So far we have spent less than we have received in, in tran

So far we have spent less out than we have received in, in transfers fees and none of the Premiership money we received.

We will need to bring a few more quality players including a top striker or maybe even two, which all costs and for me we will need to do this if we want to go straight back up.

Also Gary Madine wants to leave and we will have to offload him.

As to Lee Tomlin hmmmm? We shall wait and see, but for the good of our club Tomlin will need to shine in his first 5 games as for me without a doubt it’s his last chance at Cardiff City.

Do We need to spend more and more quality is needed?


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NIGEL HARRIS:

Regarding Tan
Wonder exactly what it means, i.e. investing more money in City or spending more time on them? Could be a scaling down due to age, Dalman recently close to exit etc too? Not sure the team rebuild shows necessary ambition for an instant promotion but we will see. Here's hoping.

Not only parachute payments we made a lot out of tv
also surely now is the time to invest like burnley did otherwise we could drift
But as i have said in previous posts the fans need to see us signing some quality and showing our intensions otherwise the attendances will struggle below 20 thousand.

Yes we need to spend more money and I think we will. We certainly need a top striker and a good midfielder. Personally I'd also like a right back.

This week I've found myself coming across quite negative considering we really should've got our big players in by now to get settled etc, which we haven't, and as it stands our squad simply isn't good enough for a bounce back to the premier league, and I still stand by that. I've also got wound up with the unnecessary tasteless bitter threads bashing Zohore, as he was my favorite player and for one reason or another this forum is split on him, which is fine, it doesn't matter anymore.

However, since making posts about our squad and lack of striker ability. Someone did comment on my post saying something like "I think people are giving too much credit to the championship squads" and having looked at pretty much all of the Strikers in the championship, the only one that stands out for me personally is Mitrovic for Fulham. I don't actually think anyone else has a stand out striker that will neccersarily get them promoted. Wheras I do think Bogle and Reid are arguably better than most strikers in this division (And I'm basing that off seeing how they play), and I don't know if they'll score more which is ultimately what's important going forward. So that's why I'm a bit nervous, because I don't want to go into the season being too comfortable with what we got. I feel like we're missing a Key striker, a backup winger and a Right Back.

I'm not convinced we need anymore midfielders like some people suggest, I.E
we already have:
Damour
Vaulks
Ralls
Bacuna
Nelson (I think he's been terrific in holding midfield when he's played there for us so far)

I think that's a decent midfield selection especially when we only play with 2 Midfielders most of the time anyway. If we're running low with injuries etc, we still have Richards to come back even though he's injury prone himself, Bamba to come back who has done a job in midfield for us, and even Paterson played half the season in the championship in Central midfield and then the Attacking midfield role 2 seasons ago. We'll be fine there.

But yeah, if Murphy or Mendez-Laing get injured our pace drastically changes because our next fastest player would be Hoilett, who's a good player to have but definitely slows us down a little bit.

I still think we could spend another 8 million or so before the window closes. I'm not sure why we keep chasing 23 year olds for 1 million. I understand we don't want to waste money, but surely we have to go for it, within reason.

Have we paid for sala yet

Have we paid for sala yet

Have we paid for sala yet

No FIFA doesn't seem to think we have too, they have been looking at it for months, and if we do have to, Tan can loan it to us and probably get it back from one of the negligence claims!

Just jurno's trying to upset a reasonably steady ship.Spending big doesn't guarantee promotion spending wisely does.As for Tan if he wants to sell his american football interests you can bet it will be at a profit.For me I just look around at the plight of some other clubs and think it could have been us.

I would of thought most clubs relegated from the top flight spend less than they receive as they adjust to the reduced income by offloading premiership assets. Clearly clubs like West Ham and Newcastle will bankroll to ensure promotion. It doesn't always work though. Villa must have been well and truly at the last chance saloon in May and Stoke don't seem to be chucking money around this year.

Maybe the thinking is "when we spend big the transfers are generally a flop (Gary Madine) but when we spend little or nothing (Neil Etheridge/NML) they are generally a success." Personally I get the logic and we are better off finding good value up and coming talent which either cost nothing or a smallish transfer fee.

There is also the reality that "a proven goal scorer" at Championship or PL standard is unlikely to come to us unless we offer financial suicide wages and transfer fees.

Personally I would like us to either develop talent we already have (Bogle?) or find hungry up and coming talent (either lower leagues or PL youngsters on loan) or both options to fill the gap.

TONY BLUE WILLIAMS

madine was hardly big money
when you think what we offered for sala, as regards paying silly money in wages etc, wolves seem to have managed to do that last season with a right to buy players, imo it worked very well for them, for the players which we require mainly a striker they are few and far between in the uk so you have to pay the going rate whether you deem it to be exesive,but if we look abroad which i think we should we may get more of a bargain.

I should think there is money available for new players or loan signings. No point in spending for the sake of it though. Would'nt make sense to sign anyone unless they are going to add strength to the side, and even after identifying potential targets, the club still has to persuade that player to come here rather than somewhere else, and then terms etc., have to be agreed. If a decent player is available, it is unlikely that we will be the only club interested in him. I suppose most people can see the areas which need strengthening, that is the easy bit. Getting the right players at the right price is a bit more difficult.

