Brexit - Deal or No Deal ?

What do you think will happen?


Deal
I reckon the EU will realise Boris will do it, and a last-minute Malthouse type Backstop amendment will go through and we will break free?

Some sort of deal.. what it will be not sure

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

deal without the withdrawal agreement once ,boris gets in ,may was too weak

The trade that takes place between the EU and USA makes our trade figures with the EU look like loose change. Don't ever recall the USA being part of the EU.

They want to preserve the project Steve. It’s why they’re gerrymandering.

The trade that takes place between the EU and USA makes our trade figures with the EU look like loose change. Don't ever recall the USA being part of the EU.

britain is the biggest exporter to the usa from the eu tho got to take into account once we leave, also we are the biggest export market from the eu one 5th of all eu exports come to Britain

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

If remain was an option in the event of another referendum, I would not bother wasting my time to vote. I voted the last time, and if Parliament choose to ignore that vote, I have no doubt that they would ignore me the next time as I have not changed my mind. The way I see things is that until I vote the way Parliament want me to vote, my vote will count for nothing.

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

If remain was an option in the event of another referendum, I would not bother wasting my time to vote. I voted the last time, and if Parliament choose to ignore that vote, I have no doubt that they would ignore me the next time as I have not changed my mind. The way I see things is that until I vote the way Parliament want me to vote, my vote will count for nothing.

Mark Twain once said “if voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it “.
Looking at figures for the Eurozone (the one all the “experts” told us we must join) show that only Germany and Holland have benefited from joining. Everyone else are far worse off. It’s a busted flush and will crumble when we leave, deal or no deal.

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

How would remain rig the vote? I do seem to recall that the leave campaign have been found guilty of breaking the law so maybe it's safer to assume that they'd do it again.
The first referendum was advisory and how will we know what the 'will of the people' is if the only option available is Theresa Mays deal? (Assuming no deal is also not there because that too was rejected, even by the leave campaign, back in 2016)

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

How would remain rig the vote? I do seem to recall that the leave campaign have been found guilty of breaking the law so maybe it's safer to assume that they'd do it again.
The first referendum was advisory and how will we know what the 'will of the people' is if the only option available is Theresa Mays deal? (Assuming no deal is also not there because that too was rejected, even by the leave campaign, back in 2016)

If the first referndum was advisory, it was a once in a lifetime advisory referendum, or so we were told. The government also spent a lot of time and money on sending a leaflet to every household in Britain telling us of the consequences if we voted to leave in this advisory referendum. Of course, we were not told it was only an advisory referendum until after the result was known. If I had been told it was advisory only, I would not have wasted my time in visiting the polling station as the government had made their views perfectly clear. An awful lot of time and expense for something which was no more than advisory. You would think that time and money could have been spent better elsewhere.

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

How would remain rig the vote? I do seem to recall that the leave campaign have been found guilty of breaking the law so maybe it's safer to assume that they'd do it again.
The first referendum was advisory and how will we know what the 'will of the people' is if the only option available is Theresa Mays deal? (Assuming no deal is also not there because that too was rejected, even by the leave campaign, back in 2016)

If the first referndum was advisory, it was a once in a lifetime advisory referendum, or so we were told. The government also spent a lot of time and money on sending a leaflet to every household in Britain telling us of the consequences if we voted to leave in this advisory referendum. Of course, we were not told it was only an advisory referendum until after the result was known. If I had been told it was advisory only, I would not have wasted my time in visiting the polling station as the government had made their views perfectly clear. An awful lot of time and expense for something which was no more than advisory. You would think that time and money could have been spent better elsewhere.

It says in the official documents before the vote that it's advisory and any referendum in the UK is advisory (unless it's taken to court I believe).
The conservatives have their own magic money tree so can always throw away money instead of using it on public services

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

How would remain rig the vote? I do seem to recall that the leave campaign have been found guilty of breaking the law so maybe it's safer to assume that they'd do it again.
The first referendum was advisory and how will we know what the 'will of the people' is if the only option available is Theresa Mays deal? (Assuming no deal is also not there because that too was rejected, even by the leave campaign, back in 2016)

If the first referndum was advisory, it was a once in a lifetime advisory referendum, or so we were told. The government also spent a lot of time and money on sending a leaflet to every household in Britain telling us of the consequences if we voted to leave in this advisory referendum. Of course, we were not told it was only an advisory referendum until after the result was known. If I had been told it was advisory only, I would not have wasted my time in visiting the polling station as the government had made their views perfectly clear. An awful lot of time and expense for something which was no more than advisory. You would think that time and money could have been spent better elsewhere.

It says in the official documents before the vote that it's advisory and any referendum in the UK is advisory (unless it's taken to court I believe).
The conservatives have their own magic money tree so can always throw away money instead of using it on public services

If it is only advisory why the fck have we spent 3 yrs deciding on how we leave? why not just forget the referendum if that's the case because it's not legally binding is it?

