' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:19 pm
Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise?
BBC
Tuesday 23rd April 2019
Cardiff City are hoping for a boost when Premier League relegation rivals Brighton and Southampton play tonight.
The Bluebirds are 18th, three points behind Brighton, with the Saints two points above the Seagulls.
Cardiff will hope Brighton lose at Tottenham Hotspur this evening, while Southampton are at Watford.
If they go down, Cardiff could renew rivalries with Swansea City in the Championship - although Graham Potter's team can still make the play-offs.
A 1-0 win at Ipswich ended the Swans' worst Championship away run and revived their chances of a late push for the top six.
Swansea are five points outside the play-offs with three games to play.
Hull City visit the Liberty Stadium on Saturday, 27 April followed by games against Derby County and Blackburn Rovers.
Swansea will need to finish their season in style and hope their five competitors in the race for the last available play-off place slip up.
Brighton and Southampton's Tuesday night encounters are games in hand and defeat for either team would give Neil Warnock's side a boost before they go to Fulham on Saturday.
Nine more points are available to the Bluebirds, who complete their season with games against Fulham, Crystal Palace and Manchester United.
Managers on the run-ins
Neil Warnock's Cardiff won 2-0 at Brighton last week to revive hopes of Premier League survival
Battle for Premier League survival
Cardiff fixtures Brighton fixtures Southampton fixtures
Tottenham (A) Watford (A)
Fulham (A) Newcastle (H) Bournemouth (H)
Crystal Palace (H) Arsenal (A) West Ham (A)
Man Utd (A) Man City (H) Huddersfield (H)
NEIL WARNOCK:
Neil Warnock, Cardiff City: "Brighton are going to play Newcastle, who have nothing to play for, so they will be looking at that game.
"We have got to play Fulham and Palace at home and Manchester United and do the best we can - that's all we can do.
"I would imagine we have got to get two wins and a draw. Anything is possible the way we are playing.
"We are more comfortable now in the Premier League than we were at the start of the season, but it's a stiff task."
Graham Potter's Swansea City have won five of their last six matches
Race for the Championship play-offs
Derby (6th, 67 points) Boro (7th, 67) Bristol City (8th, 66) Sheff Wed (9th, 63) Swansea (10th, 62)
Bristol City (A) Reading (H) Derby (H) Preston (A) Hull (H)
Swansea (A) Millwall (A) Derby (H)
West Brom (H) Rotherham (A) Hull (A) QPR (H) Blackburn (A)
Graham Potter, Swansea City: "The fact that we are going into the last week of the season and it's still a possibility, however slight it is, says a lot for the group.
"We have had to keep going at times - we have had to come back from setbacks.
"We are in good form at home. We have to win our next two games and then we'll see.
"71 points might not be enough - it's out of our hands. But we have a young team who need every opportunity to get experience and learn so we will focus on the next match and try to win."
Likelihood of a derby?
Cardiff and Swansea last went head to head in 2013-14, a campaign which saw the Bluebirds relegated from the Premier League.
If the bookmakers are to believed, Wales' top two clubs will be reunited next season - in the Championship.
Brighton's run-in looks very demanding - the Newcastle game aside, perhaps - but the bookies believe Chris Hughton's team will survive, with Cardiff odds-on to go down.
If Spurs triumph tonight, however, Warnock's men will have high hopes should they back up their recent away win at Brighton with another travelling triumph at Fulham on Saturday.
In the Championship, where Norwich and Sheffield United are firm favourites for automatic promotion, Leeds and Aston Villa are the two sides most fancied in the play-offs, ahead of West Brom.
Derby, Bristol City and Middlesbrough are all considered more likely to make it to the Premier League than Swansea, who are distant 100-1 shots at this stage.
Then again, Swansea would have momentum on their side should they scrape into the top six by winning their three remaining regular-season games.
They would not be the first team to make a spectacular, springtime push for promotion, even if the feeling is Potter's side have left it a little late.
All to play for in Wales
Cardiff and Swansea are not the only Welsh clubs with all to play for at this late stage in 2018-19.
Newport County are one of a host of clubs scrapping it out for a place in the League Two play-offs.
Michael Flynn's team are currently 11th, two points outside the top six, but have a game hand on every club above them.
Unbeaten in seven matches, the Exiles host champions Lincoln this weekend before facing Oldham (h) and Morecambe (a).
And in the National League, Wrexham are in the play-offs for the first time in six years as they look to return to the EFL.
