason we got relegated.

No it wasnt one win away
Chelsea home
And we spent 15 million for a player who sadly neverbplayed a game
So ee spent 41 million not 26
By the way how much spend guarantees staying up fulham spent over 100 million and finished below us
£££££££££means nothing

Look at Leeds and Fulham costa caveleiro knockaert arter on Loans anyone of them we should of been after to improve our squad but signing league 1 players ffs