I should think there is money available for new players or loan signings. No point in spending for the sake of it though. Would'nt make sense to sign anyone unless they are going to add strength to the side, and even after identifying potential targets, the club still has to persuade that player to come here rather than somewhere else, and then terms etc., have to be agreed. If a decent player is available, it is unlikely that we will be the only club interested in him. I suppose most people can see the areas which need strengthening, that is the easy bit. Getting the right players at the right price is a bit more difficult.

And that is lost on many people who post on here.

Current Squad.

GK
Etheridge
Smithies
Day

Defenders
Peltier (RB)
Richards (RB)
Coxe (RB)
Bennett (LB)
Cunningham (LB)
Morrison (CB)
Bamba (CB)
Flint (CB)
Nelson (CB)
Connolly (CB)

Midfielders
Paterson
Ralls
Vaulks
Damour
Bacuna
Tomlin

Wingers
Mendez-Liang
Hoilett
Murphy

Strikers
Reid
Ward
Bogle
Madine


Hope i havent forgotten anyone.

To me, we still need to offload a few, (richards, connolly, Damour, Madine)

I have a feeling hes planning on using coxe this season, and we have able cover in Pelts if not. for me RB isnt that much of an issue, though i guess it depends how coxe does.

Get rid of Madine (if we can) bring in two strikers, one CM and a winger (loan?) and i think id be happy enough.

NW asked the club to think big when we were relegated.
We have time on our side as it is still a fortnight to the transfer deadline, but as always we are leaving it very very late.

NW asked the club to think big when we were relegated.
We have time on our side as it is still a fortnight to the transfer deadline, but as always we are leaving it very very late.

I don't think we are any different to the majority of clubs in that respect.

I just hope we aren't wasting to much time on people who are unlikely to come. We need to bring in someone better than Zohore and someone as good as Zohore in my opinion if we really want to make a go of it.

Then of course a midfielder and a right back.

I can see us going with Patterson upfront again, probably better than going with Madine.

Surely that's the point when income reduces.

Get relegated ..... spend less than you recoup on players.

Get promoted ..... spend more than you recoup on players.

Warnock has really had NO budget as sold players, brought in mostly freebies and now looking at loans.

For me after 10 years and 2 years in Premier League our club without a doubt should be debt free.

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We cut the cloth too tight last season and it cost us dearly, we may be about to make the same mistake again.
Reports we are now looking at loans for midfield and out wide, with any transfer funds going entirely on a CF.

We cut the cloth too tight last season and it cost us dearly, we may be about to make the same mistake again.
Reports we are now looking at loans for midfield and out wide, with any transfer funds going entirely on a CF.

doesnt really matter as long as the right players are brought in.

Warnock has really had NO budget as sold players, brought in mostly freebies and now looking at loans.

For me after 10 years and 2 years in Premier League our club without a doubt should be debt free.

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Can't agree with any of that or the inference behind the statement.Back in 2009 where we are now looked a million miles away and although the journey had its bumps we are in decent shape compared to some and have a future.I was envious of Blackpool in 2009,I'm not now.

I think we have to ask ourselves is whether the current squad are weaker than the one that got us promoted ?

I'm trying to be positive about our outgoing budget and hoping the premiership wedge can be used should we find ourselves in that position come the end of this season.

positive thinking again .. the club for me is in better shape for many long year than I can remember.

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Warnock has really had NO budget as sold players, brought in mostly freebies and now looking at loans.

For me after 10 years and 2 years in Premier League our club without a doubt should be debt free.

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Looking at the accounts around the time Tan took over , it does appear that the debt he inherited was significant ( £72m) however I guess it’s the balance sheet is what counts.

Perhaps Since 62 could assist with the link I’ve included.

Going forward , if we are prudent this season I think we will be close to debt free by 2021

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Sneggy bang on the money with two great posts.

Think we need to look at a few things without blinkers here.
1, Warnock had funds and didn't use them.
2, Who left all the debt?.
3, We are not attractive enough to get players to come here for some reason.
4, We seriously need to offload some but nobody wants them, why? ( Wages, fitness, attitudes )

I personally am glad to see us not wasting money and finally been run sensibility.

Sneggy bang on the money with two great posts.

Think we need to look at a few things without blinkers here.
1, Warnock had funds and didn't use them.
2, Who left all the debt?.
3, We are not attractive enough to get players to come here for some reason.
4, We seriously need to offload some but nobody wants them, why? ( Wages, fitness, attitudes )

I personally am glad to see us not wasting money and finally been run sensibility.

The debt thing is swings and roundabouts as tan made debt aswell, but saying we should be debt free by now is that not possible due to far east banking laws which is restricting tans ability to transfer large amounts to club plus ffp as influence in amount can be put into club... as for transfers on cheap its getting common practice now for most clubs since various clubs have managed promotion on a small budget and others have failed on big budgets, so cheap is preferred option Just need wait see if NW gets out main target a STRIKER!