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Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defender

Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:55 pm

Cardiff City and Aston Villa plot move for £5million QPR defender — reports

Toni Leistner has been excellent for Queens Park Rangers this season

By Dominic Booth

Tuesday 5th March 2019

Toni Leistner of Queens Park Rangers


Cardiff City are battling Aston Villa ahead of a potential swoop for Queens Park Rangers defender Toni Leistner, according to reports.

Football Insider reports that German centre-back, valued at £5million, is a target for both the Bluebirds and Dean Smith's Championship side who are both 'plotting' summer moves.


Leistner has become a mainstay of the QPR back line this season, scoring twice in 37 Championship appearances after signing on a free from Union Berlin.

The 28-year-old has even been made captain by Rs boss Steve McClaren, such as been the size of his impact at Loftus Road.
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Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:34 pm

Sounds like his agent trying to test the water early for a move. I doubt our club have even thought about summer targets.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:59 pm

Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:07 pm

charlieduke wrote:Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.


I wouldn't be so sure. We have one of the top 3 richest owners in the country. In January, they released another £13 million of shares to fund some buying during that window. If Jack Grealish is sold, we will have £35 million minimum burning a hole in our back pocket.

Whatever division Villa are in next season (and Championship looks likely), there will be a massive overhaul with a minimum of 6 players coming in, regardless of who goes the other way.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:28 pm

AV3 wrote:
charlieduke wrote:Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.


I wouldn't be so sure. We have one of the top 3 richest owners in the country. In January, they released another £13 million of shares to fund some buying during that window. If Jack Grealish is sold, we will have £35 million minimum burning a hole in our back pocket.

Whatever division Villa are in next season (and Championship looks likely), there will be a massive overhaul with a minimum of 6 players coming in, regardless of who goes the other way.


Still think you will get 35 mill for Grealish?

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:22 am

2blue2handle wrote:Sounds like his agent trying to test the water early for a move. I doubt our club have even thought about summer targets.


Agree.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:37 am

AV3 wrote:
charlieduke wrote:Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.


I wouldn't be so sure. We have one of the top 3 richest owners in the country. In January, they released another £13 million of shares to fund some buying during that window. If Jack Grealish is sold, we will have £35 million minimum burning a hole in our back pocket.

Whatever division Villa are in next season (and Championship looks likely), there will be a massive overhaul with a minimum of 6 players coming in, regardless of who goes the other way.


Jack Grealish - what's your valuation 35 million or 35 million minus the 13 million - even at 22 million Grealish is no where near that amount.
Bad attitude, average ability - he should have gone to Fulham when he had the chance - teams that waste money like that are few and far between. I wouldnt Grealish anywhere near a team I support.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:15 am

Grealish is just a thinner Lee Tomlin. £35M, in your dreams

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:25 am

Hopski wrote:Grealish is just a thinner Lee Tomlin. £35M, in your dreams


He's got slightly more talent that Lee Tomlin but 35 million is way off the mark.
10 mill at most.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:31 am

Grelish is worth £25 million in today's :bluebird: inflated market place. He quality and will move to a mid sized PL club probably around the Midlands, such as Wolves or Leicester

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:31 pm

AV3 wrote:
charlieduke wrote:Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.


I wouldn't be so sure. We have one of the top 3 richest owners in the country. In January, they released another £13 million of shares to fund some buying during that window. If Jack Grealish is sold, we will have £35 million minimum burning a hole in our back pocket.

Whatever division Villa are in next season (and Championship looks likely), there will be a massive overhaul with a minimum of 6 players coming in, regardless of who goes the other way.

I thought they came close to breaching the rules last year. They will make another heavy loss this year and even with the sale of Grealish I cant see how they would be in a position to spend heavily without breaching the rules. A share issue wont count because as I understand it this doesn't count as revenue. Otherwise the ffp rules would be pointless. In fact if they have used the 13 million to fund more players in the January window that makes the situation even worse with regard to FFP!

