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NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:15 am

Cardiff boss Neil Warnock threatens to 'play the reserves' against Man City after Liverpool go top
By Joe Rimmer and Connor Dunn


Monday 1st April 2019

The Reds are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday


Neil Warnock has warned he might "play the reserves" when Cardiff travel to Manchester City on Wednesday.

Liverpool are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday, but Pep Guardiola's men could re-take the lead with a win over the Bluebirds.


Cardiff are fighting for their lives after a controversial defeat to Chelsea and an angry Warnock admitted during two separate interviews that the priority could be to ensure the defending champions don't wrack up the goals at the Etihad on Wednesday night.

He firstly said: "I think we can keep the score down at Man City, I think we can keep it to single figures.

"But I might play the reserves down there, it’ll be interesting to see what the journalists think of that."


And Warnock added: "We keep getting knock-backs, I will probably play the U23s on Wednesday against Manchester City and try to keep it down to 10 or 11. It doesn't matter who you play at the minute, it is who has a flag in his hand and who has a whistle."


Jurgen Klopp's men will travel to Southampton to face a revived side under Ralph Hasenhuttl on Friday as the battle for the Premier League crown enters its final stages while City play their next game in the domestic competition on April 14 against Crystal Palace at the same time as the Reds welcome Chelsea to Anfield.
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:28 am

Can't see this happening myself (it certainly wouldn't be fair on those supporters travelling up there) but I can understand both the anger of Neil Warnock when he says the 'big teams' seem to get the 'rub of the green' on certain decisions, and also the 'value' in resting players ahead of what is currently our game-of the-season versus Burnley

This is a critical phase of the season and (sadly) it is Cardiff that need to 'catch up' with at least one team above them, so it would be understandable to some extent if a few (but not all) players were to be given a rest midweek

What the Chelsea game has shown us, is that this Cardiff City team can (on their day) now compete with anyone outside the top few clubs and they should have the confidence to relish the game against Burnley

It is a game we can win!

But for me, the integrity of the competition is paramount and we should not get drawn into such shenanigans

We certainly wouldn't like it if Liverpool did the same against Southampton on Friday and we certainly didn't like it when the Wolves became sheep in their game against Burnley last weekend
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:45 am

In 2007, Neil Warnock raged about Liverpool's decision to do exactly that 12 years ago at Fulham - and continued to bleat about it for years and years when his Sheffield United side were relegated after losing on the last day of the season at home to Wigan, while West Ham won 1-0 at Old Trafford.

Fulham escaped by a point - largely thanks to a 1-0 victory over a weakened Liverpool side a fortnight earlier.

Rafa Benitez switched his entire back-four, rested stars like Steven Gerrard, Javier Mascherano and former Cardifff City target Dirk Kuyt, and brought in fringe players like Gabriel Paletta, Emiliano Insua and Mark Gonzalez.


Warnock raged: "I didn’t even know two of those that played for Liverpool at Fulham last week.

"I’d never heard of them but when you are a foreign manager like Rafa Benitez, you probably don’t give two hoots about what Sheffield United think."



A year later, Warnock again bemoaned Benitez's tactics, admitting he was "still very bitter" about the whole episode.

"I'm still very bitter about it," he said. "It's part of a big club's mentality. They look after themselves and they don't bother about anyone else."
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:54 am

He has to 'drop' Arter who is now on 9 cards.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:59 am

Danny Says wrote:He has to 'drop' Arter who is now on 9 cards.


If that's the case then totally agree.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:08 pm

Danny Says wrote:He has to 'drop' Arter who is now on 9 cards.


That's now irrelevant and Arter is in no danger of a ban other than for a red card... :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Yellow cards

In the past, any yellow card picked up in the Premier League, EFL, FA Cup or Carabao Cup would be totted up together. When a player received five yellow cards they would miss the next match, in whichever competition that may be. Reaching 10 yellow cards would see the player miss the next two games. And 15 would bring a three-game ban.

However, from this season yellow cards will only count in the competition they are received. And this has led to the following changes.

Premier League:
- One-match ban if five yellow cards received before 19 Premier League fixtures (Dec. 26 round)
- Further two-match ban if 10 yellow cards received before 32 fixtures (weekend of March 30)
- Further three-match ban if 15 yellows received (no fixture limit)
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Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:19 pm

Definitely play the reserves, I don't care what the Journalists and Premier League think, we are up against it and have two massive games in a row.

We can't afford any injuries for one, and we want the players as fresh as they can be not run off their legs chasing shadows against Man City.

It is the right thing to do the next two games will determine if we stay up or go down and are so much more important than keeping the score down against Man City !!!!

