Very odd or sad

I put a thread on here last night saying that how hard brexiteers are now starting to support the Theresa May deal is a disgrace, and we are better off in the EEC. (Joking that I had reluctantly reached that conclusion).
Now that might be a boring thread - in which no one has to comment.

BUT it just disappeared. Is that just a glitch on the forum? OR is this because someone (e.g. administrator). decided that it should be deleted.I
As a City fan of 50 years I find that sad. Where's if I was not a City fan, like Daya, I can slay off the bluegrass as much as I like and not get my thread deleted.......Just wondering WHY?

I put a thread on here last night saying that how hard brexiteers are now starting to support the Theresa May deal is a disgrace, and we are better off in the EEC. (Joking that I had reluctantly reached that conclusion).
Now that might be a boring thread - in which no one has to comment.

BUT it just disappeared. Is that just a glitch on the forum? OR is this because someone (e.g. administrator). decided that it should be deleted.I
As a City fan of 50 years I find that sad. Where's if I was not a City fan, like Daya, I can slay off the bluegrass as much as I like and not get my thread deleted.......Just wondering WHY?

To be fair they normally let political views be expressed which ever side they represent so I wouldn't take issue with it. Probably a genuine error.

Why is it a disgrace ? They've compromised from the position and exit they ideally wanted. The problem is the lack of clarity on what people stand for or want although we really know that the majority of MP's still want to ride rough shod of the vote.

On the subject of clarity I thought the problem has been highlighted in the row with the labour candidate for Newport West. I say highlighted, but in actual fact its getting hardly any press coverage. It appears the arch remainer, supporter of
another referendum and prolific social media campaigner has removed all her public social media references to these beliefs

Now I couldn't care less what her beliefs are with regards to Brexit but she should at least have the integrity to stand on those beliefs and promote them with the same vigour. Labour stood in 2017 on a manifesto of respecting the referendum result but their doing everything they possibly can to thwart it.

I put a thread on here last night saying that how hard brexiteers are now starting to support the Theresa May deal is a disgrace, and we are better off in the EEC. (Joking that I had reluctantly reached that conclusion).
Now that might be a boring thread - in which no one has to comment.

BUT it just disappeared. Is that just a glitch on the forum? OR is this because someone (e.g. administrator). decided that it should be deleted.I
As a City fan of 50 years I find that sad. Where's if I was not a City fan, like Daya, I can slay off the bluegrass as much as I like and not get my thread deleted.......Just wondering WHY?

well i replied to you last night
suggesting this person who now finally had to give up on brexit was your other ID.
as you had been complaining about this being the tories fault for years and are a remainer

btw take the blinkers off its Labours policy to honour the referendum yet they have done their utmost to block it.with over 100 labour mps voting against their constituents wishes again and again.

Thank you for your reply. I hope you are correct about the deleting of my OT. Unfortunately I haven't had the courtesy of a reply as yet.
For the record, I agree with you regarding the Newport West comments. I was unaware of the issue till you mentioned it.The Labour MP
" should have the integrity of standing in her beliefs".I

Similarly I think that if hardline Brexiteers think that the May deal stinks they should not suddenly get behind it because she is leaving.
For example a few days ago in the press they report Borris ........."Borris Johnson faced a Tory backlash over his claim that May’s Brexit strategy had put the UK in a “suicide vest” and handed the detonator to Brussels..."
Now he is intending to support it. I find it disgraceful that he can one day say a deal is terrible (worse than staying in?), And then vote to support it because it's in his interests even though he has said it's not in the interests of the UK. Then Mogg says the PM showed "inner nobility" by agreeing to stand down. That after being one of the group which IMO has been hounding and bullying her.
Sorry they have been playing party politics not doing their best as a party in power to deliver the Brexit. Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties).

well i replied to you last night
suggesting this person who now finally had to give up on brexit was your other ID.
as you had been complaining about this being the tories fault for years and are a remainer

btw take the blinkers off its Labours policy to honour the referendum yet they have done their utmost to block it.with over 100 labour mps voting against their constituents wishes again and again.[/quote]

Sorry Dogfound this reply crossed with my reply to Epping Blue. Anyway you are quite right in that I have always been pro EEC For many reasons, but one key one for me is peace and security in Europe for my kids and their children. I was Against the referendum from the outset as politicians are paid to make UKpolicy, Brexit cuts across party affiliations.
We quite often agree on football matters but not often on politics....But I respect your right to different views!