Wrexham face Harrogate in their final regular-season game this Saturday with the play-offs to come next week.
BBC
Tuesday 23rd April 2019
Cardiff City are hoping for a boost when Premier League relegation rivals Brighton and Southampton play tonight.
The Bluebirds are 18th, three points behind Brighton, with the Saints two points above the Seagulls.
Cardiff will hope Brighton lose at Tottenham Hotspur this evening, while Southampton are at Watford.
If they go down, Cardiff could renew rivalries with Swansea City in the Championship - although Graham Potter's team can still make the play-offs.
A 1-0 win at Ipswich ended the Swans' worst Championship away run and revived their chances of a late push for the top six.
Swansea are five points outside the play-offs with three games to play.
Hull City visit the Liberty Stadium on Saturday, 27 April followed by games against Derby County and Blackburn Rovers.
Swansea will need to finish their season in style and hope their five competitors in the race for the last available play-off place slip up.
Brighton and Southampton's Tuesday night encounters are games in hand and defeat for either team would give Neil Warnock's side a boost before they go to Fulham on Saturday.
Nine more points are available to the Bluebirds, who complete their season with games against Fulham, Crystal Palace and Manchester United.
Managers on the run-ins
Neil Warnock's Cardiff won 2-0 at Brighton last week to revive hopes of Premier League survival
Battle for Premier League survival
Cardiff fixtures Brighton fixtures Southampton fixtures
Tottenham (A) Watford (A)
Fulham (A) Newcastle (H) Bournemouth (H)
Crystal Palace (H) Arsenal (A) West Ham (A)
Man Utd (A) Man City (H) Huddersfield (H)
NEIL WARNOCK:
Neil Warnock, Cardiff City: "Brighton are going to play Newcastle, who have nothing to play for, so they will be looking at that game.
"We have got to play Fulham and Palace at home and Manchester United and do the best we can - that's all we can do.
"I would imagine we have got to get two wins and a draw. Anything is possible the way we are playing.
"We are more comfortable now in the Premier League than we were at the start of the season, but it's a stiff task."
Graham Potter's Swansea City have won five of their last six matches
Race for the Championship play-offs
Derby (6th, 67 points) Boro (7th, 67) Bristol City (8th, 66) Sheff Wed (9th, 63) Swansea (10th, 62)
Bristol City (A) Reading (H) Derby (H) Preston (A) Hull (H)
Swansea (A) Millwall (A) Derby (H)
West Brom (H) Rotherham (A) Hull (A) QPR (H) Blackburn (A)
Graham Potter, Swansea City: "The fact that we are going into the last week of the season and it's still a possibility, however slight it is, says a lot for the group.
"We have had to keep going at times - we have had to come back from setbacks.
"We are in good form at home. We have to win our next two games and then we'll see.
"71 points might not be enough - it's out of our hands. But we have a young team who need every opportunity to get experience and learn so we will focus on the next match and try to win."
Likelihood of a derby?
Cardiff and Swansea last went head to head in 2013-14, a campaign which saw the Bluebirds relegated from the Premier League.
If the bookmakers are to believed, Wales' top two clubs will be reunited next season - in the Championship.
Brighton's run-in looks very demanding - the Newcastle game aside, perhaps - but the bookies believe Chris Hughton's team will survive, with Cardiff odds-on to go down.
If Spurs triumph tonight, however, Warnock's men will have high hopes should they back up their recent away win at Brighton with another travelling triumph at Fulham on Saturday.
In the Championship, where Norwich and Sheffield United are firm favourites for automatic promotion, Leeds and Aston Villa are the two sides most fancied in the play-offs, ahead of West Brom.
Derby, Bristol City and Middlesbrough are all considered more likely to make it to the Premier League than Swansea, who are distant 100-1 shots at this stage.
Then again, Swansea would have momentum on their side should they scrape into the top six by winning their three remaining regular-season games.
They would not be the first team to make a spectacular, springtime push for promotion, even if the feeling is Potter's side have left it a little late.
All to play for in Wales
Cardiff and Swansea are not the only Welsh clubs with all to play for at this late stage in 2018-19.
Newport County are one of a host of clubs scrapping it out for a place in the League Two play-offs.
Michael Flynn's team are currently 11th, two points outside the top six, but have a game hand on every club above them.
Unbeaten in seven matches, the Exiles host champions Lincoln this weekend before facing Oldham (h) and Morecambe (a).
