Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:28 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:34 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:45 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:57 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:Wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Even with seeing the contract, it will still come down to which side can argue their case more convincingly than the other
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:04 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Leytonstoneblue wrote:Wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Even with seeing the contract, it will still come down to which side can argue their case more convincingly than the other
Personally I think Nantes have this one won. Intent will be the operative word here and it's obvious to everyman and his dog we had intent to sign Sala.
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:10 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:19 pm
pembroke allan wrote:If correct we're liable for the 16m which may or may not be recovered by insurance? Feel sorry for amelianos family as looks like they may not get any recompense !
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:19 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:29 pm
wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:33 pm
Bluebina wrote:wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Exactly some bloke in Turkey, what does he know, all hearsay and speculation, what will be will be !!!
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:34 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:35 pm
dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Exactly some bloke in Turkey, what does he know, all hearsay and speculation, what will be will be !!!
a court of arbitration for sport judge = some bloke in Turkey.
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:38 pm
wez1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Exactly some bloke in Turkey, what does he know, all hearsay and speculation, what will be will be !!!
a court of arbitration for sport judge = some bloke in Turkey.
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but has he seen the clauses in the contract ? without that its just speculation
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:46 pm
dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Exactly some bloke in Turkey, what does he know, all hearsay and speculation, what will be will be !!!
a court of arbitration for sport judge = some bloke in Turkey.
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:03 pm
Bluebina wrote:dogfound wrote:Bluebina wrote:wez1927 wrote:without seeing the official contract no one can know for sure if s all hearsay
Exactly some bloke in Turkey, what does he know, all hearsay and speculation, what will be will be !!!
a court of arbitration for sport judge = some bloke in Turkey.
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Exactly some bloke from Turkey, I'd take more notice from some of the self styled experts on here, what the fecks it got to do with him anyway !!!
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:37 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:45 pm
castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:46 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:49 pm
dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:51 pm
dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:52 pm
castleblue wrote:dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b![]()
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Must be right.
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:54 pm
dogfound wrote:dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/ ... %5B%5D=238
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:55 pm
pembroke allan wrote:If correct we're liable for the 16m which may or may not be recovered by insurance? Feel sorry for amelianos family as looks like they may not get any recompense !
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:00 pm
castleblue wrote:dogfound wrote:dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/ ... %5B%5D=238
Arbitrator v Judge is there a difference
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:01 pm
dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:dogfound wrote:dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/ ... %5B%5D=238
Arbitrator v Judge is there a difference
well you can call them some bloke in turkey if you like if that's what wiki told you he is![]()
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:53 pm
1922 wrote:I think we need a large banner![]()
SALA IS A BLUEBIRD - JUST f*cking PAY
While we sing the song for Sala![]()
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:00 pm
Bazforth wrote:1922 wrote:I think we need a large banner![]()
SALA IS A BLUEBIRD - JUST f*cking PAY
While we sing the song for Sala![]()
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Well said Sir!
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:10 pm
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:29 pm
castleblue wrote:dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:dogfound wrote:dogfound wrote:castleblue wrote:Emin OZKURT is a Turkish lawyer who has extensive knowledge and experience in sports law and its regulation.
Emin has a LL.M degree in International Business Law from The University of Manchester. He is currently registered at the national bar of lawyers in Istanbul.
He is privileged to have acted for many of the governing bodies that regulate the sport in Turkiye, some of the biggest Football Clubs in the country, many player and agents from around the world and also athletes.
Emin represents his clients in many cases before the FIFA's Dispute Resolution Chamber (FIFA DRC), UEFA Disciplinary Bodies, Basketball Arbitral Tribunal (BAT), Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS) and also Turkish Sporting Bodies.
Emin also manages the leading law firm on e-sports in Turkiye and his team consults one of the biggest publishers in this new sports ecosystem.
Moreover, Emin OZKURT is a professor in sports law in school degree of the Union of Turkish Bars and gives lectures on sports law at several Universities in Turkiye.
He participates in numerous seminars and conferences about sport law and he has published many articles about sport law.
Clearly this guy is an experienced sports lawyers who has represented his clients in many high level international cases, however he is not listed by the CAS as either a member or arbitrator from their football list so the claim he is a judge![]()
How does it go Hmmmmm.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-ozkurt-6b59591b
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/ ... %5B%5D=238
Arbitrator v Judge is there a difference
well you can call them some bloke in turkey if you like if that's what wiki told you he is![]()
He is clearly more than some bloke from Turkey I haven't said any different what I am saying is he is not a judge and has been used outside of the CAS formal system and not as a JUDGE within the formal court system. You have searched for arbitrators by country but he doesn't appear on the list of arbitrators within the formal CAS system either on the general or football list.
This case if it gets to the CAS will likely be put before the appeals division of the Court which deals with appeals against decisions by sports governing bodies. He is absolutely not listed as an Arbitrator or Judge in that division of the CAS.
Nantes had the option of putting this matter before the CAS in the ordinary division to request arbitration on the validity of the contract but they didn't Why? In this article it says that Emin Ozkurt suggests "The parties of agreement can also apply to CAS following to a court decision about Sala's payment" but the moment Nantes asked FIFA to decide that opportunity was gone. So did an experienced legal sports professional actually say that in the full knowledge that Nantes had passed the matter over to FIFA? I don't think so he has probably been misquoted or maybe he never said it at all who knows. Don't believe everything you read on the internet including that this man is a CAS Judge.
Emin Ozkurt is an experienced legal professional but like ALL lawyers you could easily find another who would argue the exact opposite to what he is saying.
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:45 pm
FAWman wrote:Castleblue doesn’t like being proven wrong.
He made similar responses to me when I corrected his misunderstanding of the transfer process.