time to change goal keeper?

Time to give Etheridge a break.

In the last two games i dont think he made a save.

I know its controversial BUT lets give everything a go and change thinks around. Warnock keeps saying he wants players to be given a chance to prove themselves than why not the goalkeeper?

Any team staying in this league needs the goalie to keep them in the game with some great saves we have not had this in the last two games. I think Etheridge has let in a few that other keepers might have saved. The first Watford goal for example. He didn't anticipate at all where the ball was going.

Lets just try and see what some one else can do..what harm can it do? would Smithies have conceded 8 in the last two? possibly he could have saved some...desperate times call for desperate measures.

And put Smithies in goal? Surely things are bad enough without making them worse?

Opinions are great and of course you are entitled to yours but for me Etheridge has had no chance with any of the eight goals we have leaked in the last two games and has been one of the very few players who have shown that potentially they could play Premier League football beyond this season.

And put Smithies in goal? Surely things are bad enough without making them worse?

Opinions are great and of course you are entitled to yours but for me Etheridge has had no chance with any of the eight goals we have leaked in the last two games and has been one of the very few players who have shown that potentially they could play Premier League football beyond this season.

no team would have a keeper who cant start the offensive movement. Etheridge does not fit that bill at all the modern game has moved on..

i think the amount of goals he has conceded must give Smithies a chance. Look what happened when Heaton returned to goal for Burnley different side now. im just saying try different things and see what happens even if its just for a few games.

And put Smithies in goal? Surely things are bad enough without making them worse?

Opinions are great and of course you are entitled to yours but for me Etheridge has had no chance with any of the eight goals we have leaked in the last two games and has been one of the very few players who have shown that potentially they could play Premier League football beyond this season.

no team would have a keeper who cant start the offensive movement. Etheridge does not fit that bill at all the modern game has moved on..

i think the amount of goals he has conceded must give Smithies a chance. Look what happened when Heaton returned to goal for Burnley different side now. im just saying try different things and see what happens even if its just for a few games.

No goalkeeper in a Warnock team is needed to start any offensive movements.

The moment Etheridge has the ball all our players immediately turn their backs on him and start heading for the halfway line and that must be on the orders of the manager. Nobody comes short looking for the ball or giving Etheridge any option other than launching the ball as far as possible,

Time to give Etheridge a break.

In the last two games i dont think he made a save.

I know its controversial BUT lets give everything a go and change thinks around. Warnock keeps saying he wants players to be given a chance to prove themselves than why not the goalkeeper?

Any team staying in this league needs the goalie to keep them in the game with some great saves we have not had this in the last two games. I think Etheridge has let in a few that other keepers might have saved. The first Watford goal for example. He didn't anticipate at all where the ball was going.

Lets just try and see what some one else can do..what harm can it do? would Smithies have conceded 8 in the last two? possibly he could have saved some...desperate times call for desperate measures.

well its a change from the normal Warnock / Mozza gunk

I think the problem has been to many changes. Makes more got the sake of it won't help imo.

And put Smithies in goal? Surely things are bad enough without making them worse?

Opinions are great and of course you are entitled to yours but for me Etheridge has had no chance with any of the eight goals we have leaked in the last two games and has been one of the very few players who have shown that potentially they could play Premier League football beyond this season.

no team would have a keeper who cant start the offensive movement. Etheridge does not fit that bill at all the modern game has moved on..

i think the amount of goals he has conceded must give Smithies a chance. Look what happened when Heaton returned to goal for Burnley different side now. im just saying try different things and see what happens even if its just for a few games.

No goalkeeper in a Warnock team is needed to start any offensive movements.

The moment Etheridge has the ball all our players immediately turn their backs on him and start heading for the halfway line and that must be on the orders of the manager. Nobody comes short looking for the ball or giving Etheridge any option other than launching the ball as far as possible,

Didnt say we want him too!!!. i was responding to the post about him being good enough to play in the prem in another team.The keeper would have to play the ball out rather than lump it. By the way the Everton keeper was very good at playing a long ball to wide men even when called on to hit it long. Etheridge cannot find a man to the same standard.

Etheridge is a average championship keeper
Smithies is a average championship keeper
Murphy is a bog standard keeper

Doesn't matter who is in goals really with The defence and midfield in front of them lately.
You could put David DeGea in our goal and we would still conceed.

Wouldn't mind giving Smithies a go he couldn't do any worse than Etheridge

I dont know anything about Smithies. Sound like a South Park character.. But what i dont understand and annoys the hell out of me is Etheridge distribution. Why does he have to hit EVERY ball long? He could have ten options to play the ball, but he hits it long. Its like Ben Turner with gloves. Every game, every time. I can't remember a goalkeeper in any league with his record.

