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Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:01 am

I see tomlin is in the under 23’s, arguably one of the best creative players in the league. He’s being forced out with bacuna and ralls instead. I find it baffling

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:03 am

Bob Bank Bogs wrote:I see tomlin is in the under 23’s, arguably one of the best creative players in the league. He’s being forced out with bacuna and ralls instead. I find it baffling


Where have you heard this

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:04 am

He's been given Gunnars old shirt number. Played a key part in the friendly last weekend when many were left out. Looking sharp in first team training.

Yes he stayed at home with the U23's but that was a visa issue.

I think there is a part for him this season. Even if he is only a plan B or C.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:05 am

He’s in the under 23 side today, announced on twitter

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:05 am

He’s in the under 23 side today, announced on twitter

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:09 am

Bob Bank Bogs wrote:He’s in the under 23 side today, announced on twitter


That's probably for fitness

Not a relegation

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:10 am

He’s had a full pre season already

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:17 am

Bob Bank Bogs wrote:He’s had a full pre season already


And needs more fitness than most.

I think we all agree he isn't going to start tomorrow. But in a few months time that may be different. To say he's being forced out is a bit far fetched. He's been involved with the first team.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:19 am

Paterson also playing. Is he being forced out?

Smithies, Cunningham, Bolger all playing too. Also first team squad.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:24 am

Paterson hasn’t had a pre season, Cunningham wants to leave for first team action.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:27 am

Keep trying to justify it. We all know Tomlin needs game time just as much as Paterson.

If Tomlin leaves it's not because Warnock has 'forced' him out.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:37 am

Haha keep off the glue kid

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:41 am

NIBluebird wrote:
Bob Bank Bogs wrote:He’s in the under 23 side today, announced on twitter


That's probably for fitness

Not a relegation



Tomlin says he is fitter than ever.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:42 am

jimmy_rat wrote:Keep trying to justify it. We all know Tomlin needs game time just as much as Paterson.

If Tomlin leaves it's not because Warnock has 'forced' him out.



Tomlin only has himself to blame :thumbright:

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:44 am

Bob Bank Bogs wrote:I see tomlin is in the under 23’s, arguably one of the best creative players in the league. He’s being forced out with bacuna and ralls instead. I find it baffling



Warnock wants a good attitude, he is not that forgiving, Tomlin is going to have to start running through walls to impress Warnock if he has any chance at all, personally, I think you are right and if Warnock can get one or two more in, he will ship him and Bogle out, but it's down them to change his mind!!!
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Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:44 am

jimmy_rat wrote:Paterson also playing. Is he being forced out?

Smithies, Cunningham, Bolger all playing too. Also first team squad.



smithies cunningham have rumoured to be unhappy/leaving these players are basically in the shop window other than paterson who is catching up on fitness.

tomlin even said to a fan pray harder after he tweeted him and said he's praying he plays for cardiff this season.

if he was in his plans he would not be playing today imo

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:50 am

Forever Blue wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:Keep trying to justify it. We all know Tomlin needs game time just as much as Paterson.

If Tomlin leaves it's not because Warnock has 'forced' him out.



Tomlin only has himself to blame :thumbright:


Exactly. Everything I have seen points to them having a good relationship.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:52 am

BluebirdsTilIDie wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:Paterson also playing. Is he being forced out?

Smithies, Cunningham, Bolger all playing too. Also first team squad.



smithies cunningham have rumoured to be unhappy/leaving these players are basically in the shop window other than paterson who is catching up on fitness.

tomlin even said to a fan pray harder after he tweeted him and said he's praying he plays for cardiff this season.

if he was in his plans for the Wigan match tomorrow he would not be playing today imo


I've changed your last sentence to better reflect the situation.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:01 am

So just because he now decides to do what he should of done last season and season before he can waltz straight back in??
I think not..
If he wants to play a part as he says, he needs to show Warnock he is there mentally as well as physically.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:09 am

Warnock doesn't give second chances, it be amazed if him and Bogle aren't off.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:11 am

WOL seem to think Warnock want a him gone. And I'll give you some perfectly good reasons why that might be true...

- he's on high wages
- he can't be relied on
- he's squandered chances with Warnock in the past
- high potential to disrupt the squad

I hope he does get a chance and do well but I can equally see him being left out alot. It's not all about being a good player, Warnock demands more than that.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:57 pm

Bad influence seemed to be the reason why
Plus there was always a shortage of meat pies at the stadium when he was around.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:59 pm

No chance. It's game time. That's it. It's still pre season. Different between fit and match fit.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:26 pm

Why not loan him out and save some money if he ain’t gonna play, someone will snap him up poor by the club.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:53 am

Tomlinson looks like he has worked hard preseason to get in shape. I’d love to see him get a chance in the squad, the more options we have the better. Bring him on second half today get some minutes . :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:05 am

Mike Strinati wrote:Tomlinson looks like he has worked hard preseason to get in shape. I’d love to see him get a chance in the squad, the more options we have the better. Bring him on second half today get some minutes . :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


I'm sure everyone has been working hard to stay in shape.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:50 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Mike Strinati wrote:Tomlinson looks like he has worked hard preseason to get in shape. I’d love to see him get a chance in the squad, the more options we have the better. Bring him on second half today get some minutes . :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


I'm sure everyone has been working hard to stay in shape.


That’s the difference. Tomlin wasn’t in shape or in right frame of mind. Give the guy a chance I say the guys got quality.

Re: Why is Warnock forcing Tomlin out?

Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:01 pm

Mike Strinati wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Mike Strinati wrote:Tomlinson looks like he has worked hard preseason to get in shape. I’d love to see him get a chance in the squad, the more options we have the better. Bring him on second half today get some minutes . :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


I'm sure everyone has been working hard to stay in shape.


That’s the difference. Tomlin wasn’t in shape or in right frame of mind. Give the guy a chance I say the guys got quality.


So the players who have stayed fit and worked hard for the last 2 or 3 years don't deserve a chance because Tomlin has decided he might want to get fit after 2 years of being over weight?