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The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get at l

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:56 pm

The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get at least 4pts from their next 2 games :lol: well simple if they don't, then we really will be starting to think about Championship football next season :cry:





Cardiff now have Wolves away and West Ham at home, before rather daunting games against Chelsea and Manchester City. They will need something from those first two to soften the blow of the next two.

If the Bluebirds belong at this level, now is the time to show it.


You can guarantee that the sides around them will start to rally, so if Cardiff don’t match them, they will be left behind. It’s really as simple as that with 10 games to go.

In many respects, Cardiff have exceeded expectations. It’s been an enjoyable season and the club has fostered a togetherness that felt gone for good a few years ago. It has also been a bruising season and the Sala tragedy still weighs heavily.

But the next two games Wolves and West Ham, City have to get at least 4pts :thumbright: :bluebird:



Cardiff City's run-in

March 2: Wolves (A)

March 9: West Ham (H)

March 31: Chelsea (H)

TBC: Brighton (A)

April 6: Man City (A)

April 13: Burnley (A)

April 21: Liverpool (H)

April 27: Fulham (A)

May 4: Crystal Palace (H)

May 12: Man Utd (A)

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:51 pm

We need to win our two winnable home games -West Ham and Palace - and get at least six or seven points away to be in with a chance. As these include Fulham, Burnley and Brighton we can do it, but it will be hard.

If we can stay within a point or two with Brighton to the last two games we can do it as they have Arsenal and Man city as the last two games, we have Palace and United.

If we are to overtake Southampton we need to do it soon. They have Tottenham and United at home and Liverpool and Watford away in the next five games with Brighton away as well. Cant see them getting much from the first 4 games and if they get anything at Brighton that may in the end be good for us.

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:38 pm

34 points was enough last year which means any 3 wins to achieve that tally.
37 points historically is enough 80% of the time ,which means any 4 wins and would be pretty unlucky to get 37 and go down..

these 2 games are not in the most winable 4 ...

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:24 pm

dogfound wrote:34 points was enough last year which means any 3 wins to achieve that tally.
37 points historically is enough 80% of the time ,which means any 4 wins and would be pretty unlucky to get 37 and go down..

these 2 games are not in the most winable 4 ...



Agreed they are winnable but I go into them with hope that we can try and get something rather than feeling we must.

Fulham, Brighton, Palace, Burnley, West Ham, Wolves, Chelsea - with virtually no hope at all for Manu, Man City and Liverpool.

Four wins are possible, but probably unlikely at this stage, Brighton, Fulham and Palace are the must wins, and hope for a win against West Ham Wolves or Burnley !!!

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:49 pm

We certainly need to start picking up points soon. We are running out of games, and unless we get a few points on the board a bit quick, the pressure is only going to grow. A tough couple of months ahead, could go almost to the very end before our fate is sealed one way or the other.

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:56 pm

Bluebina wrote:
dogfound wrote:34 points was enough last year which means any 3 wins to achieve that tally.
37 points historically is enough 80% of the time ,which means any 4 wins and would be pretty unlucky to get 37 and go down..

these 2 games are not in the most winable 4 ...



Agreed they are winnable but I go into them with hope that we can try and get something rather than feeling we must.

Fulham, Brighton, Palace, Burnley, West Ham, Wolves, Chelsea - with virtually no hope at all for Manu, Man City and Liverpool.

Four wins are possible, but probably unlikely at this stage, Brighton, Fulham and Palace are the must wins, and hope for a win against West Ham Wolves or Burnley !!!



don't disagree , I was just putting the figures up and making the point that if you listed games hardest to easiest the next 2 would prob be 5 and 6..
I believe there is a shock win out there for us tbh..

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:28 pm

It reality annoys me when someone who should no better when the use the term "the usual suspects" as if its a crime to disagre with their hero Warnock,a simple straight question for you to give me a simple straight answer,do we go to Wolves looking for a win or to park the bus hopinf for a draw,i await your answer with interst

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:28 pm

Not sure who the usual suspects are but 4 points would be a huge achievement, I think 3 points would be decent as well if i'm honest. Personally I wouldn't write us off getting something against Chelsea either although it will be tough. Southampton have two tough games themselves over the next two games

We have to focus on what we do but the results of other clubs have a huge bearing on what we need to do over the rest of the season. This is Cardiff City after all, I generally expect the unexpected. I just hope we stay in touching distance for the rest of the season :bluescarf:

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:37 pm

I would snap your hand off for 3 points from two games, that would leave us needing another two wins in my opinion and it will be tough but we are capable. Palace home and Burnley, Brighton and Fulham away will decide where we end up.

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:56 pm

Bluebina wrote:
dogfound wrote:34 points was enough last year which means any 3 wins to achieve that tally.
37 points historically is enough 80% of the time ,which means any 4 wins and would be pretty unlucky to get 37 and go down..

these 2 games are not in the most winable 4 ...



Agreed they are winnable but I go into them with hope that we can try and get something rather than feeling we must.