Thank you for your reply. I hope you are correct about the deleting of my OT. Unfortunately I haven't had the courtesy of a reply as yet.
For the record, I agree with you regarding the Newport West comments. I was unaware of the issue till you mentioned it.The Labour MP
" should have the integrity of standing in her beliefs".I

Similarly I think that if hardline Brexiteers think that the May deal stinks they should not suddenly get behind it because she is leaving.
For example a few days ago in the press they report Borris ........."Borris Johnson faced a Tory backlash over his claim that May’s Brexit strategy had put the UK in a “suicide vest” and handed the detonator to Brussels..."
Now he is intending to support it. I find it disgraceful that he can one day say a deal is terrible (worse than staying in?), And then vote to support it because it's in his interests even though he has said it's not in the interests of the UK. Then Mogg says the PM showed "inner nobility" by agreeing to stand down. That after being one of the group which IMO has been hounding and bullying her.
Sorry they have been playing party politics not doing their best as a party in power to deliver the Brexit. Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties).

cant get my head around your bias. have never been able too...you are the poster boy for that saying ..you could put a donkey to stand for labour and it would win.
and yes when you want out ..no deal... but realise its not happening and you have more than the single brain cell you then have to drop a notch and take the next best thing......you don't get that ?

but do get a labour manifesto saying they would back the referendum result but have gone much further than Boris, Mogg etc in blocking it

the whole house is a big disappointment over this ..but your posts are just anti tory and hypocritical.

Not deleted by me, I enjoy reading everyone’s different political views

Not deleted by me, I enjoy reading everyone’s different political views

OK thanks for that. I agree.

Nevertheless,who ever "accidently" deleted your post should acknowledge it.

well i replied to you last night
suggesting this person who now finally had to give up on brexit was your other ID.
as you had been complaining about this being the tories fault for years and are a remainer

btw take the blinkers off its Labours policy to honour the referendum yet they have done their utmost to block it.with over 100 labour mps voting against their constituents wishes again and again.

Sorry Dogfound this reply crossed with my reply to Epping Blue. Anyway you are quite right in that I have always been pro EEC For many reasons, but one key one for me is peace and security in Europe for my kids and their children. I was Against the referendum from the outset as politicians are paid to make UKpolicy, Brexit cuts across party affiliations.
We quite often agree on football matters but not often on politics....But I respect your right to different views! [/quote]



Why do you perceive there's a threat to our peace and security as a consequence of being out of Europe ?

well i replied to you last night
suggesting this person who now finally had to give up on brexit was your other ID.
as you had been complaining about this being the tories fault for years and are a remainer

btw take the blinkers off its Labours policy to honour the referendum yet they have done their utmost to block it.with over 100 labour mps voting against their constituents wishes again and again.

Sorry Dogfound this reply crossed with my reply to Epping Blue. Anyway you are quite right in that I have always been pro EEC For many reasons, but one key one for me is peace and security in Europe for my kids and their children. I was Against the referendum from the outset as politicians are paid to make UKpolicy, Brexit cuts across party affiliations.
We quite often agree on football matters but not often on politics....But I respect your right to different views!

Why do you perceive there's a threat to our peace and security as a consequence of being out of Europe ?[/quote]


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but if you can see that Brexit cuts across party affiliations why is every post from you on this topic along the lines of its 100% a tory mess...truth be told , if only half those dissenting labour MPS who are voting against labour policy { well what was in the manifesto anyway }and the wishes of what their constituents actually voted we would be leaving today..

I did not vote. do not see it as red v blue.do however believe very strongly in democracy and am totally peed with parliament ignoring democracy...MPs of all parties are sticking 2 fingers up at the public..

seems to me you love labour, want to remain..so have morphed the 2 together.

I don't know what's going on with the threads on here. They seem to be getting mixed up and attributed to different posters.

I don't know what's going on with the threads on here. They seem to be getting mixed up and attributed to different posters.

its why I put the line of dots in..
my post is attributed to ...lengee.
his post attributed to ….you..
then your post attributed to ….me

maybe Lengee is reading a similar mixed up politics board elsewhere that attributes all the things Labour are doing that he disagrees with to the Tory party ?

