Craig Bryson

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I don't know whether he'd come back after the way we dumped him, but I'd certainly have him back especially given the level where we seem to be pitching our ambitions to replace Camarassa, Arter and. Gunnarsson

Did we dump him? His loan ended and he went back to his parent club.

That said. I'd have him back on a free.

Well if reports at the time are to be believed they offered him for a small fee and he was keen - and expected the move, but we pulled out. Of course I don't know whether that's true and I hope not because he was very committed to us

Well if reports at the time are to be believed they offered him for a small fee and he was keen - and expected the move, but we pulled out. Of course I don't know whether that's true and I hope not because he was very committed to us

He is quoted as saying he wanted to stay at Derby and fight for his place.

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I don't know whether he'd come back after the way we dumped him, but I'd certainly have him back especially given the level where we seem to be pitching our ambitions to replace Camarassa, Arter and. Gunnarsson

Not sure what the real reasons were when he went back - But this could be a good call .

Let's try and move forward not take backwards steps, eh!

Craig Bryson is a player who I'll always remember for running around A LOT, he had great stamina but he was never able to put his foot on the ball and his passing wasn't the best either. Whenever he started for us, we would invariably struggle to keep possession.

Let's try and move forward not take backwards steps, eh!

Craig Bryson is a player who I'll always remember for running around A LOT, he had great stamina but he was never able to put his foot on the ball and his passing wasn't the best either. Whenever he started for us, we would invariably struggle to keep possession.

Didn't we struggle for possession every game

Let's try and move forward not take backwards steps, eh!

Craig Bryson is a player who I'll always remember for running around A LOT, he had great stamina but he was never able to put his foot on the ball and his passing wasn't the best either. Whenever he started for us, we would invariably struggle to keep possession.

Didn't we struggle for possession every game

No, not in every game but, yeah.. a lot of them. When Bryson started or came on as a sub he had nothing about him to improve our poor ball-retention.

Some perfectly valid points there, but given the standard of players we seem to be going after, Bryson would be better,specially as a squad player.

Vaulks is about the lowest point we should be considering ( though I think he's got great potential ) and it's scaring me reading these reports about looking at third and fourth division players. I'm hoping I'm going to read about some decent signings soon, otherwise it's over as far as pushing straight back into the premiership.

With what we've got plus proper midfield replacements we should be able to win the Championship as convincingly as Wolves did, but not if we water it down with lower league cloggers.

Let's try and move forward not take backwards steps, eh!

Craig Bryson is a player who I'll always remember for running around A LOT, he had great stamina but he was never able to put his foot on the ball and his passing wasn't the best either. Whenever he started for us, we would invariably struggle to keep possession.

Didn't we struggle for possession every game

yes we did ,our game wasn't based on possession or wasn't last season ..Arter was just a better version of Bryson .

take him all day long ,a good grafter ,good championship player ,we are not a premier league team anymore we need top championship players who will help.us out of this division,

Not for me.

He's a Poundland Harry Arter.

Let's try and move forward not take backwards steps, eh!

Craig Bryson is a player who I'll always remember for running around A LOT, he had great stamina but he was never able to put his foot on the ball and his passing wasn't the best either. Whenever he started for us, we would invariably struggle to keep possession.

Didn't we struggle for possession every game

yes we did ,our game wasn't based on possession or wasn't last season ..Arter was just a better version of Bryson .

Very true, I think Arter had more to his locker we didn't get to see because of how we played mind.
I'd love Arter back although doubt it will happen.

Some perfectly valid points there, but given the standard of players we seem to be going after, Bryson would be better,specially as a squad player.

Vaulks is about the lowest point we should be considering ( though I think he's got great potential ) and it's scaring me reading these reports about looking at third and fourth division players. I'm hoping I'm going to read about some decent signings soon, otherwise it's over as far as pushing straight back into the premiership.

With what we've got plus proper midfield replacements we should be able to win the Championship as convincingly as Wolves did, but not if we water it down with lower league cloggers.

Why does it matter where the players are coming from?

The only thing that matters are if the players are good enough.

The “lower league cloggers” got us promoted last time.

Short memories as usual on here.

Some perfectly valid points there, but given the standard of players we seem to be going after, Bryson would be better,specially as a squad player.

Vaulks is about the lowest point we should be considering ( though I think he's got great potential ) and it's scaring me reading these reports about looking at third and fourth division players. I'm hoping I'm going to read about some decent signings soon, otherwise it's over as far as pushing straight back into the premiership.

With what we've got plus proper midfield replacements we should be able to win the Championship as convincingly as Wolves did, but not if we water it down with lower league cloggers.

Why does it matter where the players are coming from?

The only thing that matters are if the players are good enough.

The “lower league cloggers” got us promoted last time.

Short memories as usual on here.

It matters because the two lower leagues are much easier and it's a big jump . Obviously some do it, but a lot can't and were not in the business of hoping for the best any more.
I think it's hard to call many of our promotion team lower league cloggers actually, and they're certainly not that any more.

