Bruno Manga

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

.Whether he appealed for offside or not would have made no difference whatsoever.

The referee will always rely on his linesman for those sort of decisions and due to the incompetence of the linesman he was never going to give offside.

The ref was in no position to overrule the linesman and refs are so arrogant that there is no way that he would change his mind.

Bruno could have had a full on tantrum on the pitch and waved his hands in the air appealing as loudly as he could and it would have made absolutely no difference to the decision to give the goal.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

Isn't he out of position? the defensive line was a lot higher than he was. It was a yard offside but he could of made it 3

.Whether he appealed for offside or not would have made no difference whatsoever.

The referee will always rely on his linesman for those sort of decisions and due to the incompetence of the linesman he was never going to give offside.

The ref was in no position to overrule the linesman and refs are so arrogant that there is no way that he would change his mind.

Bruno could have had a full on tantrum on the pitch and waved his hands in the air appealing as loudly as he could and it would have made absolutely no difference to the decision to give the goal.

My initial point was perhaps he plays at the right level. Top defenders DO wave hands and appeal

Outrage came later after the Video replay. Manga accepted it was a goal and that's a fact

.Whether he appealed for offside or not would have made no difference whatsoever.

The referee will always rely on his linesman for those sort of decisions and due to the incompetence of the linesman he was never going to give offside.

The ref was in no position to overrule the linesman and refs are so arrogant that there is no way that he would change his mind.

Bruno could have had a full on tantrum on the pitch and waved his hands in the air appealing as loudly as he could and it would have made absolutely no difference to the decision to give the goal.

My initial point was perhaps he plays at the right level. Top defenders DO wave hands and appeal

And the "top" officials are so arrogant that waving hands and appealing even by top defenders have no effect on them.

How often have you ever seen a ref overturn a decision because of players appealing?

Sometimes he'll have a word with the linesman but that wouldn't have helped on Sunday!

.Whether he appealed for offside or not would have made no difference whatsoever.

The referee will always rely on his linesman for those sort of decisions and due to the incompetence of the linesman he was never going to give offside.

The ref was in no position to overrule the linesman and refs are so arrogant that there is no way that he would change his mind.

Bruno could have had a full on tantrum on the pitch and waved his hands in the air appealing as loudly as he could and it would have made absolutely no difference to the decision to give the goal.

My initial point was perhaps he plays at the right level. Top defenders DO wave hands and appeal

And the "top" officials are so arrogant that waving hands and appealing even by top defenders have no effect on them.

How often have you ever seen a ref overturn a decision because of players appealing?

Sometimes he'll have a word with the linesman but that wouldn't have helped on Sunday!

It was a great performance on Sunday, spoilt by the refs and I have to say it, a loser mentality from Manga. If i'm being too harsh i'm not bothered, not appealing is unacceptable at the top level.

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.Whether he appealed for offside or not would have made no difference whatsoever.

The referee will always rely on his linesman for those sort of decisions and due to the incompetence of the linesman he was never going to give offside.

The ref was in no position to overrule the linesman and refs are so arrogant that there is no way that he would change his mind.

Bruno could have had a full on tantrum on the pitch and waved his hands in the air appealing as loudly as he could and it would have made absolutely no difference to the decision to give the goal.

My initial point was perhaps he plays at the right level. Top defenders DO wave hands and appeal

And the "top" officials are so arrogant that waving hands and appealing even by top defenders have no effect on them.


The penalty against Huddersfield

How often have you ever seen a ref overturn a decision because of players appealing?

Sometimes he'll have a word with the linesman but that wouldn't have helped on Sunday!

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

Warnock doesn't fancy him as 1st choice CB despite his clear unrivalled ability on the ball. Warnock's right as usual

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

he is playing at the correct level its called the premier league ..
and no its not concerning tbh. players shout and scream all the time only to find the ref gave the correct decision having watched a replay that shows a team mate playing forwards on side..
when your actually playing the ball and immediate threats are your concern , not having the best overview of who might be playing someone offside.
think the thread is a bit of a wind up ..
real break transfer record on bobby mcbiggamouth

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

he is playing at the correct level its called the premier league ..
and no its not concerning tbh. players shout and scream all the time only to find the ref gave the correct decision having watched a replay that shows a team mate playing forwards on side..
when your actually playing the ball and immediate threats are your concern , not having the best overview of who might be playing someone offside.
think the thread is a bit of a wind up ..
real break transfer record on bobby mcbiggamouth

That's fair enough, I can only say that he has gone down in my estimations of him as a player. I no longer consider him Premier League standard, and some will call it trivial as to the reasons why.

The players have to be they're own harshest critics if they are to survive the Premier League.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

So you just decided to pick on one of our best players who had a very good game and post an opinion that he is not good enough for a top team, as if the rest of the team is. You are entitled to an opinion, nomatter how misguided it is, but it's just a random negative thing to do based on such a ridiculous pretext.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

So you just decided to pick on one of our best players who had a very good game and post an opinion that he is not good enough for a top team, as if the rest of the team is. You are entitled to an opinion, nomatter how misguided it is, but it's just a random negative thing to do based on such a ridiculous pretext.