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:32 pm

Sven wrote:Can't see this happening myself (it certainly wouldn't be fair on those supporters travelling up there) but I can understand both the anger of Neil Warnock when he says the 'big teams' seem to get the 'rub of the green' on certain decisions, and also the 'value' in resting players ahead of what is currently our game-of the-season versus Burnley

This is a critical phase of the season and (sadly) it is Cardiff that need to 'catch up' with at least one team above them, so it would be understandable to some extent if a few (but not all) players were to be given a rest midweek

What the Chelsea game has shown us, is that this Cardiff City team can (on their day) now compete with anyone outside the top few clubs and they should have the confidence to relish the game against Burnley

It is a game we can win!

But for me, the integrity of the competition is paramount and we should not get drawn into such shenanigans

We certainly wouldn't like it if Liverpool did the same against Southampton on Friday and we certainly didn't like it when the Wolves became sheep in their game against Burnley last weekend



To be fair I thought Wolves give it right good go in the second half. Unlucky to go 2 down.


Warnock wont play the reserves and nor should he. Burnley have got 4 difficult fixtures to finish off. Its look unlikley that goal differnce will come into it but you never know.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:43 pm

epping blue wrote:
Sven wrote:Can't see this happening myself (it certainly wouldn't be fair on those supporters travelling up there) but I can understand both the anger of Neil Warnock when he says the 'big teams' seem to get the 'rub of the green' on certain decisions, and also the 'value' in resting players ahead of what is currently our game-of the-season versus Burnley

This is a critical phase of the season and (sadly) it is Cardiff that need to 'catch up' with at least one team above them, so it would be understandable to some extent if a few (but not all) players were to be given a rest midweek

What the Chelsea game has shown us, is that this Cardiff City team can (on their day) now compete with anyone outside the top few clubs and they should have the confidence to relish the game against Burnley

It is a game we can win!

But for me, the integrity of the competition is paramount and we should not get drawn into such shenanigans

We certainly wouldn't like it if Liverpool did the same against Southampton on Friday and we certainly didn't like it when the Wolves became sheep in their game against Burnley last weekend



To be fair I thought Wolves give it right good go in the second half. Unlucky to go 2 down.


Warnock wont play the reserves and nor should he. Burnley have got 4 difficult fixtures to finish off. Its look unlikley that goal differnce will come into it but you never know.


Exactly, a goal difference of 9 seems a lot but then we would have to win 2 and burnley lose 2 for us to over take them so automatically that reduces it by a minimum of 4 so a goal difference of 5, only takes one thrashing. I agree its unlikely but not unheard of.

Id imagine he will rest Arter and probably change the wingers.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:44 pm

Sven wrote:
Danny Says wrote:He has to 'drop' Arter who is now on 9 cards.


That's now irrelevant and Arter is in no danger of a ban other than for a red card... :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Yellow cards

In the past, any yellow card picked up in the Premier League, EFL, FA Cup or Carabao Cup would be totted up together. When a player received five yellow cards they would miss the next match, in whichever competition that may be. Reaching 10 yellow cards would see the player miss the next two games. And 15 would bring a three-game ban.

However, from this season yellow cards will only count in the competition they are received. And this has led to the following changes.

Premier League:
- One-match ban if five yellow cards received before 19 Premier League fixtures (Dec. 26 round)
- Further two-match ban if 10 yellow cards received before 32 fixtures (weekend of March 30)
- Further three-match ban if 15 yellows received (no fixture limit)


Thanks for the clarification. :bluebird:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:49 pm

Danny Says wrote:
Sven wrote:
Danny Says wrote:He has to 'drop' Arter who is now on 9 cards.


That's now irrelevant and Arter is in no danger of a ban other than for a red card... :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Yellow cards

In the past, any yellow card picked up in the Premier League, EFL, FA Cup or Carabao Cup would be totted up together. When a player received five yellow cards they would miss the next match, in whichever competition that may be. Reaching 10 yellow cards would see the player miss the next two games. And 15 would bring a three-game ban.

However, from this season yellow cards will only count in the competition they are received. And this has led to the following changes.

Premier League:
- One-match ban if five yellow cards received before 19 Premier League fixtures (Dec. 26 round)
- Further two-match ban if 10 yellow cards received before 32 fixtures (weekend of March 30)
- Further three-match ban if 15 yellows received (no fixture limit)


Thanks for the clarification. :bluebird:


Good to know, then he starts :occasion5:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:09 pm

Play the u 23s

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:10 pm

It was a throw away remark being made into a story! Considering next game is 10 days away no need to rest players :old:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:11 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Sven wrote:Can't see this happening myself (it certainly wouldn't be fair on those supporters travelling up there) but I can understand both the anger of Neil Warnock when he says the 'big teams' seem to get the 'rub of the green' on certain decisions, and also the 'value' in resting players ahead of what is currently our game-of the-season versus Burnley

This is a critical phase of the season and (sadly) it is Cardiff that need to 'catch up' with at least one team above them, so it would be understandable to some extent if a few (but not all) players were to be given a rest midweek

What the Chelsea game has shown us, is that this Cardiff City team can (on their day) now compete with anyone outside the top few clubs and they should have the confidence to relish the game against Burnley

It is a game we can win!