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

How would remain rig the vote? I do seem to recall that the leave campaign have been found guilty of breaking the law so maybe it's safer to assume that they'd do it again.
The first referendum was advisory and how will we know what the 'will of the people' is if the only option available is Theresa Mays deal? (Assuming no deal is also not there because that too was rejected, even by the leave campaign, back in 2016)

If the first referndum was advisory, it was a once in a lifetime advisory referendum, or so we were told. The government also spent a lot of time and money on sending a leaflet to every household in Britain telling us of the consequences if we voted to leave in this advisory referendum. Of course, we were not told it was only an advisory referendum until after the result was known. If I had been told it was advisory only, I would not have wasted my time in visiting the polling station as the government had made their views perfectly clear. An awful lot of time and expense for something which was no more than advisory. You would think that time and money could have been spent better elsewhere.

It says in the official documents before the vote that it's advisory and any referendum in the UK is advisory (unless it's taken to court I believe).
The conservatives have their own magic money tree so can always throw away money instead of using it on public services

The info sent to every household made no reference to this being advisory. It is available on the internet right now. The following bit was copied, and it clearly states the government will implement what we decide. Had they said they would consider implementing whatever was decided, I am sure many of us would not have wasted our time voting, as we were well aware what the Government position was. If "remain" had won, I doubt if the word advisory would have ever cropped up.

"The referendum on Thursday, 23rd June is your chance to decide if we should remain in or leave the European Union.The Government believes it is in the best interests of the UK to remain in the EU. This is the way to protect jobs, provide security, and strengthen the UK’s economy for every family in this country – a clear path into the future, in contrast to the uncertainty of leaving.This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide".

Can you understand that Josh?

Can you understand that Josh?

No chance he is the guru on all things Brexit

Can you understand that Josh?

I understood it in the first place, all I said was that the referendum (like all UK referendums) was advisory. I didn't make a comment on it or anything but people have decided to ignore 95% of my post to randomly focus on that.
Can you understand that?

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

The problem with a second referendum is remain want to rig the vote. Somehow remain is supposed to be on the ballot paper even though that was rejected in 2016. Remain also want May's deal as an option knowing how deeply unpopular it was with leave voters and for good measure no deal will also appear so the leave vote is split.

Any second referendum must not involve an option to remain. The UK must first implement the 2016 result and another referendum must only have options on how we leave the EU.

Once leave has been implemented then remain can lobby for another in/out referendum after a reasonable amount of time, generally 10 years at the very least.

How would remain rig the vote? I do seem to recall that the leave campaign have been found guilty of breaking the law so maybe it's safer to assume that they'd do it again.
The first referendum was advisory and how will we know what the 'will of the people' is if the only option available is Theresa Mays deal? (Assuming no deal is also not there because that too was rejected, even by the leave campaign, back in 2016)

If the first referndum was advisory, it was a once in a lifetime advisory referendum, or so we were told. The government also spent a lot of time and money on sending a leaflet to every household in Britain telling us of the consequences if we voted to leave in this advisory referendum. Of course, we were not told it was only an advisory referendum until after the result was known. If I had been told it was advisory only, I would not have wasted my time in visiting the polling station as the government had made their views perfectly clear. An awful lot of time and expense for something which was no more than advisory. You would think that time and money could have been spent better elsewhere.

It says in the official documents before the vote that it's advisory and any referendum in the UK is advisory (unless it's taken to court I believe).
The conservatives have their own magic money tree so can always throw away money instead of using it on public services

You do know that leaving is in law now ? The only thing thats being debated is the withdrawal agreement but a new government could just pull us out without a vote

well when we end up inevitably getting a second vote I hope the age is lowered and there’s an upwards cap. not having an entire generations future decided by 80 year olds

well when we end up inevitably getting a second vote I hope the age is lowered and there’s an upwards cap. not having an entire generations future decided by 80 year olds

Is there 17m 80yr olds in country who voted out? And are there no 80yr olds who voted remain? But lowering age to say 5yr old might make more sense...

The only way they’ll have a second referendum is if the poll was put to joe public with 2 options deal or no deal otherwise it will just make a mockery of the voting system. Personally I don’t think it will get that far as Boris is adamant that, if he is PM by the time the next leave date is due, we leave with no deal as the deal isn’t going to change.

well when we end up inevitably getting a second vote I hope the age is lowered and there’s an upwards cap. not having an entire generations future decided by 80 year olds

Is there 17m 80yr olds in country who voted out? And are there no 80yr olds who voted remain? But lowering age to say 5yr old might make more sense...

I don't think we will leave at least not without another referendum.

