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Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:07 pm
Not a terrible result but defensively we look all over the place at times. Id personally drop James Lawrence who I thought was awful against Croatia and doesn't seem to like a tackle and bring in some experience in the back line in Ashley Williams. Id probably drop Will Vaulks as well who didn't do a lot and Matthew Smith for Ethan Ampadu who yet again bossed the midfield when he came on and played some great cross field passes, and balls between the lines as well as picking up the second ball. And Brooks should obviously start as well. Think we'll beat Hungary but we really need a better shape at the back. Feel we really missed Ramsey as well who links the midfield and attack so well. Oh well we go again
Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:27 pm
Bluebird Warrior wrote:Not a terrible result but defensively we look all over the place at times. Id personally drop James Lawrence who I thought was awful against Croatia and doesn't seem to like a tackle and bring in some experience in the back line in Ashley Williams. Id probably drop Will Vaulks as well who didn't do a lot and Matthew Smith for Ethan Ampadu who yet again bossed the midfield when he came on and played some great cross field passes, and balls between the lines as well as picking up the second ball. And Brooks should obviously start as well. Think we'll beat Hungary but we really need a better shape at the back. Feel we really missed Ramsey as well who links the midfield and attack so well. Oh well we go again

Problem is we've got a very young side a new manager and both need time to get and be comfortable with get plan, at times looked all over the place but a bit of tinkering 2nd half changed way we played and we could got something out of this! Overall gives us something to build on, and we mustn't forget how good they are at home not lost 5yrs or something and never at this stadium.....
Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:47 pm
Centre of defence looked all over the place but they weren't given too much protection which I think Ampadu would have provided. Game changed completely when Ampadu and Brookes came on. Not sure why neither started. Brookes was a candidate for young player of the year so unless they were not fully fit, this was a strange one.
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:12 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Centre of defence looked all over the place but they weren't given too much protection which I think Ampadu would have provided. Game changed completely when Ampadu and Brookes came on. Not sure why neither started. Brookes was a candidate for young player of the year so unless they were not fully fit, this was a strange one.
According to TV they were not 100% fit to last 90mins! Easy to criticise Giggs for not playing them but mustn't forget got game Tues as well.. when Giggs changed it slightly we looked more comfortable like said had chances to get a point out of it which considering age/experience of our team is not bad effort.
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:02 pm
Most defences will be all over the shop against Croatia.
There a much better side then we are.
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:35 pm
Croatia are a quality team, we took them to the wire and should of had a draw minimum imo. Giggs May of made a mistake with team selection and formation, surely brooks to start he’s one of our best midfielders. Bale needs to be used more further back, our best player needs the ball more. A win or draw away to Hungary will be fine.
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:35 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:Croatia are a quality team, we took them to the wire and should of had a draw minimum imo. Giggs May of made a mistake with team selection and formation, surely brooks to start he’s one of our best midfielders. Bale needs to be used more further back, our best player needs the ball more. A win or draw away to Hungary will be fine.
We didn't take them to the wire in any way shape or form. We were 2nd best for most of the game and while Croatia are a good side I cant help but feel Wales were poor and didn't take advantage of when we had the ball.
Bale was awful again for us considering how he can play.
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:42 pm
Charlie Harper wrote:BobbyBlue wrote:Croatia are a quality team, we took them to the wire and should of had a draw minimum imo. Giggs May of made a mistake with team selection and formation, surely brooks to start he’s one of our best midfielders. Bale needs to be used more further back, our best player needs the ball more. A win or draw away to Hungary will be fine.
We didn't take them to the wire in any way shape or form. We were 2nd best for most of the game and while Croatia are a good side I cant help but feel Wales were poor and didn't take advantage of when we had the ball.
Bale was awful again for us considering how he can play.
May not have taken them to the wire but cannot say we should gave scored several times and draw wouldn't have been an injustice? Difficult to say we were poor all game considering the opposition we did have a much better 2nd half, as for bale been like it for quite few games I feel he is being played to deep if we are not going to have out and out striker him playing on the shoulder of last man far more effective where he can break hold ball up for others to come into play we do have very mobile players in that respect and also he can cut in very effectively, this us a very young side as well but overall we were unlucky not to draw but can do better of course ..
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:52 pm
Wrong formation, wrong team and vitality wrong Manager!
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:38 pm
Bale , Wilson and James isolated for most of the first half while we tried to play out from the back and through our 2nd rate midfield against World Cup finalists...Giggs needs to alter tactics depending on opposition and who he has fit.
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:36 am
We look very lightweight and far too many underdeveloped youngsters, need to beef a few of them up in the gym. Ampadu looks quality but other than that I thought we look pretty poor.
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:47 am
Wales have to play a 4231 formation and stop messing about at the back trying to be Man City or Barcelona.
Play the strongest 11 no matter of age, 433 does not work with these players as out midfield gets bypassed. We need 5 in midfield with pace out wide
Hennessy
Robert's
Mepham
William's
Davies
Ampadu
Allen
James
Ramsey/Lawrence
Brooks
Bale
Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:36 am
There's little point in having Bale and the other great attackers if we don't get them the ball. Why have defenders that aren't natural ball players playing out from the back. Giggs was the wrong choice and the moral and tactics have suffered since he took over
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:03 pm
BAMBA CREW wrote:There's little point in having Bale and the other great attackers if we don't get them the ball. Why have defenders that aren't natural ball players playing out from the back. Giggs was the wrong choice and the moral and tactics have suffered since he took over
that was my view on it too. not sure about moral. but his tactics are total football no matter who your playing or who is unavailable...those 3 looked a real for any team to have threat but when pass number 9 is Connor Roberts to Hennessy you might as well have 3 fans up front..
I wasn't anti Giggs but im getting there..
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:53 pm
BAMBA CREW wrote:There's little point in having Bale and the other great attackers if we don't get them the ball. Why have defenders that aren't natural ball players playing out from the back. Giggs was the wrong choice and the moral and tactics have suffered since he took over
Warnock should go and give him some lessons in how it’s done.
Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:47 pm
Giggs was the cheap option, whereas he may be ready in the future I’m sure he will be, why should the national team be his training ground for his career, atleast try a league 1 or championship team first to ply your trade.
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:01 pm
BobbyBlue wrote:Giggs was the cheap option, whereas he may be ready in the future I’m sure he will be, why should the national team be his training ground for his career, atleast try a league 1 or championship team first to ply your trade.
The FAW are not wealthy mate. its always going to be this sort of manager as its not a well paid job..
its always going to be an ex player trying to get a foothold on the managerial ladder or someone who has managed but hasn't had work for sometime and is no longer even being linked as a possible manager for club vacancies..
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