But for me, the integrity of the competition is paramount and we should not get drawn into such shenanigans

We certainly wouldn't like it if Liverpool did the same against Southampton on Friday and we certainly didn't like it when the Wolves became sheep in their game against Burnley last weekend



To be fair I thought Wolves give it right good go in the second half. Unlucky to go 2 down.


Warnock wont play the reserves and nor should he. Burnley have got 4 difficult fixtures to finish off. Its look unlikley that goal differnce will come into it but you never know.


Exactly, a goal difference of 9 seems a lot but then we would have to win 2 and burnley lose 2 for us to over take them so automatically that reduces it by a minimum of 4 so a goal difference of 5, only takes one thrashing. I agree its unlikely but not unheard of.

Id imagine he will rest Arter and probably change the wingers.



I'd start with exactly the same team. 10 days until the next fixture.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:13 pm

epping blue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Sven wrote:Can't see this happening myself (it certainly wouldn't be fair on those supporters travelling up there) but I can understand both the anger of Neil Warnock when he says the 'big teams' seem to get the 'rub of the green' on certain decisions, and also the 'value' in resting players ahead of what is currently our game-of the-season versus Burnley

This is a critical phase of the season and (sadly) it is Cardiff that need to 'catch up' with at least one team above them, so it would be understandable to some extent if a few (but not all) players were to be given a rest midweek

What the Chelsea game has shown us, is that this Cardiff City team can (on their day) now compete with anyone outside the top few clubs and they should have the confidence to relish the game against Burnley

It is a game we can win!

But for me, the integrity of the competition is paramount and we should not get drawn into such shenanigans

We certainly wouldn't like it if Liverpool did the same against Southampton on Friday and we certainly didn't like it when the Wolves became sheep in their game against Burnley last weekend



To be fair I thought Wolves give it right good go in the second half. Unlucky to go 2 down.


Warnock wont play the reserves and nor should he. Burnley have got 4 difficult fixtures to finish off. Its look unlikley that goal differnce will come into it but you never know.


Exactly, a goal difference of 9 seems a lot but then we would have to win 2 and burnley lose 2 for us to over take them so automatically that reduces it by a minimum of 4 so a goal difference of 5, only takes one thrashing. I agree its unlikely but not unheard of.

Id imagine he will rest Arter and probably change the wingers.



I'd start with exactly the same team. 10 days until the next fixture.


Well, at least they'd give it a go! :thumbright:

And I was jesting about the Wolves; any excuse to have a pop at them and The Villans ;) :laughing6: :ayatollah:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:16 pm

It’s crazy how journalists will twist a tounge in cheek comment.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:40 pm

Sven wrote:Cardiff boss Neil Warnock threatens to 'play the reserves' against Man City after Liverpool go top
By Joe Rimmer and Connor Dunn


Monday 1st April 2019

The Reds are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday


Neil Warnock has warned he might "play the reserves" when Cardiff travel to Manchester City on Wednesday.

Liverpool are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday, but Pep Guardiola's men could re-take the lead with a win over the Bluebirds.


Cardiff are fighting for their lives after a controversial defeat to Chelsea and an angry Warnock admitted during two separate interviews that the priority could be to ensure the defending champions don't wrack up the goals at the Etihad on Wednesday night.

He firstly said: "I think we can keep the score down at Man City, I think we can keep it to single figures.

"But I might play the reserves down there, it’ll be interesting to see what the journalists think of that."


And Warnock added: "We keep getting knock-backs, I will probably play the U23s on Wednesday against Manchester City and try to keep it down to 10 or 11. It doesn't matter who you play at the minute, it is who has a flag in his hand and who has a whistle."


Jurgen Klopp's men will travel to Southampton to face a revived side under Ralph Hasenhuttl on Friday as the battle for the Premier League crown enters its final stages while City play their next game in the domestic competition on April 14 against Crystal Palace at the same time as the Reds welcome Chelsea to Anfield.

