£15mill bid for Swansea striker

BLADES’ FINAL McBURNIE BID


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Sheffield United will make a final £15m bid for Swansea forward Oliver McBurnie.

If the Blades fail with their final offer for the Scotland international, they will turn their attention to Brentford striker Neal Maupay.

He'll go-it's a no brainer.

From what I hear we are firm on 20 mill. Time will tell.

Wow £15M, madness

Wow £15M, madness

23 years old. 31 goals in 59 Championship games. Scottish international striker. Premier League experience.

That's the least we can expect.

Money not much good for you when you drop down the leagues, without his goals that is where you will end up, unless you think that your American owners are not going to pay the 31 investors any dividends. They are not going to spend anything on new players only loans and freebees. You can only do that for so long

Money not much good for you when you drop down the leagues, without his goals that is where you will end up, unless you think that your American owners are not going to pay the 31 investors any dividends. They are not going to spend anything on new players only loans and freebees. You can only do that for so long

Well money is desperately needed regardless of what league we are in. We still have to pay for the fallout from our last 10 years of success, which isn't cheap.

I don't think the Americans will take dividends no, not yet anyway - and that is for many reasons.

Firstly they will also have to pay the Trust a hefty chunk of that, which they certainly don't want to do as that will strengthen their financial position going into a legal battle. Secondly, we would need to make a profit in order for dividends to be issued - something that is not going to be easy to achieve and lastly I would imagine an 'actual' worthwhile return on their investment is the priority over a few piddly thousand dollars each - between 21 investors and the Trust, dividends don't stretch very far - they know that they would be far better off improving their company first. Once we get to the PL again, then that would be the time to cash in, not before.

Money not much good for you when you drop down the leagues, without his goals that is where you will end up, unless you think that your American owners are not going to pay the 31 investors any dividends. They are not going to spend anything on new players only loans and freebees. You can only do that for so long

Well money is desperately needed regardless of what league we are in. We still have to pay for the fallout from our last 10 years of success, which isn't cheap.

I don't think the Americans will take dividends no, not yet anyway - and that is for many reasons.

Firstly they will also have to pay the Trust a hefty chunk of that, which they certainly don't want to do as that will strengthen their financial position going into a legal battle. Secondly, we would need to make a profit in order for dividends to be issued - something that is not going to be easy to achieve and lastly I would imagine an 'actual' worthwhile return on their investment is the priority over a few piddly thousand dollars each - between 21 investors and the Trust, dividends don't stretch very far - they know that they would be far better off improving their company first. Once we get to the PL again, then that would be the time to cash in, not before.

Spent 7 yrs in there didn't you and didn't cash in then! so what makes you think can do next time if there us such a thing?

Spent 7 yrs in there didn't you and didn't cash in then! so what makes you think can do next time if there us such a thing?

I don't understand the question here. Do you mean Swansea as a club cashing in? If so, we funded our own training ground, club facilities and academy while investing in a squad capable of competing in the top half of the PL and in the knockout stages of Europe, so in a sense we did cash in. We spent hundreds of millions along the way on our adventure and now have the infrastructure in place to show for it.

What I was referring to however, was the owners opportunity to cash in would be in the PL. They didn't have a chance to cash in prior to relegation, they were only owners for a small fraction of that 7 years. I am pretty sure the plan was to acquire the club, improve its revenue streams (stadium deal now signed) and move it on for a quick profit. So if promoted again I can very much see a season much like you just had where investment in playing staff is minimal but a buyer sounded out and sold on.

Mid table for Jacks this year but if they lose him that might tip them to lower mid table. Still can’t believe how high their wage bill is considering how average their squad is.

Spent 7 yrs in there didn't you and didn't cash in then! so what makes you think can do next time if there us such a thing?

I don't understand the question here. Do you mean Swansea as a club cashing in? If so, we funded our own training ground, club facilities and academy while investing in a squad capable of competing in the top half of the PL and in the knockout stages of Europe, so in a sense we did cash in. We spent hundreds of millions along the way on our adventure and now have the infrastructure in place to show for it.

What I was referring to however, was the owners opportunity to cash in would be in the PL. They didn't have a chance to cash in prior to relegation, they were only owners for a small fraction of that 7 years. I am pretty sure the plan was to acquire the club, improve its revenue streams (stadium deal now signed) and move it on for a quick profit. So if promoted again I can very much see a season much like you just had where investment in playing staff is minimal but a buyer sounded out and sold on.