I dont know anything about Smithies. Sound like a South Park character.. But what i dont understand and annoys the hell out of me is Etheridge distribution. Why does he have to hit EVERY ball long? He could have ten options to play the ball, but he hits it long. Its like Ben Turner with gloves. Every game, every time. I can't remember a goalkeeper in any league with his record.

Wow Etheridge does as he is instructed to do by Warnock, and what's more,which of our backs would you feel comfortable to roll the ball out to,I know my answer we don't have ball playing fullbacks simple as that imo.slagging off one of the few real performers this year,why don't fans understand,players do (on most occasions ) what the manager says,end of really.

Some very clueless people on this board.

I dont know anything about Smithies. Sound like a South Park character.. But what i dont understand and annoys the hell out of me is Etheridge distribution. Why does he have to hit EVERY ball long? He could have ten options to play the ball, but he hits it long. Its like Ben Turner with gloves. Every game, every time. I can't remember a goalkeeper in any league with his record.

Wow Etheridge does as he is instructed to do by Warnock, and what's more,which of our backs would you feel comfortable to roll the ball out to,I know my answer we don't have ball playing fullbacks simple as that imo.slagging off one of the few real performers this year,why don't fans understand,players do (on most occasions ) what the manager says,end of really.

Not much wow with that post mate. If i know anything about fotball, goalkeeping is IT. He might be instructed to bypass the defence, for what ever reason. Half the time they have a lot of space carrying the ball. But it goes beyond that. He also neglect players available in midfield. And to an extent also attackers, because there is no direction from his kicks. When you don't have that, you adapt to closer passes. Just watch it closer mate. And the amount of times it comes right back at us? There is your WOW.. So if Warnock is instructing that, stop! If not. Full stop also. It is Sunday league stuff..

I dont know anything about Smithies. Sound like a South Park character.. But what i dont understand and annoys the hell out of me is Etheridge distribution. Why does he have to hit EVERY ball long? He could have ten options to play the ball, but he hits it long. Its like Ben Turner with gloves. Every game, every time. I can't remember a goalkeeper in any league with his record.

Wow Etheridge does as he is instructed to do by Warnock, and what's more,which of our backs would you feel comfortable to roll the ball out to,I know my answer we don't have ball playing fullbacks simple as that imo.slagging off one of the few real performers this year,why don't fans understand,players do (on most occasions ) what the manager says,end of really.

Not much wow with that post mate. If i know anything about fotball, goalkeeping is IT. He might be instructed to bypass the defence, for what ever reason. Half the time they have a lot of space carrying the ball. But it goes beyond that. He also neglect players available in midfield. And to an extent also attackers, because there is no direction from his kicks. When you don't have that, you adapt to closer passes. Just watch it closer mate. And the amount of times it comes right back at us? There is your WOW.. So if Warnock is instructing that, stop! If not. Full stop also. It is Sunday league stuff..

the accuracy of his kicking varies , the quality of back pass often don't help , but I don't think you can really think anything other than its under instruction..there are or hasn't been one instance of a player going short then going nuts as you will see even in Sunday lge..and to top that any free kick in the defensive 40 yrds or so in our half is treated likewise, foot through it and no one offering themselves short

Some very clueless people on this board.

Absolutely. As soon as we aren't winning people loose their bottle

Etheridge is one of the most exposed keepers in the premiership, has kept us in numerous games and now it’s his fault. I am amazed but not surprised. This board does need a scapegoat and to be fair we are starting to run out. We will be blaming Blackwell and jepson soon enough.

For me it wasn’t etheridge, woeful defending and a lack of a midfield yes but can’t blame the keeper.

Personally the last 2 performances were perhaps down to going on holidays half way through a vital part of the season, players can’t be arsed to turn up, selections and tactics it’s a collective not just a person. Warnock though will gear us up, Brighton and Fulham are must wins and we need one more to compliment it, I think palace maybe West Ham who are not great! We are not down yet.

No need to blame individuals just a blip, we will get more results. Whether they are enough; well we won’t know til May, but think of the fun, greying and loss of hair and disagreements on here you can have until then.

Etheridge is one of the most exposed keepers in the premiership, has kept us in numerous games and now it’s his fault. I am amazed but not surprised. This board does need a scapegoat and to be fair we are starting to run out. We will be blaming Blackwell and jepson soon enough.

For me it wasn’t etheridge, woeful defending and a lack of a midfield yes but can’t blame the keeper.