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:15 pm

maccydee wrote:
AV3 wrote:
charlieduke wrote:Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.


I wouldn't be so sure. We have one of the top 3 richest owners in the country. In January, they released another £13 million of shares to fund some buying during that window. If Jack Grealish is sold, we will have £35 million minimum burning a hole in our back pocket.

Whatever division Villa are in next season (and Championship looks likely), there will be a massive overhaul with a minimum of 6 players coming in, regardless of who goes the other way.


Still think you will get 35 mill for Grealish?


Hope not as I don't want to lose him. We will walk the Championship next season with him in the side.

However, £35 million is the buy out figure in his contract.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:18 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
AV3 wrote:
charlieduke wrote:Aston Villa, unless they are promoted, which is highly unlikely, will be unable to afford £5M for a defender. They will be in serious financial trouble with their parachute payments reducing and FFP rules coming into play.


I wouldn't be so sure. We have one of the top 3 richest owners in the country. In January, they released another £13 million of shares to fund some buying during that window. If Jack Grealish is sold, we will have £35 million minimum burning a hole in our back pocket.

Whatever division Villa are in next season (and Championship looks likely), there will be a massive overhaul with a minimum of 6 players coming in, regardless of who goes the other way.

I thought they came close to breaching the rules last year. They will make another heavy loss this year and even with the sale of Grealish I cant see how they would be in a position to spend heavily without breaching the rules. A share issue wont count because as I understand it this doesn't count as revenue. Otherwise the ffp rules would be pointless. In fact if they have used the 13 million to fund more players in the January window that makes the situation even worse with regard to FFP!


They know what they are doing. As new owners, they are given some grace as well.

I'll guarantee money will be spent in the summer.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:14 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Sounds like his agent trying to test the water early for a move. I doubt our club have even thought about summer targets.


Agree.


Likewise Agree with you both .

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:38 am

AV3 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Still think you will get 35 mill for Grealish?


Hope not as I don't want to lose him. We will walk the Championship next season with him in the side.

However, £35 million is the buy out figure in his contract.


:? The championship is one hell of a hard league and very competitive, people never learn and keep saying "we'll walk it" then finish about 8th.

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:49 am

Fowler T wrote:
AV3 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Still think you will get 35 mill for Grealish?


Hope not as I don't want to lose him. We will walk the Championship next season with him in the side.

However, £35 million is the buy out figure in his contract.


:? The championship is one hell of a hard league and very competitive, people never learn and keep saying "we'll walk it" then finish about 8th.


Probably not the brightest thing to have posted in hindsight. Yes, the Championship is a tough league and very competitive.

However, having a player in your team who is head and shoulders above anyone else in the division is a big advantage. Even more so when his appearance appears to galvanise the rest of the team. With Grealish in the side, the other 10 players all look top notch. When Grealish is out, they look like average, run of the mill Championship players.

I believe in Grealish and I believe in Villa getting promoted - If I didn't, it would be a waste of time kicking a ball wouldn't it?

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:29 am

35mil for that coke head? :lol: :lol: :lol: Dream on

Re: Cardiff City & Aston Villa plot move for £5million Defen

Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:23 am

AV3 wrote:
Fowler T wrote:
AV3 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Still think you will get 35 mill for Grealish?


Hope not as I don't want to lose him. We will walk the Championship next season with him in the side.

However, £35 million is the buy out figure in his contract.


:? The championship is one hell of a hard league and very competitive, people never learn and keep saying "we'll walk it" then finish about 8th.


Probably not the brightest thing to have posted in hindsight. Yes, the Championship is a tough league and very competitive.

However, having a player in your team who is head and shoulders above anyone else in the division is a big advantage. Even more so when his appearance appears to galvanise the rest of the team. With Grealish in the side, the other 10 players all look top notch. When Grealish is out, they look like average, run of the mill Championship players.

I believe in Grealish and I believe in Villa getting promoted - If I didn't, it would be a waste of time kicking a ball wouldn't it?


Looking for bites again AV4?
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