Thank you for your reply. I hope you are correct about the deleting of my OT. Unfortunately I haven't had the courtesy of a reply as yet.
For the record, I agree with you regarding the Newport West comments. I was unaware of the issue till you mentioned it.The Labour MP
" should have the integrity of standing in her beliefs".I

Similarly I think that if hardline Brexiteers think that the May deal stinks they should not suddenly get behind it because she is leaving.
For example a few days ago in the press they report Borris ........."Borris Johnson faced a Tory backlash over his claim that May’s Brexit strategy had put the UK in a “suicide vest” and handed the detonator to Brussels..."
Now he is intending to support it. I find it disgraceful that he can one day say a deal is terrible (worse than staying in?), And then vote to support it because it's in his interests even though he has said it's not in the interests of the UK. Then Mogg says the PM showed "inner nobility" by agreeing to stand down. That after being one of the group which IMO has been hounding and bullying her.
Sorry they have been playing party politics not doing their best as a party in power to deliver the Brexit. Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties).

Dogfound replied........

cant get my head around your bias..... - having a different opinion to you does not mean I am biased. I am as entitled to an opinion as you are
have never been able too...you are the poster boy for that saying ..you could put a donkey to stand for labour and it would win....................
- I am too old to be a poster boy for anything the
And I have not voted Labour for many years

and yes when you want out ..no deal... but realise its not happening and you have more than the single brain cell you then have to drop a notch and take the next best thing......you don't get that ?
......-.I have no time for politicians who put party and personal gain ahead of the country. If you read Boris Johnson's quote in my thread you can surely see that supporting her deal was not just having to "drop a notch".
Lack of any integrity
but do get a labour manifesto saying they would back the referendum result but have gone much further than Boris, Mogg etc in blocking it ......-.??I don't vote labour, and they can't agree among themselves

the whole house is a big disappointment over this ..but your posts are just anti tory and hypocritical.

..........- the last line of my post said " Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties). ".
........ - I blame the Tories mainly because they are mainly to blame As the ruling party they have us an unnecessary referendum and have lacked any idea how to implement the Brexit and have made a complete hash of delivering it.
- Finally, (phew), I have many faults but hypocrisy is not one of them.
I just believe we are better off in the EEC at this time.

Those politicians who are switching their votes and supporting what is essentially the same deal are the hypocrites.
Latest one is Dominic Raab
In fairness to the DUP they have, (so far), kept to their principles.

Thank you for your reply. I hope you are correct about the deleting of my OT. Unfortunately I haven't had the courtesy of a reply as yet.
For the record, I agree with you regarding the Newport West comments. I was unaware of the issue till you mentioned it.The Labour MP
" should have the integrity of standing in her beliefs".I

Similarly I think that if hardline Brexiteers think that the May deal stinks they should not suddenly get behind it because she is leaving.
For example a few days ago in the press they report Borris ........."Borris Johnson faced a Tory backlash over his claim that May’s Brexit strategy had put the UK in a “suicide vest” and handed the detonator to Brussels..."
Now he is intending to support it. I find it disgraceful that he can one day say a deal is terrible (worse than staying in?), And then vote to support it because it's in his interests even though he has said it's not in the interests of the UK. Then Mogg says the PM showed "inner nobility" by agreeing to stand down. That after being one of the group which IMO has been hounding and bullying her.
Sorry they have been playing party politics not doing their best as a party in power to deliver the Brexit. Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties).

Dogfound replied........

cant get my head around your bias..... - having a different opinion to you does not mean I am biased. I am as entitled to an opinion as you are
have never been able too...you are the poster boy for that saying ..you could put a donkey to stand for labour and it would win....................
- I am too old to be a poster boy for anything the
And I have not voted Labour for many years

and yes when you want out ..no deal... but realise its not happening and you have more than the single brain cell you then have to drop a notch and take the next best thing......you don't get that ?
......-.I have no time for politicians who put party and personal gain ahead of the country. If you read Boris Johnson's quote in my thread you can surely see that supporting her deal was not just having to "drop a notch".
Lack of any integrity
but do get a labour manifesto saying they would back the referendum result but have gone much further than Boris, Mogg etc in blocking it ......-.??I don't vote labour, and they can't agree among themselves

the whole house is a big disappointment over this ..but your posts are just anti tory and hypocritical.

..........- the last line of my post said " Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties). ".
........ - I blame the Tories mainly because they are mainly to blame As the ruling party they have us an unnecessary referendum and have lacked any idea how to implement the Brexit and have made a complete hash of delivering it.
- Finally, (phew), I have many faults but hypocrisy is not one of them.
I just believe we are better off in the EEC at this time.

Those politicians who are switching their votes and supporting what is essentially the same deal are the hypocrites.
Latest one is Dominic Raab
In fairness to the DUP they have, (so far), kept to their principles.