You said when get back to premier league club can cash in? is that cash in on players or riches of premier league? And I said you've had 7 yrs to cash in but you didn't because after 1 season out your on skid row getting in loans or freebies! so what makes you think can cash in next time? is that clearer

Spent 7 yrs in there didn't you and didn't cash in then! so what makes you think can do next time if there us such a thing?

I don't understand the question here. Do you mean Swansea as a club cashing in? If so, we funded our own training ground, club facilities and academy while investing in a squad capable of competing in the top half of the PL and in the knockout stages of Europe, so in a sense we did cash in. We spent hundreds of millions along the way on our adventure and now have the infrastructure in place to show for it.

What I was referring to however, was the owners opportunity to cash in would be in the PL. They didn't have a chance to cash in prior to relegation, they were only owners for a small fraction of that 7 years. I am pretty sure the plan was to acquire the club, improve its revenue streams (stadium deal now signed) and move it on for a quick profit. So if promoted again I can very much see a season much like you just had where investment in playing staff is minimal but a buyer sounded out and sold on.

You said when get back to premier league club can cash in? is that cash in on players or riches of premier league? And I said you've had 7 yrs to cash in but you didn't because after 1 season out your on skid row getting in loans or freebies! so what makes you think can cash in next time? is that clearer
Ps what's point on having all you said when cannot afford decent signings now? The playing side is more important than other things as many clubs can testify to previously..

Hate to say it but he is a very good striker. I remember watching us against Barnsley at home when we beat them (someone should tell McBurnie that as he seems to forget that) but he stood out an absolute mile from the rest of their players and was far too good for them. I actually think with the type of player he is he'd probably be a good fit for us but I cant see Swansea turning down 15m for him as im sure he'd love the chance to play in the prem. And if he does leave that's 2 of Swansea's best attacking players gone so they could well be in trouble next season.

You said when get back to premier league club can cash in? is that cash in on players or riches of premier league? And I said you've had 7 yrs to cash in but you didn't because after 1 season out your on skid row getting in loans or freebies! so what makes you think can cash in next time? is that clearer

No I didn't, I just clarified what I said. I will simplify:-

I was referring to the owners, not the club. By taking any tiny surplus cash in the Championship and splitting it between 22 (many with stakes as small as 1% and 2%) is not a sound business model and no doubt that money would be seen as better spent improving the business as in order to really cash in, they will need promotion to the PL.

However, as you clearly want to discuss the club - we did cash in. We funded 7 years of success, a squad capable of winning a major trophy, top 10 PL football and a European campaign. We have a state of the art training ground, facilities and academy, all this as a result of ''cashing in'' from the PL money.

Selling players is normal practice for a club that has been relegated following such success.

Wow £15M, madness

23 years old. 31 goals in 59 Championship games. Scottish international striker. Premier League experience.

That's the least we can expect.

Nope, its madness. I also doubt you will see any money reinvested into your club

Wow £15M, madness

23 years old. 31 goals in 59 Championship games. Scottish international striker. Premier League experience.

That's the least we can expect.

Nope, its madness. I also doubt you will see any money reinvested into your club

Mad in what sense? How much in this market do you think a 23 year old striker with his goal record is worth then?

If he is sold for the 20m we want then I expect a quarter of that will be made available for a replacement with the rest servicing club shortfall and getting us onto a sound financial footing.

Wow £15M, madness

23 years old. 31 goals in 59 Championship games. Scottish international striker. Premier League experience.

That's the least we can expect.

Nope, its madness. I also doubt you will see any money reinvested into your club

Mad in what sense? How much in this market do you think a 23 year old striker with his goal record is worth then?

If he is sold for the 20m we want then I expect a quarter of that will be made available for a replacement with the rest servicing club shortfall and getting us onto a sound financial footing.

Have to say that your accusation of city fans trolling you is hilarious.
What club’s message board are you on???

To be fair if Aston Villa are paying £20m for an injury prone defender who couldn’t make the Bournemouth team I’m not sure £15m here is that bad a deal

BLADES’ FINAL McBURNIE BID


Sky Sports

Sheffield United will make a final £15m bid for Swansea forward Oliver McBurnie.

If the Blades fail with their final offer for the Scotland international, they will turn their attention to Brentford striker Neal Maupay.

He’s not worth 15k

Scruffy scotch who is too lazy to pull up his socks.

To be fair if Aston Villa are paying £20m for an injury prone defender who couldn’t make the Bournemouth team I’m not sure £15m here is that bad a deal

What’s wrong with signing players that can’t make the Bournemouth team?