And in the National League, Wrexham are in the play-offs for the first time in six years as they look to return to the EFL.
Wrexham face Harrogate in their final regular-season game this Saturday with the play-offs to come next week.
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Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:22 pm
No.
The most likely outcome is we go down and see them in the Championship next year.
Next likely is we survive and they stay down. They're relying on 4 teams above them messing up. We are relying on one.
Least likely is in the subject line above!
The most likely outcome is we go down and see them in the Championship next year.
Next likely is we survive and they stay down. They're relying on 4 teams above them messing up. We are relying on one.
Least likely is in the subject line above!
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:04 pm
Warnock says Brighton play Newcastle, who have nothing to play for. What a load of rubbish! Newcastle stand to gain an extra £5.7M by possibly moving three places up the table. Last season 'Merit Money' was £1.9M a place earning Chelsea £38M. even if Cardiff go down they will receive £5.7M not including parachute money.
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:36 pm
jimmy_rat wrote:No.
The most likely outcome is we go down and see them in the Championship next year.
Next likely is we survive and they stay down. They're relying on 4 teams above them messing up. We are relying on one.
Least likely is in the subject line above!
If they stay down they will be relying on arry potter to work magic on finding some more youngsters that can make it in championship as owners already indicated that they will sell again end season ....
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:54 pm
Hopefully 1) Yes we can 2) No they won't.
They have done remarkably well down West this season, but have 18 wins and 17 defeats so are mid table fodder really. Of course in the summer they'll sell everything that moves! We should bid for James, Roberts and Rodon, we'd get them for not much as they need the funds to get through the summer.
They could have Jazz Richards, Matt Connolly and Loic Damour from us, and Kadeem Harris instead of James.
They have done remarkably well down West this season, but have 18 wins and 17 defeats so are mid table fodder really. Of course in the summer they'll sell everything that moves! We should bid for James, Roberts and Rodon, we'd get them for not much as they need the funds to get through the summer.
They could have Jazz Richards, Matt Connolly and Loic Damour from us, and Kadeem Harris instead of James.
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:54 pm
Hopefully 1) Yes we can 2) No they won't.
They have done remarkably well down West this season, but have 18 wins and 17 defeats so are mid table fodder really. Of course in the summer they'll sell everything that moves! We should bid for James, Roberts and Rodon, we'd get them for not much as they need the funds to get through the summer.
They could have Jazz Richards, Matt Connolly and Loic Damour from us, and Kadeem Harris instead of James.
They have done remarkably well down West this season, but have 18 wins and 17 defeats so are mid table fodder really. Of course in the summer they'll sell everything that moves! We should bid for James, Roberts and Rodon, we'd get them for not much as they need the funds to get through the summer.
They could have Jazz Richards, Matt Connolly and Loic Damour from us, and Kadeem Harris instead of James.
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:33 pm
As a proud Welshman,I hope we stay in the Premier League and our other three Welsh teams gain promotion! Cymru am Byth!
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:44 pm
the odds on this double are roughly the same as the green party winning an overall majority in the next UK elections.
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:03 pm
dogfound wrote:the odds on this double are roughly the same as the green party winning an overall majority in the next UK elections.
Are you putting a £1 on it ?
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:40 pm
HarriRhys22 wrote:As a proud Welshman,I hope we stay in the Premier League and our other three Welsh teams gain promotion! Cymru am Byth!
Almost agree with you there. I don't have a problem with Swansea as a club, it's some of their idiot fans that cause issues and bad feeling.
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:01 pm
Jackflash wrote:Warnock says Brighton play Newcastle, who have nothing to play for. What a load of rubbish! Newcastle stand to gain an extra £5.7M by possibly moving three places up the table. Last season 'Merit Money' was £1.9M a place earning Chelsea £38M. even if Cardiff go down they will receive £5.7M not including parachute money.
I think he just means that they won’t go down but they’re not fighting for any high places either. Safety was the priority for them a few months ago
Re: ' Can Cardiff City survive and Swansea City rise? '
Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:12 pm
HarriRhys22 wrote:As a proud Welshman,I hope we stay in the Premier League and our other three Welsh teams gain promotion! Cymru am Byth!
Would like Cardiff to stay up
Swansea to remain a top half/Midtable championship team just so they can continue giving young welsh players a chance (Would be good for welsh football
)Newport to get promoted to League 1
Wrexham to finally get out that bloody conference, how they're still there I don't know.