Was this unnecessary simply because "leave" won. If so, I assume the one I voted in back in the 70's was also unnecessary, or was that one all fine because we voted to stay in. I wonder if "remain" had come out on top a couple of years back, would people still think it was an unnecessary referendum. The same as "remainers" saying we did'nt know what we were voting for. I do not recall anyone saying that when we voted to stay in the EEC, but I guess it did not matter so much then because "remain" won, so presumably we were all experts back then.

[quote="Steve Zodiak"
Was this unnecessary simply because "leave" won. If so, I assume the one I voted in back in the 70's was also unnecessary, or was that one all fine because we voted to stay in. I wonder if "remain" had come out on top a couple of years back, would people still think it was an unnecessary referendum. The same as "remainers" saying we did'nt know what we were voting for. I do not recall anyone saying that when we voted to stay in the EEC, but I guess it did not matter so much then because "remain" won, so presumably we were all experts back then.[/quote]

You have a fair poinT. I should say that, for me, it was unecessary. I believe it was not called because the majority of the public wanted it. But only called by Cameron because he thought he could keep the right wingers in his party in line and reduce the threat of UKIP. He had no plan for Brexit.
The result has been a very expensive bitter and divisive three years. I believe that despite all the flaws and lies involved in the referendum campaign, we live in a democracy . Therefore the Yes voters should get their Brexit. I fear it will be a big mistake and we need to be very careful that it does not result in the break up of the UK as we know it.

Thank you for your reply. I hope you are correct about the deleting of my OT. Unfortunately I haven't had the courtesy of a reply as yet.
For the record, I agree with you regarding the Newport West comments. I was unaware of the issue till you mentioned it.The Labour MP
" should have the integrity of standing in her beliefs".I

Similarly I think that if hardline Brexiteers think that the May deal stinks they should not suddenly get behind it because she is leaving.
For example a few days ago in the press they report Borris ........."Borris Johnson faced a Tory backlash over his claim that May’s Brexit strategy had put the UK in a “suicide vest” and handed the detonator to Brussels..."
Now he is intending to support it. I find it disgraceful that he can one day say a deal is terrible (worse than staying in?), And then vote to support it because it's in his interests even though he has said it's not in the interests of the UK. Then Mogg says the PM showed "inner nobility" by agreeing to stand down. That after being one of the group which IMO has been hounding and bullying her.
Sorry they have been playing party politics not doing their best as a party in power to deliver the Brexit. Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties).

Dogfound replied........

cant get my head around your bias..... - having a different opinion to you does not mean I am biased. I am as entitled to an opinion as you are
have never been able too...you are the poster boy for that saying ..you could put a donkey to stand for labour and it would win....................
- I am too old to be a poster boy for anything the
And I have not voted Labour for many years

and yes when you want out ..no deal... but realise its not happening and you have more than the single brain cell you then have to drop a notch and take the next best thing......you don't get that ?
......-.I have no time for politicians who put party and personal gain ahead of the country. If you read Boris Johnson's quote in my thread you can surely see that supporting her deal was not just having to "drop a notch".
Lack of any integrity
but do get a labour manifesto saying they would back the referendum result but have gone much further than Boris, Mogg etc in blocking it ......-.??I don't vote labour, and they can't agree among themselves

the whole house is a big disappointment over this ..but your posts are just anti tory and hypocritical.

..........- the last line of my post said " Three years of arguing and bickering mainly by the ruling Tories (but in truth by all parties). ".
........ - I blame the Tories mainly because they are mainly to blame As the ruling party they have us an unnecessary referendum and have lacked any idea how to implement the Brexit and have made a complete hash of delivering it.
- Finally, (phew), I have many faults but hypocrisy is not one of them.
I just believe we are better off in the EEC at this time.

Those politicians who are switching their votes and supporting what is essentially the same deal are the hypocrites.
Latest one is Dominic Raab
In fairness to the DUP they have, (so far), kept to their principles.

its hypocritical to be spouting about people who want a stronger leave switching to a more mild leave but still wanting leave .
all while making out the opposition who have in many cases ignored their constituents and their own manifesto are blameless.. now if Labour had set themselves up as a remain / 2nd vote party fair enough.. they have not they ,especially JC have played games and party politics throughout being negative about anything and everything and at no point being constructive or even open about how they see it..

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

This will certainly be rumbling on for a long time. The end result will be that we we will remain in the EU. That has been obvious for a long time, with the majority of Parliament being "remainers", the will of the people was always irrelevant.

