Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:47 pm
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:53 pm
maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:57 pm
maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:33 pm
2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:37 pm
maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:39 pm
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:39 pm
maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
How weaker at right back?
Madine played for a top championship side last year.
Grujic not in midfield is only place we are weaker but he wasn’t rated by many.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:53 pm
2blue2handle wrote:
The player who played right back pretty much all promotion season has left. I would say that makes us weaker.
I don't see how you can say we aren't weaker upfront having lost Zohore who lead the line most of the promotion season.
I don't think we are much weaker in midfield to be honest, Vaulks I prefer to Gunner and Bacuna is a solid championship player (I hope) but we need another.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:01 pm
2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
How weaker at right back?
Madine played for a top championship side last year.
Grujic not in midfield is only place we are weaker but he wasn’t rated by many.
The player who played right back pretty much all promotion season has left. I would say that makes us weaker.
I don't see how you can say we aren't weaker upfront having lost Zohore who lead the line most of the promotion season.
I don't think we are much weaker in midfield to be honest, Vaulks I prefer to Gunner and Bacuna is a solid championship player (I hope) but we need another.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:16 pm
maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
How weaker at right back?
Madine played for a top championship side last year.
Grujic not in midfield is only place we are weaker but he wasn’t rated by many.
The player who played right back pretty much all promotion season has left. I would say that makes us weaker.
I don't see how you can say we aren't weaker upfront having lost Zohore who lead the line most of the promotion season.
I don't think we are much weaker in midfield to be honest, Vaulks I prefer to Gunner and Bacuna is a solid championship player (I hope) but we need another.
We looked much more solid with Peltier at RB rather than Manga. Granted that may have been because of Manga playing CB but we won’t know. We won’t need much from Peltier going forward with NML and Murphy wingers.
Zohore May have been striker but he didn’t do a lot. I’m not one who thinks he is shite at all but he and Paterson up top is no better than Madine/Ward/Bogle and Reid in my opinion. Reid is going to rip it apart next year.
Far stronger overall.
Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:17 pm
2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
How weaker at right back?
Madine played for a top championship side last year.
Grujic not in midfield is only place we are weaker but he wasn’t rated by many.
The player who played right back pretty much all promotion season has left. I would say that makes us weaker.
I don't see how you can say we aren't weaker upfront having lost Zohore who lead the line most of the promotion season.
I don't think we are much weaker in midfield to be honest, Vaulks I prefer to Gunner and Bacuna is a solid championship player (I hope) but we need another.
We looked much more solid with Peltier at RB rather than Manga. Granted that may have been because of Manga playing CB but we won’t know. We won’t need much from Peltier going forward with NML and Murphy wingers.
Zohore May have been striker but he didn’t do a lot. I’m not one who thinks he is shite at all but he and Paterson up top is no better than Madine/Ward/Bogle and Reid in my opinion. Reid is going to rip it apart next year.
Far stronger overall.
For me Peltier is a better right back but if we are comparing squads then that's what we have to do, obviously Warnock thought Manga was a better option at right back so that has to make us weaker.
Reid won't copy upfront in our system, he would get totally bullied if we chucked the crap up to him like we did to Zohore or Medine. As a number 10 I think he can have a cracking season though and think he will get goals.
Patterson must never play upfront for us again, that was awful.
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:56 am
2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:09 am
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:15 am
maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:2blue2handle wrote:maccydee wrote:Instead of comparing the squad to last year why not compare it to the last time we were promoted from the Championship.
In my mind apart from the loss of Gunnar and Grujic we are actually a lot stronger and one was fit for half a season and one was here for half a season. Bobby Reid and Murphy are top class at this level. Flint is too and will do more than Manga did as much as I loved Manga. Ralls will be a lot better for his season in the Premier. I think if we keep Ward fit all season we will see an awesome striker. NML will also have improved from his time in the Premier.
We have also weakened one of our rivals by getting 8 million off them for Zohore.
As always in Warnock I trust.
Weaker at right back and upfront as obviously Reid can't play upfront in our system.
Stronger wide with Murphy and at number 10 with Reid instead of Patterson.
In my opinion this squad overal is weaker than the one who got promoted because its so unbalanced. Still plenty of time but key positions have to be filled.
Ward, Medine, Bogle all have something in comman, signed from bottom end championship teams and done nothing anything to suggest they are up to it and able to lead the line.
How weaker at right back?
Madine played for a top championship side last year.
Grujic not in midfield is only place we are weaker but he wasn’t rated by many.
The player who played right back pretty much all promotion season has left. I would say that makes us weaker.
I don't see how you can say we aren't weaker upfront having lost Zohore who lead the line most of the promotion season.
I don't think we are much weaker in midfield to be honest, Vaulks I prefer to Gunner and Bacuna is a solid championship player (I hope) but we need another.
We looked much more solid with Peltier at RB rather than Manga. Granted that may have been because of Manga playing CB but we won’t know. We won’t need much from Peltier going forward with NML and Murphy wingers.
Zohore May have been striker but he didn’t do a lot. I’m not one who thinks he is shite at all but he and Paterson up top is no better than Madine/Ward/Bogle and Reid in my opinion. Reid is going to rip it apart next year.
Far stronger overall.
For me Peltier is a better right back but if we are comparing squads then that's what we have to do, obviously Warnock thought Manga was a better option at right back so that has to make us weaker.
Reid won't copy upfront in our system, he would get totally bullied if we chucked the crap up to him like we did to Zohore or Medine. As a number 10 I think he can have a cracking season though and think he will get goals.
Patterson must never play upfront for us again, that was awful.
Paterson at 10 works but Reid a much better option at 10.
I would like Paterson centre mid. Think he has all the attributes to do well there.
Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:39 pm