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Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:46 pm

Seriously we have players who can score goals up there

Yes I think we need one but are people seriously suggesting they are more worried about a striker than centre midfielders!?!?

Our midfield 3 right now is vaulks ralls and bacuna ........

There is nothing in back up only damour who warnock didn’t play last championship campaign that midfield I wouldn’t want normally let alone be our first choice 3 all season!! What happens if one gets injured or suspended??

Seriously need two quality players in there pronto or we are gonna get walked over in that part of the field worse than normal

The thought of warnock saying he only wants one more scares me, that means he’s either dropping someone into midfield who can’t play there or he seriously thinks 3 and a fringe player is enough this year

Re: Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:52 pm

I would say he is thinking of a 4231 formation

That means we have 4 players who can play those 2 deep lying midfield roles

Ralls
Damour
Bacuna
Vaulks

Then we have attacking midfielder

Reid
Tomlin

Wingers

Hoilett
Murphy
Mendez

I think we will go with what we have to be honest if he believes in Tomlin

Re: Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:53 pm

Damour was great back up the season we went up.

For me the striker is the priority without a doubt. We are much weaker in that department than when we went up.

We obviously need another midfielder as well but replacing Gunner and Bryson with Vaulks and Bacuna is an improvement in my opinion from promotion year.

Re: Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:55 pm

thomasblue wrote:I would say he is thinking of a 4231 formation

That means we have 4 players who can play those 2 deep lying midfield roles

Ralls
Damour
Bacuna
Vaulks

Then we have attacking midfielder

Reid
Tomlin

Wingers

Hoilett
Murphy
Mendez

I think we will go with what we have to be honest if he believes in Tomlin


I hope your right even then that’s thin on the ground and ralls is no deep lying player

Re: Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:57 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Damour was great back up the season we went up.

For me the striker is the priority without a doubt. We are much weaker in that department than when we went up.

We obviously need another midfielder as well but replacing Gunner and Bryson with Vaulks and Bacuna is an improvement in my opinion from promotion year.


Are we really weaker luke?

Only zohore has gone he didn’t score anyway?!

I still think he needs to offload one before he buys one we have ward Bogle and madine, That young Irish lad as well and Reid and I think Reid start up there if tomlin is actually on form

Re: Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:06 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Damour was great back up the season we went up.

For me the striker is the priority without a doubt. We are much weaker in that department than when we went up.

We obviously need another midfielder as well but replacing Gunner and Bryson with Vaulks and Bacuna is an improvement in my opinion from promotion year.


Are we really weaker luke?

Only zohore has gone he didn’t score anyway?!

I still think he needs to offload one before he buys one we have ward Bogle and madine, That young Irish lad as well and Reid and I think Reid start up there if tomlin is actually on form


I think Reid will get totally bullied upfront alone in our system although I think he will be a brilliant number 10.
Zohore lead the line brilliantly promotion season, maybe didn't get as many goals as hoped but he did the job. Do I think Medine, Bogle or Ward can do that as well? No.
We need needed a top striker even before Zohore left.

I'm pretty sure the Irish lad is a midfielder.

As for Tomlin my gut is we won't see much of him anyway.

Re: Striker this striker that

Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:05 pm

Or to coin a phrase 'strike a light'
Sorry - a bit subtle for a few on here :)

Re: Striker this striker that

Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:54 am

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Seriously we have players who can score goals up there

Yes I think we need one but are people seriously suggesting they are more worried about a striker than centre midfielders!?!?

Our midfield 3 right now is vaulks ralls and bacuna ........

There is nothing in back up only damour who warnock didn’t play last championship campaign that midfield I wouldn’t want normally let alone be our first choice 3 all season!! What happens if one gets injured or suspended??

Seriously need two quality players in there pronto or we are gonna get walked over in that part of the field worse than normal

The thought of warnock saying he only wants one more scares me, that means he’s either dropping someone into midfield who can’t play there or he seriously thinks 3 and a fringe player is enough this year


I pretty much agree with this.
I think virtually everyone on here realises we need a minimum of two quality players to come in who are, hopefully, better than we have.

With the squad we have at this moment, I don’t think it is good enough to go up but I’m convinced there will be incomings.

For me, the priority is a quality midfield player before a striker as I see our midfield as being just - good to average.

Re: Striker this striker that

Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:17 am

Striker is definetely a priority over a midfielder but we need one of each anyway so little point in arguing about it.

Re: Striker this striker that

Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:58 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Seriously we have players who can score goals up there

Yes I think we need one but are people seriously suggesting they are more worried about a striker than centre midfielders!?!?

Our midfield 3 right now is vaulks ralls and bacuna ........

There is nothing in back up only damour who warnock didn’t play last championship campaign that midfield I wouldn’t want normally let alone be our first choice 3 all season!! What happens if one gets injured or suspended??

Seriously need two quality players in there pronto or we are gonna get walked over in that part of the field worse than normal

The thought of warnock saying he only wants one more scares me, that means he’s either dropping someone into midfield who can’t play there or he seriously thinks 3 and a fringe player is enough this year


I pretty much agree with this.
I think virtually everyone on here realises we need a minimum of two quality players to come in who are, hopefully, better than we have.

With the squad we have at this moment, I don’t think it is good enough to go up but I’m convinced there will be incomings.

For me, the priority is a quality midfield player before a striker as I see our midfield as being just - good to average.