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

This will certainly be rumbling on for a long time. The end result will be that we we will remain in the EU. That has been obvious for a long time, with the majority of Parliament being "remainers", the will of the people was always irrelevant.

Steve, I voted for Brexit and I would do so again. I don't need any additional information to tell me that the EU is a cartel intent on closer and closer union eventually resulting in a 'one-nation' declaration (no matter how long it takes)

By leaving, the UK might just slow that down a little, as other 'wavering' countries slowly come to realise that they can survive without it; clearly the likes of Greece, Luxembourg, Republic of Ireland and others excepted

I would also include Scotland in that group, should it ever be daft enough to declare independence; a very loose term if attached to the EU begging bowl by its umbilical cord


Sadly, after today, the only way to get a consensus is to go for another Referendum with limited options attached depending on the (potential) result of Monday's indicative votes and also including both 'Revoke Article 50' and 'Leave with No Deal' options

For me, both Theresa May's deal and the likely 'Soft Brexit' Labour options are simply not good enough and I have to say I feel very let down by the government and other politicians who have failed completely to follow up on their pre-vote 'promises' that "A vote to leave is final, binding ..."

As it stands, like you I believe the end result thanks to the politicians ignoring the wises of the majority, is most likely to be that the UK revokes Article 50 and stays as part of the EU in perpetuity; and one thing s for certain; they won't be daft enough to ask the question again for a long long time!

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

you can not just throw the DUP in to suit mate...the Tories do not have enough votes to carry it through...thats the reality of it.
should MPs carry out the wishes of their constituents ? i think they should and would either way..all those MPs that did not deserve to lose their seats....ALL..
blaming one party while completely ignoring the others pretty shabby role in this is not fair or reasonable... but im afraid you will continue to..

Watching the news today, there were a lot of young people on the Brexit march which arrived in London from Sunderland. Social media would have it that virtually all young people would vote remain in the event of another referendum. Try telling that to the thousands of youngsters outside Parliament this afternoon. Looks like a potential re-run of the last referendum where for many months it was a cut and dry win for the "remain"campaign. Would not be surprised if another vote returned the same result. Even if it did, our MP's would probably refuse to accept it, as they have already proved that they do not believe in democracy.

Watching the news today, there were a lot of young people on the Brexit march which arrived in London from Sunderland. Social media would have it that virtually all young people would vote remain in the event of another referendum. Try telling that to the thousands of youngsters outside Parliament this afternoon. Looks like a potential re-run of the last referendum where for many months it was a cut and dry win for the "remain"campaign. Would not be surprised if another vote returned the same result. Even if it did, our MP's would probably refuse to accept it, as they have already proved that they do not believe in democracy.

I do not buy the remain lie this time anymore than last time.
infact less going on many varied conversations I have had...but maybe its just the area we live in and its the opposite elsewhere ?

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

you can not just throw the DUP in to suit mate...the Tories do not have enough votes to carry it through...thats the reality of it.
should MPs carry out the wishes of their constituents ? i think they should and would either way..all those MPs that did not deserve to lose their seats....ALL..
blaming one party while completely ignoring the others pretty shabby role in this is not fair or reasonable... but im afraid you will continue to..

Your exactly right. We need a general election and labour should have the integrity to stand on the ticket of their wish to cancel Brexit. Labour are determined to cancel Brexit, of that there can be no doubt. Lord knows who leads the Tory party but in general they stand on ticket of leaving. And the tories should kick the remainer's out. No matter who wins we'll all benefit from never seeing Anna Soubry on tele ever again.

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

you can not just throw the DUP in to suit mate...the Tories do not have enough votes to carry it through...thats the reality of it.
should MPs carry out the wishes of their constituents ? i think they should and would either way..all those MPs that did not deserve to lose their seats....ALL..
blaming one party while completely ignoring the others pretty shabby role in this is not fair or reasonable... but im afraid you will continue to..

Your exactly right. We need a general election and labour should have the integrity to stand on the ticket of their wish to cancel Brexit. Labour are determined to cancel Brexit, of that there can be no doubt. Lord knows who leads the Tory party but in general they stand on ticket of leaving. And the tories should kick the remainer's out. No matter who wins we'll all benefit from never seeing Anna Soubry on tele ever again.