We were very unlucky to get relegated and we're very close to premiership standard already, so we've got to set the bar high at this point if we want to make the most of that.

I believe that we're close to completing a long hard March to sustained premiership football but that's easily buggered up if we don't insist upon improvement , which is unlikely to come from paying small fees for unaccomplished players who MIGHT be okay.

I don't apply this to Vaulks by the way, who I think might be a big player, but even then he's a punt. I know it's going to be hard to attract top players, but personally I'd be looking at players with premiership experience who are maybe getting a bit old rather than upcoming hopefuls. We need solid !

Some perfectly valid points there, but given the standard of players we seem to be going after, Bryson would be better,specially as a squad player.

Vaulks is about the lowest point we should be considering ( though I think he's got great potential ) and it's scaring me reading these reports about looking at third and fourth division players. I'm hoping I'm going to read about some decent signings soon, otherwise it's over as far as pushing straight back into the premiership.

With what we've got plus proper midfield replacements we should be able to win the Championship as convincingly as Wolves did, but not if we water it down with lower league cloggers.

Why does it matter where the players are coming from?

The only thing that matters are if the players are good enough.

The “lower league cloggers” got us promoted last time.

Short memories as usual on here.

It matters because the two lower leagues are much easier and it's a big jump . Obviously some do it, but a lot can't and were not in the business of hoping for the best any more.
I think it's hard to call many of our promotion team lower league cloggers actually, and they're certainly not that any more.

We were very unlucky to get relegated and we're very close to premiership standard already, so we've got to set the bar high at this point if we want to make the most of that.

I believe that we're close to completing a long hard March to sustained premiership football but that's easily buggered up if we don't insist upon improvement , which is unlikely to come from paying small fees for unaccomplished players who MIGHT be okay.

I don't apply this to Vaulks by the way, who I think might be a big player, but even then he's a punt. I know it's going to be hard to attract top players, but personally I'd be looking at players with premiership experience who are maybe getting a bit old rather than upcoming hopefuls. We need solid !

Yeah you missed the part where I said it only matters if the players are good enough.

Old past it Premier League players looking for there last pay day isn’t what we need.

We need good young hungry players who are good enough for the championship and improve.

Any players good enough for the premier league aren’t going to sign for a championship club.

Sir Jimmy, I totally agree with your last post. We should not be looking to bolster the team with lower league players in the hope that they can transform into top performers.

As you say, we are not that far away from producing a team that can sustain a regular Prem League place, so an influx of sub standard lower leaguers is most definitely not what is required.

We should be looking to get the best players available to us, whether that is from the Premier League or from the top leagues abroad.

I accept that our current status makes us a less attractive proposition than last year but our profile has rocketed in the last 10 years or so and thus we should be looking further afield for quality recruits.

I'm with Llan on this give me an NML over a Robbie Fowler any day of the week.

I agree with Sir Jimmy's point that we already have are already close to premiership standard but come to a different conclusion.

What got us promoted and nearly kept us up was the unity and togetherness of the side. Bringing in some big-time Charlies no longer good enough to be attractive for a Premier league side who are looking for one last hurrah (and paycheck) could be damaging to that balance.

We have solid championship options in attack and defence, we need to strengthen midfield - Vaulks will be a cracking signing and exactly what we need if it goes through and then one Marquee signing for the engine room (renewing our interest in Tameze would be a good option maybe) and we are competitive all across the pitch.

Anyone else that comes in should be coming in to fight for the position - so younger hungrier players to come into the fringe prepared to fight for a shot at the first team is preferable.

This lad from Oxford, if he comes, is a good example. Even if Manga goes (which I really hope he doesn't) he will still have to get ahead of Bamba and Morrisson to start plus Cunnigham (and Peltier to a lesser degree) have played at centre back as well. Whichever, way you look at it that is a solid position for us so why bring in someone from a higher league to compete for a position we are already strong within.

Same goes for our wing options - NML and Murphy are two of the best in the division, as is Hoilett if he stays and Harris is capable at this level also. If Harris or Hoilett leave then this could be another area to spend bigger on but as it is currently it isn't a priority area.

I'd go as far as to say the same for our strikers, although I know many will disagree but Patterson, Zohore, Ward, Decodva Reid, and Madine are all good enough to give us options not forgetting Healey who despite the flack he gets I have a feeling could come good.

The most important thing for me is that whoever comes in they have the right ethos and mentality. Our success has been built on dogged tenacity as much as anything else - and we are more likely to see that in players who are stepping up from other championship sides or league one than we are players coming down from the Prem.

Of course, it's horses for courses and as LLan says it doesn't matter where they are from, it matters whether they are good enough but I'd be shying away from ageing Prem players personally.

32 now - Need fresh legs in the engine room
Its a no from me

Signed for Aberdeen.

I see that the question of Craig Bryson is settled.

Nonetheless there were some great postings there by several intelligent contributors . I stick to my opinion that we're better off at this point with established players, but the opposite view is valid too.
Both sides made great arguments there and I think this is exactly the kind of discussion everyone can enjoy and appreciate !