^^^THIS^^^

I voted OUT and would again; but staying in is better than a contrived 'deal'

The only way they’ll have a second referendum is if the poll was put to joe public with 2 options deal or no deal otherwise it will just make a mockery of the voting system. Personally I don’t think it will get that far as Boris is adamant that, if he is PM by the time the next leave date is due, we leave with no deal as the deal isn’t going to change.

Unfortunately the idea behind the 2nd vote IS that on ballot paper will be the question Remain in EU? The people vote is a con by remainers to have a 2nd referendum by back door

The only way they’ll have a second referendum is if the poll was put to joe public with 2 options deal or no deal otherwise it will just make a mockery of the voting system. Personally I don’t think it will get that far as Boris is adamant that, if he is PM by the time the next leave date is due, we leave with no deal as the deal isn’t going to change.

Unfortunately the idea behind the 2nd vote IS that on ballot paper will be the question Remain in EU? The people vote is a con by remainers to have a 2nd referendum by back door

The day that happens the day democracy in the UK dies

The only way they’ll have a second referendum is if the poll was put to joe public with 2 options deal or no deal otherwise it will just make a mockery of the voting system. Personally I don’t think it will get that far as Boris is adamant that, if he is PM by the time the next leave date is due, we leave with no deal as the deal isn’t going to change.

Unfortunately the idea behind the 2nd vote IS that on ballot paper will be the question Remain in EU? The people vote is a con by remainers to have a 2nd referendum by back door

The day that happens the day democracy in the UK dies

This is why it wont happen with Johnson or hunt if you believe their rhetoric? Labour only interested in themselves not democracy.

The only way they’ll have a second referendum is if the poll was put to joe public with 2 options deal or no deal otherwise it will just make a mockery of the voting system. Personally I don’t think it will get that far as Boris is adamant that, if he is PM by the time the next leave date is due, we leave with no deal as the deal isn’t going to change.

Unfortunately the idea behind the 2nd vote IS that on ballot paper will be the question Remain in EU? The people vote is a con by remainers to have a 2nd referendum by back door

The day that happens the day democracy in the UK dies

This is why it wont happen with Johnson or hunt if you believe their rhetoric? Labour only interested in themselves not democracy.

I’ve lost all faith in Labour under Corbyn, they’re so far from where they were under Kinnock and Blair it’s hard to believe they’re the same party.

As for Hunt and Bo Jo, Hunt wants to remain and doesn’t want to push the deal but will attempt to push the deal TM secured through... how he will manage that I’m not sure because it’s been rejected 3 times and can’t be voted on in parliament again, he won’t leave with No Deal opting to remain against the public vote, Bo Jo we all know will leave with No Deal if push comes to shove... the question is though which one is better for the country as PM.... and which one would stand the better chance of winning a GE for the conservatives.... bear in mind that the last 2 elections they actually lost.... the ConDem government labour actually won the majority seats and Lib Dem’s chose the better deal on the table and the last one if you look at the actual voting figures conservatives overall vote was less than all other parties (if that makes sense)

The only way they’ll have a second referendum is if the poll was put to joe public with 2 options deal or no deal otherwise it will just make a mockery of the voting system. Personally I don’t think it will get that far as Boris is adamant that, if he is PM by the time the next leave date is due, we leave with no deal as the deal isn’t going to change.

Unfortunately the idea behind the 2nd vote IS that on ballot paper will be the question Remain in EU? The people vote is a con by remainers to have a 2nd referendum by back door

The day that happens the day democracy in the UK dies

This is why it wont happen with Johnson or hunt if you believe their rhetoric? Labour only interested in themselves not democracy.

I’ve lost all faith in Labour under Corbyn, they’re so far from where they were under Kinnock and Blair it’s hard to believe they’re the same party.

As for Hunt and Bo Jo, Hunt wants to remain and doesn’t want to push the deal but will attempt to push the deal TM secured through... how he will manage that I’m not sure because it’s been rejected 3 times and can’t be voted on in parliament again, he won’t leave with No Deal opting to remain against the public vote, Bo Jo we all know will leave with No Deal if push comes to shove... the question is though which one is better for the country as PM.... and which one would stand the better chance of winning a GE for the conservatives.... bear in mind that the last 2 elections they actually lost.... the ConDem government labour actually won the majority seats and Lib Dem’s chose the better deal on the table and the last one if you look at the actual voting figures conservatives overall vote was less than all other parties (if that makes sense)

Hunt is sitting on a barbed wire fence and will do what he needs to do to keep himself in office if got there? All hes said is he will extend deadline if deal close so unless EU change mind about renegotiating deal he will have to choose no deal or break his campaign pledge

Can you understand that Josh?

I understood it in the first place, all I said was that the referendum (like all UK referendums) was advisory. I didn't make a comment on it or anything but people have decided to ignore 95% of my post to randomly focus on that.
Can you understand that?

You lost get over it, there will be no losers re-vote!