I've watched Manga for a long time and always thought we were a stepping stone club for him to move a bigger one. A mutually beneficial agreement would be made. I changed my mind and think he's staying with us for the foreseeable

This is a worse post than anything Daya or Roathie related combined

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

What? you mean prem level of course

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

So you just decided to pick on one of our best players who had a very good game and post an opinion that he is not good enough for a top team, as if the rest of the team is. You are entitled to an opinion, nomatter how misguided it is, but it's just a random negative thing to do based on such a ridiculous pretext.

I've watched Manga for a long time and always thought we were a stepping stone club for him to move a bigger one. A mutually beneficial agreement would be made. I changed my mind and think he's staying with us for the foreseeable

you go to games ?

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

So you just decided to pick on one of our best players who had a very good game and post an opinion that he is not good enough for a top team, as if the rest of the team is. You are entitled to an opinion, nomatter how misguided it is, but it's just a random negative thing to do based on such a ridiculous pretext.

I've watched Manga for a long time and always thought we were a stepping stone club for him to move a bigger one. A mutually beneficial agreement would be made. I changed my mind and think he's staying with us for the foreseeable

you go to games ?

I was never blessed by the footballing gods, but if I’d known complaining to referees makes you a top flight player, I could have been earning thousands.

Wow just wow waving hands and complaining to the ref makes you a top 6 player.....I'll have to tell my under 16s this weekend.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

I'm not sure he's good enough to be playing at a much higher level than he currently is with us, although he's having without doubt his best season. Never quite got my head round the fact that any 2 out of Bruno, Morrison and Bamba seem to perform much better than the 3 together. That not just this season but in our promotion year as well. Possibly as a consequence of having full backs better suited to playing full back.

The appeal thing is at least partly a club culture thing. He knew he was way offside as did Etheridge. They should have been going beserk. If they had, the rest of the team who probably didn't have quite as good a view would have at least joined the protest. The linesman and that referee should have been walking back to the half way line in no doubt that they'd probably made a complete f_ck up. Of course they wouldn't have reversed the decision but they'd have increased the likelihood that the next contentious decision would have gone our way, increasing possibility that Rudiger would have walked for hauling down Zahore. It must have at least gone through his mind that it was a sending off offense.

I hate it when teams engineer these positions by claiming for everything and they should be called out at least by the pundits, if not the authorities. However Manga should have been straight over to that linesman and all but laid him out for that balls up.

We wonder why the big teams seem to get an unfair share of contentiuos decisions go their way. In my view this is at least part of the reason.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

I'm not sure he's good enough to be playing at a much higher level than he currently is with us, although he's having without doubt his best season. Never quite got my head round the fact that any 2 out of Bruno, Morrison and Bamba seem to perform much better than the 3 together. That not just this season but in our promotion year as well. Possibly as a consequence of having full backs better suited to playing full back.

The appeal thing is at least partly a club culture thing. He knew he was way offside as did Etheridge. They should have been going beserk. If they had, the rest of the team who probably didn't have quite as good a view would have at least joined the protest. The linesman and that referee should have been walking back to the half way line in no doubt that they'd probably made a complete f_ck up. Of course they wouldn't have reversed the decision but they'd have increased the likelihood that the next contentious decision would have gone our way, increasing possibility that Rudiger would have walked for hauling down Zahore. It must have at least gone through his mind that it was a sending off offense.

I hate it when teams engineer these positions by claiming for everything and they should be called out at least by the pundits, if not the authorities. However Manga should have been straight over to that linesman and all but laid him out for that balls up.

We wonder why the big teams seem to get an unfair share of contentiuos decisions go their way. In my view this is at least part of the reason.

that's a top post and exactly what I meant, albeit you have summarised far more eloquently than I

Yes it was a terrible decision, I totally agree not enough was done by the players mentioned (Etheridge and Manga) Those two should of needed tranquilizers before kick-off, not the meek acceptance 'here we go again' mentality displayed.

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

I'm not sure he's good enough to be playing at a much higher level than he currently is with us, although he's having without doubt his best season. Never quite got my head round the fact that any 2 out of Bruno, Morrison and Bamba seem to perform much better than the 3 together. That not just this season but in our promotion year as well. Possibly as a consequence of having full backs better suited to playing full back.

The appeal thing is at least partly a club culture thing. He knew he was way offside as did Etheridge. They should have been going beserk. If they had, the rest of the team who probably didn't have quite as good a view would have at least joined the protest. The linesman and that referee should have been walking back to the half way line in no doubt that they'd probably made a complete f_ck up. Of course they wouldn't have reversed the decision but they'd have increased the likelihood that the next contentious decision would have gone our way, increasing possibility that Rudiger would have walked for hauling down Zahore. It must have at least gone through his mind that it was a sending off offense.

I hate it when teams engineer these positions by claiming for everything and they should be called out at least by the pundits, if not the authorities. However Manga should have been straight over to that linesman and all but laid him out for that balls up.