Missing the point here ..... £15M and they could or don't want Madine for less than that ?????

To be fair if Aston Villa are paying £20m for an injury prone defender who couldn’t make the Bournemouth team I’m not sure £15m here is that bad a deal

What’s wrong with signing players that can’t make the Bournemouth team?

Nothing. But paying £20m for one is just proof of how inflated the market is and £15m for McBurnie isn’t a terrible deal in the current climate

Have to say that your accusation of city fans trolling you is hilarious.
What club’s message board are you on???

I would encourage you to stick to the topic please, you can always PM me something if you want to know something off topic or indeed start a new thread. However I will respond out of politeness.

It is not an accusation, it’s an observation. It doesn’t matter what team you support, the banner at the top of the forum says “all fans welcome”. If I say something and someone decides to troll... it’s still trolling whether they support Cardiff City or Caersws.

But this thread is about Oli McBurnie.

To be fair if Aston Villa are paying £20m for an injury prone defender who couldn’t make the Bournemouth team I’m not sure £15m here is that bad a deal

The market has moved on significantly.

£15m is probably about par for a striker of Oli’s calibre. We sold Joe Allen for the same amount the best part of a decade ago and goalscoring strikers are far more valuable in the market.

Jack, I have to agree with you on most things there to be fair and i also think the yanks plan to reap big bucks from the ex-. Council ground backfired big time due to relegation, what's the latest on the extension? Take it that's on hold?

As for strikers, you are spot on, the markets are ridiculously high as they are for most positions, you only have to look at 75m for the Leicester lad, c'mon

Jack, I have to agree with you on most things there to be fair and i also think the yanks plan to reap big bucks from the ex-. Council ground backfired big time due to relegation, what's the latest on the extension? Take it that's on hold?

As for strikers, you are spot on, the markets are ridiculously high as they are for most positions, you only have to look at 75m for the Leicester lad, c'mon

Jules I agree, 15m would be a result for Sheff Utd, they would be hard pushed to find anyone better for cheaper. They are probably hoping we fold as we currently need a bit of money, and we may well still do.

As for the expansion, that most certainly won't happen while we are in the Championship. I also can't help but feel we have missed the boat with that too. After our second season in the PL I think we could have sold out 28,000+ every week, as time went on people got used to doing other things and also got used to us being at that level and think the demand naturally waned.

If we get promoted then I think an expansion from 21,500 to 26,000 will probably be sufficient and would be touch and go whether we would sell out every week, my guess is that we probably wouldn't for the less glamorous ties.

We would love to have a goalsorer with that record .
What I don’t understand is why Cardiff always sell their players on the cheap, we never seem to get big money and make big profits on players , yes we have recuperated big fees but we never bring them through and sell on for big money . For me even Ramsay went too cheap . Btw I don’t want to see us sell anyone atm unless it’s an under performing player.

We would love to have a goalsorer with that record .
What I don’t understand is why Cardiff always sell their players on the cheap, we never seem to get big money and make big profits on players , yes we have recuperated big fees but we never bring them through and sell on for big money . For me even Ramsay went too cheap . Btw I don’t want to see us sell anyone atm unless it’s an under performing player.

Because we never have anyone who's worth big bucks to bigger clubs! We seem to operate in the middle range market so never going to sell players for large amounts with very rare exemptions like gistede

Can see where he is coming from.. Re the self-funded Training, Academy facilities etc. The Problem they have is their Stadium. As its, I believe, Council owned what they will get for McBurnie will in all probabilities get them a mid table finish. So, will need a like for like player who would cost less in the transfer fee and, on low wages.

That's where the Training facilities and Academy come to the fore. A solid Base from which to find your 20 to 30 goal a season Championship player.

With City having their Training and Academy facility passing its Planning stage, watch us get the best talent there is in South Wales. With our Stadium being owned, that can only be a stepping stone to produce the £15m Mcburnies of this world, who I may add, is average at best.

I would say it is probably more a case of you tend to hold on to players for too long where as we don't seem to be afraid of selling players at their peak. The only player I can think of that we didn't cash in on was Michu and that backfired on us. Trundle, Scotland, Sinclair, Allen, Bony, Gylfi, Williams, Davies (probably more I have forgotten) and now James and possibly McBurnie are all examples of us selling key players at peak value.

This probably goes back to Ledley for you guys and has been a theme to this day when you look at what you could have maybe got for Zohore 18 months ago. Not a criticism but just different approaches from the two clubs.