There are hypocrites across all the parties. But the Conservatives are in power and were charged with delivering Brexit. If the Tory members and DUP could even agree then it would not matter how others voted. t
Anyway that's all from me... Credit will be rumbling on for some time yet!

you can not just throw the DUP in to suit mate...the Tories do not have enough votes to carry it through...thats the reality of it.
should MPs carry out the wishes of their constituents ? i think they should and would either way..all those MPs that did not deserve to lose their seats....ALL..
blaming one party while completely ignoring the others pretty shabby role in this is not fair or reasonable... but im afraid you will continue to..

Your exactly right. We need a general election and labour should have the integrity to stand on the ticket of their wish to cancel Brexit. Labour are determined to cancel Brexit, of that there can be no doubt. Lord knows who leads the Tory party but in general they stand on ticket of leaving. And the tories should kick the remainer's out. No matter who wins we'll all benefit from never seeing Anna Soubry on tele ever again.

There are some benefits (Soubry) then?

The whole mentality of those MP's who defected to the (now) Change UK Party baffles me, as they must surely be intelligent enough to know they have little or no chance of being re-elected at the next national vote?

I wouldn't mind Heidi Allen being re-elected mind; but not for political reasons...!

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Talking of hypocrocy....what about Theresa May
please see the attached article

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/s ... nst-brexit

Ah well, best that we can ignore that.........

All say after me It's all Jeremy Corbyns fault and other idiots who are not in government. They are the real hypocrites

Anyway more imp than all that come on City we really need to beat Chelsea tomorrow

2 world wars, the battering the UK took from the Germans and these useless twats in the government gave up our democracy overnight.
1. The people voted out
2. The useless money grabbers took our best bargaining chip off the table which was No Deal.. that's like turning up for a poker game and telling everyone your hand before betting.
3. Even of we had no intention of a No Deal.... you don't tell the opposition
4. No one know for sure what will happen after a No Deal
5. The rest of the world will do business with us
6. It maybe a little rocky for a year or so but one of the wealthiest countries in the world will get back on its feet.
7. They are trying to make you so sick of it, that the people who wanted Brexit don't care anymore
8. The media are scaremongering and as said earlier no one knows what will happen after Brexit
9. France will want us to buy their shit cars and ok wine. Germany will want us to buy their great cars and sausages. Spain will want us to holiday as we account for at least 35% of their GDP.
10. Why is a remainer taking the lead

Talking of hypocrocy....what about Theresa May
please see the attached article

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/s ... nst-brexit

Ah well, best that we can ignore that.........

All say after me It's all Jeremy Corbyns fault and other idiots who are not in government. They are the real hypocrites

Anyway more imp than all that come on City we really need to beat Chelsea tomorrow

Have you been living in a time warp. You've not unearthed any shattering revelations. Teresa May believed we should remain, campaigned to remain and voted to remain. She did however believe the result of the referendum should be honoured and although people are doubting the worth of her deal there's no doubting she's tried to get a see change in our relationship with the EU.

Corbyn and the labour party on the other hand have been playing cherades with the electorate. The noth east London liberal elite dont want any sort of Brexit and that's where we're heading. They've said F_CK OFF to the constituencies of Sunderland, They've said F_CK OFF to the constituency of Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford and 160 others to boot.

All I want is honesty. Labour doesnt want to leave the EU. Never has and the last 3 years has been a complete falsehood. They've chosen to side with the Islington wine bar rather than the Barnsley workermans club. They just need to be honest about it.


Need a result tomorrow. Early start for me particularly with the clocks going back.

Talking of hypocrocy....what about Theresa May
please see the attached article

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/s ... nst-brexit

Ah well, best that we can ignore that.........

All say after me It's all Jeremy Corbyns fault and other idiots who are not in government. They are the real hypocrites

Anyway more imp than all that come on City we really need to beat Chelsea tomorrow

Have you been living in a time warp. You've not unearthed any shattering revelations. Teresa May believed we should remain, campaigned to remain and voted to remain. She did however believe the result of the referendum should be honoured and although people are doubting the worth of her deal there's no doubting she's tried to get a see change in our relationship with the EU.

Corbyn and the labour party on the other hand have been playing cherades with the electorate. The noth east London liberal elite dont want any sort of Brexit and that's where we're heading. They've said F_CK OFF to the constituencies of Sunderland, They've said F_CK OFF to the constituency of Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford and 160 others to boot.

All I want is honesty. Labour doesnt want to leave the EU. Never has and the last 3 years has been a complete falsehood. They've chosen to side with the Islington wine bar rather than the Barnsley workermans club. They just need to be honest about it.


Need a result tomorrow. Early start for me particularly with the clocks going back.

I would'nt put your clock back mate, you might end up missing the game.