For the fans who dont want Premier league football

We got to see Eden Hazard last weekend.

Tonight we are watching a masterclass by Kevin DeBruyne

Probably the best two midfielders in the world at the moment

Even though it's a hard watch how can you not enjoy watching these players play live.


It's hard to watch us lose most weeks and be in a relegation battle but it's a privilege to watch these players play against Cardiff.

We got to see Eden Hazard last weekend.

Tonight we are watching a masterclass by Kevin DeBruyne

Probably the best two midfielders in the world at the moment

Even though it's a hard watch how can you not enjoy watching these players play live.


It's hard to watch us lose most weeks and be in a relegation battle but it's a privilege to watch these players play against Cardiff.

I suppose it's like I said on another thread yesterday. It depends whether you are turning up to watch Cardiff, or the opposition. I would prefer us to stay in the top division, but I can understand fans preferring us to be fighting to actually win things rather than battling to avoid relegation. Obviously a lot of those who turn up are primarily there to watch the opposition as we know a lot of them will not be there next season if we are in the Championship.

But we never got to see spurs new stadium?

You got it right with 'fans' (mainly of the armchair type)

As the name suggests, it's 'supporters' who pay and turn up to watch the club

Football supporter: "a person who is actively interested in and wishes success for a particular football team"

We got to see Eden Hazard last weekend.

Tonight we are watching a masterclass by Kevin DeBruyne

Probably the best two midfielders in the world at the moment

Even though it's a hard watch how can you not enjoy watching these players play live.


It's hard to watch us lose most weeks and be in a relegation battle but it's a privilege to watch these players play against Cardiff.

I suppose it's like I said on another thread yesterday. It depends whether you are turning up to watch Cardiff, or the opposition. I would prefer us to stay in the top division, but I can understand fans preferring us to be fighting to actually win things rather than battling to avoid relegation. Obviously a lot of those who turn up are primarily there to watch the opposition as we know a lot of them will not be there next season if we are in the Championship.

I prefer us to be competitive and win things but getting the chance to see these players play the game is a huge plus to this league.

In all the years l supported this club I’ve never ever been interested in any opposition players when they turn out against my team they can all feck off

There's not one Cardiff fan that enjoyed watching that tonight. It was men against boys. This is my first season watching Premier League football due to boycotting previously and I'll be honest.... It's shite

In all the years l supported this club I’ve never ever been interested in any opposition players when they turn out against my team they can all feck off

If you cant enjoy watching a player of De Bruyne quality then your not a football fan .

Watching your team compete against players like that is why we pay higher ticket prices

I enjoy watching city no matter what league we are in but it makes it special to see these players imo

In all the years l supported this club I’ve never ever been interested in any opposition players when they turn out against my team they can all feck off

In all the years l supported this club I’ve never ever been interested in any opposition players when they turn out against my team they can all feck off

If you cant enjoy watching a player of De Bruyne quality then your not a football fan .

Watching your team compete against players like that is why we pay higher ticket prices

I enjoy watching city no matter what league we are in but it makes it special to see these players imo

Thanks for your insight I wish I’d had this conversation 55 years ago l would have saved myself a lot of time and money

In all the years l supported this club I’ve never ever been interested in any opposition players when they turn out against my team they can all feck off

If you cant enjoy watching a player of De Bruyne quality then your not a football fan .

Watching your team compete against players like that is why we pay higher ticket prices

I enjoy watching city no matter what league we are in but it makes it special to see these players imo

Thanks for your insight I wish I’d had this conversation 55 years ago l would have saved myself a lot of time and money

Maybe you would have enjoyed watching the likes of Best, Dalglish, Ginola and le-tissier play against city Instead of the dross we had to endure through the 80s - present.
I know who I prefer watching.

Surely every football fan wants there team to play against with and beat the best.

Otherwise what’s the point?

Surely every football fan wants there team to play against with and beat the best.

Otherwise what’s the point?

My sentiment exactly!

Surely every football fan wants there team to play against with and beat the best.

Otherwise what’s the point?

I would be quite happy if we had beaten Citehs 4th team tonight..
3 points or watch debruyne..no contest..
and anyone that got all excited when Haszrd was getting ready to come on needs their head sorting..

f**k them I want to see the mighty Cardiff City. Want to see Hazard etc turn your Sky on

Can’t understand fans who want to go backwards.

Are you really a fan if you don’t want your team to reach the highest level possible?

We just played one of the best teams in Europe, if not the best. Watching our team on the same pitch competing against a team like Man City is something we have all wished for, it's why we support our team.

Hopefully, we will have many more seasons competing against fantastic teams like that, but if we sadly do get relegated, we may never see us compete against a team of Man City's quality again for a long, long time.

Sometimes when I see us play against a team who are at a completely different level like Man City tonight, I prefer to admire De Bruyne's ability and performance rather than get frustrated at Ralls being given the runaround by him. Many other teams wish they were playing Man City tonight and many fans would wish to be able to see their team playing against De Bruyne and Man City.

Games like tonight make me proud to be a City fan. The first ever City game I watched was in the old Division 4. I'm now watching us compete against the very best football has to offer. I'm watching us compete against ex Champions League winners, ex World Cup winners, we're competing against the very best. What's not to enjoy about that?