Personally the last 2 performances were perhaps down to going on holidays half way through a vital part of the season, players can’t be arsed to turn up, selections and tactics it’s a collective not just a person. Warnock though will gear us up, Brighton and Fulham are must wins and we need one more to compliment it, I think palace maybe West Ham who are not great! We are not down yet.

No need to blame individuals just a blip, we will get more results. Whether they are enough; well we won’t know til May, but think of the fun, greying and loss of hair and disagreements on here you can have until then.

Its insane isnt it, 2 games ago everyone was the best and now everyone is terrible

I dont know anything about Smithies. Sound like a South Park character.. But what i dont understand and annoys the hell out of me is Etheridge distribution. Why does he have to hit EVERY ball long? He could have ten options to play the ball, but he hits it long. Its like Ben Turner with gloves. Every game, every time. I can't remember a goalkeeper in any league with his record.

Wow Etheridge does as he is instructed to do by Warnock, and what's more,which of our backs would you feel comfortable to roll the ball out to,I know my answer we don't have ball playing fullbacks simple as that imo.slagging off one of the few real performers this year,why don't fans understand,players do (on most occasions ) what the manager says,end of really.

Not much wow with that post mate. If i know anything about fotball, goalkeeping is IT. He might be instructed to bypass the defence, for what ever reason. Half the time they have a lot of space carrying the ball. But it goes beyond that. He also neglect players available in midfield. And to an extent also attackers, because there is no direction from his kicks. When you don't have that, you adapt to closer passes. Just watch it closer mate. And the amount of times it comes right back at us? There is your WOW.. So if Warnock is instructing that, stop! If not. Full stop also. It is Sunday league stuff..

Did you see the game midfield were non existent,totally exposed by Sunday league defending,have no interest in your knowledge regards goalkeeping,you are not in goal for us,and if you were,you would maybe understand,you follow orders (unless you play for chelsea ) I didn't say I agree with these tactics,but it has been this way since the season started,why bitch about it now ffs
the accuracy of his kicking varies , the quality of back pass often don't help , but I don't think you can really think anything other than its under instruction..there are or hasn't been one instance of a player going short then going nuts as you will see even in Sunday lge..and to top that any free kick in the defensive 40 yrds or so in our half is treated likewise, foot through it and no one offering themselves short

Etheridge is one of the most exposed keepers in the premiership, has kept us in numerous games and now it’s his fault. I am amazed but not surprised. This board does need a scapegoat and to be fair we are starting to run out. We will be blaming Blackwell and jepson soon enough.

For me it wasn’t etheridge, woeful defending and a lack of a midfield yes but can’t blame the keeper.

Personally the last 2 performances were perhaps down to going on holidays half way through a vital part of the season, players can’t be arsed to turn up, selections and tactics it’s a collective not just a person. Warnock though will gear us up, Brighton and Fulham are must wins and we need one more to compliment it, I think palace maybe West Ham who are not great! We are not down yet.

No need to blame individuals just a blip, we will get more results. Whether they are enough; well we won’t know til May, but think of the fun, greying and loss of hair and disagreements on here you can have until then.

Its insane isnt it, 2 games ago everyone was the best and now everyone is terrible

Why dont you read what has been said?
No one has said he has done a bad job this season.
What has been said is that to concede 8 goals in the last two games and not making a save ,whether that is fair or not why not consider giving someone else a go for the next few games and see what happens.
None of the City players are beyond being criticized over the last two games that includes Etheridge. Warnock did not exclude him from having a go at the team.
He could be injured the next game and Smithies goes on to be outstanding in the team...who knows , we are desperate to improve, so try out players who have not been given a chance,that also includes Cunningham and Harris for me. Bennet and Junior were shocking.

Etheridge is one of the most exposed keepers in the premiership, has kept us in numerous games and now it’s his fault. I am amazed but not surprised. This board does need a scapegoat and to be fair we are starting to run out. We will be blaming Blackwell and jepson soon enough.

For me it wasn’t etheridge, woeful defending and a lack of a midfield yes but can’t blame the keeper.

Personally the last 2 performances were perhaps down to going on holidays half way through a vital part of the season, players can’t be arsed to turn up, selections and tactics it’s a collective not just a person. Warnock though will gear us up, Brighton and Fulham are must wins and we need one more to compliment it, I think palace maybe West Ham who are not great! We are not down yet.

No need to blame individuals just a blip, we will get more results. Whether they are enough; well we won’t know til May, but think of the fun, greying and loss of hair and disagreements on here you can have until then.