We wonder why the big teams seem to get an unfair share of contentiuos decisions go their way. In my view this is at least part of the reason.

as a player you can only KNOW if your head has 3 pairs of eyes.the proof of that is on MOTD every week ,where a defender thinks one thing only for the replay to prove the opposite
as for the ref and the Zohore incident, you don't think he knew they had got the offside wrong ? but Manga shouting would have rectified that ...

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

I'm not sure he's good enough to be playing at a much higher level than he currently is with us, although he's having without doubt his best season. Never quite got my head round the fact that any 2 out of Bruno, Morrison and Bamba seem to perform much better than the 3 together. That not just this season but in our promotion year as well. Possibly as a consequence of having full backs better suited to playing full back.

The appeal thing is at least partly a club culture thing. He knew he was way offside as did Etheridge. They should have been going beserk. If they had, the rest of the team who probably didn't have quite as good a view would have at least joined the protest. The linesman and that referee should have been walking back to the half way line in no doubt that they'd probably made a complete f_ck up. Of course they wouldn't have reversed the decision but they'd have increased the likelihood that the next contentious decision would have gone our way, increasing possibility that Rudiger would have walked for hauling down Zahore. It must have at least gone through his mind that it was a sending off offense.

I hate it when teams engineer these positions by claiming for everything and they should be called out at least by the pundits, if not the authorities. However Manga should have been straight over to that linesman and all but laid him out for that balls up.

We wonder why the big teams seem to get an unfair share of contentiuos decisions go their way. In my view this is at least part of the reason.

as a player you can only KNOW if your head has 3 pairs of eyes.the proof of that is on MOTD every week ,where a defender thinks one thing only for the replay to prove the opposite
as for the ref and the Zohore incident, you don't think he knew they had got the offside wrong ? but Manga shouting would have rectified that ...

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

So you just decided to pick on one of our best players who had a very good game and post an opinion that he is not good enough for a top team, as if the rest of the team is. You are entitled to an opinion, nomatter how misguided it is, but it's just a random negative thing to do based on such a ridiculous pretext.

I've watched Manga for a long time and always thought we were a stepping stone club for him to move a bigger one. A mutually beneficial agreement would be made. I changed my mind and think he's staying with us for the foreseeable

you go to games ?

I've read some weird conversations on this board but this takes the biscuit

So Manga isn't good enough at claiming for offside so despite the fact he kept Higuine, Giroud, Arnautovich and Hernandez quite in the last two games so he can't play at a higher level I am absolutely weak with laughter

On that basis Chris Smalling would be the best defender in Europe, he is well known for putting his hand up first and defending later !!

The other defender you hardly ever see claiming is Virgil Van Dyke, on that basis our centre back pairing will be Manga and him next season ................ can't wait

Manga is showing what most of us knew from the start of this season, he is the best centre back we have and we look much more secure with him there.

Obviously a wind up.
Nobody could be that thick!

Did not appeal the offside goal, I'm not saying it makes him a bad player, but perhaps why he plays at the right level

He's clearly not the annoying type we see at bigger clubs that appeals close calls.

seriously ?

Absolutely, how can you support him not appealing as the last man? I did not see anything to suggest the goal should be ruled out from him. He accepted the decision. Makes it an easy decision

you imply he is not at a bigger club as he does not appeal enough was why I said ...seriously..

Top clubs will stay clear with concerns around his positioning and awareness...It's concerning that he actually thinks it's a legitimate goal is it not?

So you just decided to pick on one of our best players who had a very good game and post an opinion that he is not good enough for a top team, as if the rest of the team is. You are entitled to an opinion, nomatter how misguided it is, but it's just a random negative thing to do based on such a ridiculous pretext.

I've watched Manga for a long time and always thought we were a stepping stone club for him to move a bigger one. A mutually beneficial agreement would be made. I changed my mind and think he's staying with us for the foreseeable

you go to games ?

I've read some weird conversations on this board but this takes the biscuit

So Manga isn't good enough at claiming for offside so despite the fact he kept Higuine, Giroud, Arnautovich and Hernandez quite in the last two games so he can't play at a higher level I am absolutely weak with laughter

On that basis Chris Smalling would be the best defender in Europe, he is well known for putting his hand up first and defending later !!

The other defender you hardly ever see claiming is Virgil Van Dyke, on that basis our centre back pairing will be Manga and him next season ................ can't wait

Manga is showing what most of us knew from the start of this season, he is the best centre back we have and we look much more secure with him there.

Nobodies questioning Manga's worth and he doesn't really think that ability is dependant on the extent to which a player appeals. But it costs nothing to appeal, no ability required, no sweat lost and in a cast iron case like this, no credability lost to boot.

What do you think Alex Fergusson would have said to his all conquering defense if they'd let such a blatent offside goal go against them without contesting it. Do you think Manga was right not to appeal ? If so, are we taking the appealing out of the game altogether. There's surely been no more worthy case of appealing this season.

Its not just about Manga, Etheridge had a pretty good view and a number of others must have had a pretty reasonable but perpendicular view of the incident. Manga however was the offside line and he must have been fully aware.