We just played one of the best teams in Europe, if not the best. Watching our team on the same pitch competing against a team like Man City is something we have all wished for, it's why we support our team.

Hopefully, we will have many more seasons competing against fantastic teams like that, but if we sadly do get relegated, we may never see us compete against a team of Man City's quality again for a long, long time.

Sometimes when I see us play against a team who are at a completely different level like Man City tonight, I prefer to admire De Bruyne's ability and performance rather than get frustrated at Ralls being given the runaround by him. Many other teams wish they were playing Man City tonight and many fans would wish to be able to see their team playing against De Bruyne and Man City.

Games like tonight make me proud to be a City fan. The first ever City game I watched was in the old Division 4. I'm now watching us compete against the very best football has to offer. I'm watching us compete against ex Champions League winners, ex World Cup winners, we're competing against the very best. What's not to enjoy about that?

question..would you have preferred to be playing 11 Man City fringe players you had not heard of and win 2 nil
or the game you did watch and lose 2 nil.
personally i hope there is some sort of virus in the Liverpool camp when they play us and its their reserves we play..

It’s nice to be in the premier league but persaonlly I don’t care who we are playing

Watching that tonight was not nice imo light years apart in terms of quality and if I had a choice I’d rather watch us play a championship game where we compete

If I want to watch champagne football as someone else said I’ll turn sky on twice a week

That stadium was soulless as well for fans who think CCS is bad listen to that place on for the quadruple and you couldn’t here a single home fan, great away following for us as always tho only people I could hear was our support

We just played one of the best teams in Europe, if not the best. Watching our team on the same pitch competing against a team like Man City is something we have all wished for, it's why we support our team.

Hopefully, we will have many more seasons competing against fantastic teams like that, but if we sadly do get relegated, we may never see us compete against a team of Man City's quality again for a long, long time.

Sometimes when I see us play against a team who are at a completely different level like Man City tonight, I prefer to admire De Bruyne's ability and performance rather than get frustrated at Ralls being given the runaround by him. Many other teams wish they were playing Man City tonight and many fans would wish to be able to see their team playing against De Bruyne and Man City.

Games like tonight make me proud to be a City fan. The first ever City game I watched was in the old Division 4. I'm now watching us compete against the very best football has to offer. I'm watching us compete against ex Champions League winners, ex World Cup winners, we're competing against the very best. What's not to enjoy about that?

question..would you have preferred to be playing 11 Man City fringe players you had not heard of and win 2 nil
or the game you did watch and lose 2 nil.
personally i hope there is some sort of virus in the Liverpool camp when they play us and its their reserves we play..

Obviously, I would have rathered us play Man City's reserves and win tonight to help our survival chances, but that's simply not going to happen is it with Man City going for the title.

Would you rather see us thumping teams 10-0 in the Welsh league every week, or fighting for survival in the Premiership while seeing us compete against some of the best teams in the world?

We just played one of the best teams in Europe, if not the best. Watching our team on the same pitch competing against a team like Man City is something we have all wished for, it's why we support our team.

Hopefully, we will have many more seasons competing against fantastic teams like that, but if we sadly do get relegated, we may never see us compete against a team of Man City's quality again for a long, long time.

Sometimes when I see us play against a team who are at a completely different level like Man City tonight, I prefer to admire De Bruyne's ability and performance rather than get frustrated at Ralls being given the runaround by him. Many other teams wish they were playing Man City tonight and many fans would wish to be able to see their team playing against De Bruyne and Man City.

Games like tonight make me proud to be a City fan. The first ever City game I watched was in the old Division 4. I'm now watching us compete against the very best football has to offer. I'm watching us compete against ex Champions League winners, ex World Cup winners, we're competing against the very best. What's not to enjoy about that?

question..would you have preferred to be playing 11 Man City fringe players you had not heard of and win 2 nil
or the game you did watch and lose 2 nil.
personally i hope there is some sort of virus in the Liverpool camp when they play us and its their reserves we play..

Your missing the point we’d all be happy to beat Man City’s fringe players then lose 2-0.

But I’d rather the opportunity to go beat any Man City team on a Wednesday night in the premier league then to go and be guaranteed winning 2-0 in the championship against Rotherham.

If you don’t want the team you support to play at the highest level with the whole world watching us then why bother?

Who ever says the feeling they had after beating Leeds in the fa cup or when we beat Man City in our first premier league home game is the same they get after winning against Barnsley were either pissed at the time or there telling fibs to be different.

It’s like saying you have the same excitement after winning a £10 bet and £1000 bet.

We just played one of the best teams in Europe, if not the best. Watching our team on the same pitch competing against a team like Man City is something we have all wished for, it's why we support our team.

Hopefully, we will have many more seasons competing against fantastic teams like that, but if we sadly do get relegated, we may never see us compete against a team of Man City's quality again for a long, long time.

Sometimes when I see us play against a team who are at a completely different level like Man City tonight, I prefer to admire De Bruyne's ability and performance rather than get frustrated at Ralls being given the runaround by him. Many other teams wish they were playing Man City tonight and many fans would wish to be able to see their team playing against De Bruyne and Man City.