Fulham, Brighton, Palace, Burnley, West Ham, Wolves, Chelsea - with virtually no hope at all for Manu, Man City and Liverpool.

Four wins are possible, but probably unlikely at this stage, Brighton, Fulham and Palace are the must wins, and hope for a win against West Ham Wolves or Burnley !!!


Absolutely agree with that. These two are winnable but not in the must win category. Get something out of these and it takes a little pressure off the Brighton, Fulham, Palace and Burnley games. 3 points out of the next 6 would be above expectations and anything more would really make it “Game On” !!

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:47 pm

angelis1949 wrote:It reality annoys me when someone who should no better when the use the term "the usual suspects" as if its a crime to disagre with their hero Warnock,a simple straight question for you to give me a simple straight answer,do we go to Wolves looking for a win or to park the bus hopinf for a draw,i await your answer with interst



what has agreeing with Warnock have to do with this thread..
what did he say...?

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:56 pm

We will beat West ham ,Fulham ,Brighton,palace and stay up

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:44 pm

angelis1949 wrote:It reality annoys me when someone who should no better when the use the term "the usual suspects" as if its a crime to disagre with their hero Warnock,a simple straight question for you to give me a simple straight answer,do we go to Wolves looking for a win or to park the bus hopinf for a draw,i await your answer with interst

I see that forever blue has not answered my direct question with an direct answer or any kind of answer,he must be one of thos usual suspects that dont answer direct questions with direct answers

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:54 pm

My opinion is we need a minimum of 4 wins to have a CHANCE of staying up.

Southampton could quite possibly build some momentum after beating Fulham, plus they have 2 key players in Ings and Lemina to return.

Brighton have Huddersfield to play next, plus I expect their results to pick up after they get knocked out of the cup, which will probably be in the next round.

With Fulham and Huddersfield being far adrift at the moment, I think it's logical to expect a higher points total than usual might need to be required to avoid the drop.

Put it this way, I think Southampton and Brighton can both easily get another 3 wins from their last 10 games and they're realistically the only 2 teams I can see us catching. Sadly, I think if we don't get another 4 wins to put us on 37 points, we're down.

Sorry that's not great reading, but that's my realistic opinion. It's going to be a massively tough ask for us now. :(

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:04 pm

I'll answer your direct question Angelis. I think we should go for it at Wolves and have a go because you never know we may get a few shots on target.
I think we've been showing teams far too much respect in this division and been too defensive (which hasn't been that successful of late). We need to give ourselves a fighting chance and get our front men putting a lot more pressure on opposing defenders.
At the minute we let the opposition have the luxury of playing out from the back in a relaxed manner- it was like a training session for Everton. Lets front up and have a go- i would rather go down fighting than with a defensive mindset and a whimper.

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:13 pm

I actually agreed with you Annis regarding getting 4 points in the last 2 games we were really good against Bournemouth and Southampton away where I didn't see any points then against Watford I thought at home a draw and then Everton who are not very good a win however after them 2 games I am now cant see us getting any points maybe away to Fulham.

We have done well with the money we spent and the squad we have but I am now of the feeling we need to see a fight as we didn't in the last 2 games at all I don't mind going down but not like the last 2 games please that is what happened last time we had no fight .

Relegation is something being a supporter we have to get used to over the years many years ago but recently we haven't as we were a good championship team just go down fighting is all I ask

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:29 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Not sure who the usual suspects are but 4 points would be a huge achievement, I think 3 points would be decent as well if i'm honest. Personally I wouldn't write us off getting something against Chelsea either although it will be tough. Southampton have two tough games themselves over the next two games

We have to focus on what we do but the results of other clubs have a huge bearing on what we need to do over the rest of the season. This is Cardiff City after all, I generally expect the unexpected. I just hope we stay in touching distance for the rest of the season :bluescarf:


He’s taking about me because I said we had no right to say we should be getting 4pts from two games against top 10 sides, I didn’t like that assumption that we should be getting this and that this league is rock solid and whilst we played awful playing well again the last two we’d have struggled to get 1 win for the both

Next two very similar mould but we beat wolves last year away when we said we couldn’t so who knows

Personally I reckon we may only take 1pt front he next two but of course I’d love 4pts

Annis just thinks we should get 4pts from every two games and as I said we’ve got no right to expect that sort of return against established premier league sides with no disrespect to our team the quality we all know just isn’t there compared to teams in the top 10

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:26 am

As Warnock says,”We need to worry about what we are doing on the field, not what other teams are doing” !
Get it right and it will fall into place.

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:30 am

Do t forget we’ve beaten one top side this season, “Wolves”

Re: The usual suspects will say, why do Cardiff have to get

Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:34 am

NEIL WARNOCK:


'Capable of getting points when we're not supposed to'

On picking up pointsL

“I think we’re quite capable of getting points in the games we’re not supposed to - if we’re up to scratch.

“The next two games are very important, I realise that.”