Glad someone can see sense our midfield is worse than it was last championship campaign has to be addressed for me as a priority if we are to compete seriously

As I said I’d love a goal scorer but bobby Reid is a goal scorer and providing he gets a run I’d like to think he is a player still capable of 20+ in this league

Re: Striker this striker that

Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:03 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Seriously we have players who can score goals up there

Yes I think we need one but are people seriously suggesting they are more worried about a striker than centre midfielders!?!?

Our midfield 3 right now is vaulks ralls and bacuna ........

There is nothing in back up only damour who warnock didn’t play last championship campaign that midfield I wouldn’t want normally let alone be our first choice 3 all season!! What happens if one gets injured or suspended??

Seriously need two quality players in there pronto or we are gonna get walked over in that part of the field worse than normal

The thought of warnock saying he only wants one more scares me, that means he’s either dropping someone into midfield who can’t play there or he seriously thinks 3 and a fringe player is enough this year


I pretty much agree with this.
I think virtually everyone on here realises we need a minimum of two quality players to come in who are, hopefully, better than we have.

With the squad we have at this moment, I don’t think it is good enough to go up but I’m convinced there will be incomings.

For me, the priority is a quality midfield player before a striker as I see our midfield as being just - good to average.


Glad someone can see sense our midfield is worse than it was last championship campaign has to be addressed for me as a priority if we are to compete seriously

As I said I’d love a goal scorer but bobby Reid is a goal scorer and providing he gets a run I’d like to think he is a player still capable of 20+ in this league


Yes mate priority midfield for me but I’m hoping a decent striker comes in as well. I think one may.

As regards Reid as a striker in the way Warnock sets his teams up, I don’t think it’ll work.
When he was at Bristol, from what I understand, he was playing in a two upfront not a loan striker as Warnock plays. That way he was able to drop off taking a defender with him and his movement resulted in goals.

As a loan striker I don’t think that’ll work.

Re: Striker this striker that

Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:34 pm

I agree with your Reid assessment he’d need a decent 10 behind him at worst to play up top on his own

I guess we shall mate I’d like two midfields and a striker and I’dbe more than
Happy with our window

Re: Striker this striker that

Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:29 am

I did say midfield is nowhere near strong enough this year they may get bette as games go but it’s still the weakest position in the field for me by a country mile

Bacuna and ralls is not the answer I said it early days I hope I get proved wrong of course but we need vaulks to be special if not

Re: Striker this striker that

Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:44 am

I think we all know a midfielder is required, in saying that we haven't used Vaulks yet.

I striker is still needed just as much in my opinion.

Nothing has changed since the start of the summer really, we haven't improved key areas again.

Re: Striker this striker that

Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:01 pm

Midfield should be main concern now we have glatzan as a striker bogle looked busy and patters has a part up front if needed, but midfield definitely looked the weakest on saturday
We have bamba and the new guy from oxford at the back if needed but bacuna is not camarassa or gunners.

Re: Striker this striker that

Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:22 pm

Glatzan??? Is that glatzan Ibrahimovic???

Re: Striker this striker that

Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:06 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:I did say midfield is nowhere near strong enough this year they may get bette as games go but it’s still the weakest position in the field for me by a country mile

Bacuna and ralls is not the answer I said it early days I hope I get proved wrong of course but we need vaulks to be special if not


Exactly the same again today that midfield is the difference between top 6 and mid table for me no creativity, no urgency and can’t seem to tackle either

Re: Striker this striker that

Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:20 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:I did say midfield is nowhere near strong enough this year they may get bette as games go but it’s still the weakest position in the field for me by a country mile

Bacuna and ralls is not the answer I said it early days I hope I get proved wrong of course but we need vaulks to be special if not


Exactly the same again today that midfield is the difference between top 6 and mid table for me no creativity, no urgency and can’t seem to tackle either



Are you quoting yourself :laughing5:

Re: Striker this striker that

Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:40 pm

Hopefully today has once and finally taught Warnock to never play Bacuna again.

Re: Striker this striker that

Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:20 pm

phildavies wrote:Hopefully today has once and finally taught Warnock to never play Bacuna again.


The issue is there is no one to replace him Phil midfield as mentioned isn’t he thread opening should have been priority

Jury is still out on pack and vaulks but I’ve seen enough of bacuna to know he should be nowhere near the starting line up

As for ralls he’s ok would be fine with two players better than himself but he’s no world beater and if we are pinning our hopes on Ralls to be our standout player in the middle of the park then mid table is our best position this season

Re: Striker this striker that

Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:46 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
phildavies wrote:Hopefully today has once and finally taught Warnock to never play Bacuna again.


The issue is there is no one to replace him Phil midfield as mentioned isn’t he thread opening should have been priority

Jury is still out on pack and vaulks but I’ve seen enough of bacuna to know he should be nowhere near the starting line up

As for ralls he’s ok would be fine with two players better than himself but he’s no world beater and if we are pinning our hopes on Ralls to be our standout player in the middle of the park then mid table is our best position this season


Lloyd Humphries from the youth is a better option than Bacuna in midfield.

Re: Striker this striker that

Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:18 pm

paulh_85 wrote:Striker is definetely a priority over a midfielder but we need one of each anyway so little point in arguing about it.


Nah

Re: Striker this striker that

Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:19 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:I did say midfield is nowhere near strong enough this year they may get bette as games go but it’s still the weakest position in the field for me by a country mile

Bacuna and ralls is not the answer I said it early days I hope I get proved wrong of course but we need vaulks to be special if not


Exactly the same again today that midfield is the difference between top 6 and mid table for me no creativity, no urgency and can’t seem to tackle either



Are you quoting yourself :laughing5:


Definitely NAH