Games like tonight make me proud to be a City fan. The first ever City game I watched was in the old Division 4. I'm now watching us compete against the very best football has to offer. I'm watching us compete against ex Champions League winners, ex World Cup winners, we're competing against the very best. What's not to enjoy about that?

question..would you have preferred to be playing 11 Man City fringe players you had not heard of and win 2 nil
or the game you did watch and lose 2 nil.
personally i hope there is some sort of virus in the Liverpool camp when they play us and its their reserves we play..

Your missing the point we’d all be happy to beat Man City’s fringe players then lose 2-0.

But I’d rather the opportunity to go beat any Man City team on a Wednesday night in the premier league then to go and be guaranteed winning 2-0 in the championship against Rotherham.

If you don’t want the team you support to play at the highest level with the whole world watching us then why bother?

Who ever says the feeling they had after beating Leeds in the fa cup or when we beat Man City in our first premier league home game is the same they get after winning against Barnsley were either pissed at the time or there telling fibs to be different.

It’s like saying you have the same excitement after winning a £10 bet and £1000 bet.

im not missing any point...my post is in reply to those fawning over hazard, debruyne etc..who to be frank I don't give two hoots for..

as regards what division I get the point about highest level..but also about being competitive.

bottom line is I was a Cardiff fan when we played Wolves, Fulham, Brighton in the 4th tier am a Cardiff fan now and will be a Cardiff fan if we play them in the dungeon again..it really isn't the end of the world if I don't get to see Mo Salah

I can fully understand both arguments in this thread but for me, the number one reason why I prefer us to play in the Prem is that it raises the profile of the club immeasurably. Yes, if you have the mare of a season that Fulham are having, you may just want to curl up and die but to remain competitive for as long as we have is commendable. And if we can by some miracle escape relegation, we will benefit from the experience and gain confidence for next year's campaign.

I mentioned the club's profile earlier. Who honestly can say they don't feel a sense of pride when they talk of their club being in the best or one of the best leagues in the world ? Personally I love it when people I have met around the world know of Cardiff City Football Club, primarily because we were in the Prem a few years ago and are there again now. And they're not necessarily big football fans, it's just that the global attraction of this league is phenomenal.

A club with our following and a city with our population should strive for progress continually and that means playing Premier League football on a regular basis. I can never see us breaking into the top 6 but see no reason why in future years we cannot emulate Wolves or even Watford.

I can fully understand both arguments in this thread but for me, the number one reason why I prefer us to play in the Prem is that it raises the profile of the club immeasurably. Yes, if you have the mare of a season that Fulham are having, you may just want to curl up and die but to remain competitive for as long as we have is commendable. And if we can by some miracle escape relegation, we will benefit from the experience and gain confidence for next year's campaign.

I mentioned the club's profile earlier. Who honestly can say they don't feel a sense of pride when they talk of their club being in the best or one of the best leagues in the world ? Personally I love it when people I have met around the world know of Cardiff City Football Club, primarily because we were in the Prem a few years ago and are there again now. And they're not necessarily big football fans, it's just that the global attraction of this league is phenomenal.

A club with our following and a city with our population should strive for progress continually and that means playing Premier League football on a regular basis. I can never see us breaking into the top 6 but see no reason why in future years we cannot emulate Wolves or even Watford.

the profile of our club has been raised.no doubt about that.and it is a worthy point..

as is your very last line..no reason we can not emulate Watford..3 bottom half finishes and not out of the question a bottom half finish this season...there lays the negative ...is that really the ceiling for us ?

In all the years l supported this club I’ve never ever been interested in any opposition players when they turn out against my team they can all feck off

If you cant enjoy watching a player of De Bruyne quality then your not a football fan .

Watching your team compete against players like that is why we pay higher ticket prices

I enjoy watching city no matter what league we are in but it makes it special to see these players imo

I'm not a football fan then bit I'm a Cardiff City fan...I get zero enjoyment watching an individual player May be taking the piss with my team. I go to games to watch and support my club I don't even think about seeing hazard etc play.

What I don't understand is same fans supporting city in a championship campaign obviously wanting to win every game and knowing that if we achieve that the prize is promotion to the premier league
Sorry doesn't make sense to me
I want premier league survival establish ourselves and grow year on year
I think staying up first year is key to this so for rest of season
COME ON CITY

If you think Hazard and De bruyne are that good then may I respectfully suggest you haven't seen proper footballers

Obviously want my team at the highest level as it's what the players are in it for but the Premier League is just a money laundering, filthy rich, agent run racket whose refs think they are the most important thing on the pitch.


Hate it.

I dont care who we are playing - all I want to do is for the city to beat the opposition. Failing that , as long as I see they are putting in a shift - then I will always go and support the club.

Superb post llan blue. Id disagree with you over the man city game though it was Cardiff red and what should have been a momentous occasion was totally ruined by tan shutting the bluebirds down for 2 and a half years.

Not bothered about seeing opposing players I just want my club to continuously improve and play at the highest level possible.