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Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:47 pm

I would rest

Arter
Camarasa
Gunnarsson
Hoilett
Morrison
Manga

Burnley is way way more important than this Man city game which in all honesty we have very little chance of winning

We cant risk a injury or suspension to any of them


My team would be

Etheridge

Richards
Peltier
Cunningham
Bennett

Ralls
Bacuna

Harris
Reid
Mendez-laing

Zahore

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:14 pm

thomasblue wrote:I would rest

Arter
Camarasa
Gunnarsson
Hoilett
Morrison
Manga

Burnley is way way more important than this Man city game which in all honesty we have very little chance of winning

We cant risk a injury or suspension to any of them


My team would be

Etheridge

Richards
Peltier
Cunningham
Bennett

Ralls
Bacuna

Harris
Reid
Mendez-laing

Zahore


That's exactly the front 6 I would play. At the back I'd rest Morrison and Bennett but play Manga. Don't think Jazz is fit so Peltier would have to play.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:30 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:It’s crazy how journalists will twist a tounge in cheek comment.



even crazier that some people then take it as gospel.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:09 am

Totally agree with him as we have must win games coming up.

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:41 am

Not sure why people are thinking this game is a gimme to man city! After a fantastic performance against Chelsea and the fact Palace won there quite easily means it is winnable. Keep the faith!

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:08 am

Sven wrote:Cardiff boss Neil Warnock threatens to 'play the reserves' against Man City after Liverpool go top
By Joe Rimmer and Connor Dunn


Monday 1st April 2019

The Reds are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday


Neil Warnock has warned he might "play the reserves" when Cardiff travel to Manchester City on Wednesday.

Liverpool are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday, but Pep Guardiola's men could re-take the lead with a win over the Bluebirds.


Cardiff are fighting for their lives after a controversial defeat to Chelsea and an angry Warnock admitted during two separate interviews that the priority could be to ensure the defending champions don't wrack up the goals at the Etihad on Wednesday night.

He firstly said: "I think we can keep the score down at Man City, I think we can keep it to single figures.

"But I might play the reserves down there, it’ll be interesting to see what the journalists think of that."


And Warnock added: "We keep getting knock-backs, I will probably play the U23s on Wednesday against Manchester City and try to keep it down to 10 or 11. It doesn't matter who you play at the minute, it is who has a flag in his hand and who has a whistle."


Jurgen Klopp's men will travel to Southampton to face a revived side under Ralph Hasenhuttl on Friday as the battle for the Premier League crown enters its final stages while City play their next game in the domestic competition on April 14 against Crystal Palace at the same time as the Reds welcome Chelsea to Anfield.

No disrespect meant to the under 23’s but I feel NW is taking this far too personally and I hope he is not serious about playing the under 23,s V Man City. I feel a little unsettled with his statement. Wednesday is another opportunity to get some points so we must play our best team. We beat Man C in our first season of premier league!
Come on Blue Birds :bluebird:

Re: NEIL WARNOCK THREATENS TO PLAY U-23'S V MAN CITY

Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:19 am

Colin W wrote:
Sven wrote:Cardiff boss Neil Warnock threatens to 'play the reserves' against Man City after Liverpool go top
By Joe Rimmer and Connor Dunn


Monday 1st April 2019

The Reds are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday


Neil Warnock has warned he might "play the reserves" when Cardiff travel to Manchester City on Wednesday.

Liverpool are back on top of the Premier League after a dramatic last-minute victory over Tottenham at Anfield on Sunday, but Pep Guardiola's men could re-take the lead with a win over the Bluebirds.


Cardiff are fighting for their lives after a controversial defeat to Chelsea and an angry Warnock admitted during two separate interviews that the priority could be to ensure the defending champions don't wrack up the goals at the Etihad on Wednesday night.

He firstly said: "I think we can keep the score down at Man City, I think we can keep it to single figures.

"But I might play the reserves down there, it’ll be interesting to see what the journalists think of that."


And Warnock added: "We keep getting knock-backs, I will probably play the U23s on Wednesday against Manchester City and try to keep it down to 10 or 11. It doesn't matter who you play at the minute, it is who has a flag in his hand and who has a whistle."


Jurgen Klopp's men will travel to Southampton to face a revived side under Ralph Hasenhuttl on Friday as the battle for the Premier League crown enters its final stages while City play their next game in the domestic competition on April 14 against Crystal Palace at the same time as the Reds welcome Chelsea to Anfield.

No disrespect meant to the under 23’s but I feel NW is taking this far too personally and I hope he is not serious about playing the under 23,s V Man City. I feel a little unsettled with his statement. Wednesday is another opportunity to get some points so we must play our best team. We beat Man C in our first season of premier league!
Come on Blue Birds :bluebird:


We've got no chance, you can't compare an inconsistent, Chelsea at home to the Man City machine away !!!

I would rest all if not all the first eleven, imagine Arter, Camarasa and Manga getting injuries, our season would be over !!!