Its insane isnt it, 2 games ago everyone was the best and now everyone is terrible

Why dont you read what has been said?
No one has said he has done a bad job this season.
What has been said is that to concede 8 goals in the last two games and not making a save ,whether that is fair or not why not consider giving someone else a go for the next few games and see what happens.
None of the City players are beyond being criticized over the last two games that includes Etheridge. Warnock did not exclude him from having a go at the team.
He could be injured the next game and Smithies goes on to be outstanding in the team...who knows , we are desperate to improve, so try out players who have not been given a chance,that also includes Cunningham and Harris for me. Bennet and Junior were shocking.

Ok, apologies, but if you are conceding goals you can’t do anything about because you are so exposed it is ridiculous then there is nothing you can do. So the answer is still no, because etheridge has still kept us in more games and helped us to earn more points than he has cost us.

We needlessly brought back Morrison and needlessly changed manga back to right back for the last 2 games and the nett result was not good. Etheridge in all fairness does receive his criticism with his kicking and when he makes mistakes. But, the last two games is a collective issue. As I said you can’t really not blame anyone but I wouldn’t change the keeper because of it, just because generally he’s been solid. I wouldn’t change that, defenders know him etc.

I am sure something was said in a press conference after Watford that 1 or 2 players were closer to the bog than the pitch? I could be wrong of course, but with so many changes I am wondering if not all was well in the camp. Maybe someone could confirm.

Some very clueless people on this board.

Indeed!

this has to be a joke, Etheridge is our player of this season

Time to give Etheridge a break.

In the last two games i dont think he made a save.

I know its controversial BUT lets give everything a go and change thinks around. Warnock keeps saying he wants players to be given a chance to prove themselves than why not the goalkeeper?

Any team staying in this league needs the goalie to keep them in the game with some great saves we have not had this in the last two games. I think Etheridge has let in a few that other keepers might have saved. The first Watford goal for example. He didn't anticipate at all where the ball was going.

Lets just try and see what some one else can do..what harm can it do? would Smithies have conceded 8 in the last two? possibly he could have saved some...desperate times call for desperate measures.

And how many games have we won when Smithies played? I'd rather bring back Peter Bois and all you younger fans google his one appearance for us

Time to give Etheridge a break.

In the last two games i dont think he made a save.

I know its controversial BUT lets give everything a go and change thinks around. Warnock keeps saying he wants players to be given a chance to prove themselves than why not the goalkeeper?

Any team staying in this league needs the goalie to keep them in the game with some great saves we have not had this in the last two games. I think Etheridge has let in a few that other keepers might have saved. The first Watford goal for example. He didn't anticipate at all where the ball was going.

Lets just try and see what some one else can do..what harm can it do? would Smithies have conceded 8 in the last two? possibly he could have saved some...desperate times call for desperate measures.

And how many games have we won when Smithies played? I'd rather bring back Peter Bois and all you younger fans google his one appearance for us

Zois not Bois. but I was there that game

and he was literally gone the next day
the good old days...

Time to give Etheridge a break.

In the last two games i dont think he made a save.

I know its controversial BUT lets give everything a go and change thinks around. Warnock keeps saying he wants players to be given a chance to prove themselves than why not the goalkeeper?

Any team staying in this league needs the goalie to keep them in the game with some great saves we have not had this in the last two games. I think Etheridge has let in a few that other keepers might have saved. The first Watford goal for example. He didn't anticipate at all where the ball was going.

Lets just try and see what some one else can do..what harm can it do? would Smithies have conceded 8 in the last two? possibly he could have saved some...desperate times call for desperate measures.

And how many games have we won when Smithies played? I'd rather bring back Peter Bois and all you younger fans google his one appearance for us

He hasnt had a chance but someone paid £4m for him. Least not forget how Etheridge was doubted when he first started now he has become the best keeper we have ever had in some peoples opinion.
makes me laugh how city fans judge players when they hardly get picked or play.

What a stupid post. He has stopped loads of potential goals.

I dont know anything about Smithies. Sound like a South Park character.. But what i dont understand and annoys the hell out of me is Etheridge distribution. Why does he have to hit EVERY ball long? He could have ten options to play the ball, but he hits it long. Its like Ben Turner with gloves. Every game, every time. I can't remember a goalkeeper in any league with his record.

Wow Etheridge does as he is instructed to do by Warnock, and what's more,which of our backs would you feel comfortable to roll the ball out to,I know my answer we don't have ball playing fullbacks simple as that imo.slagging off one of the few real performers this year,why don't fans understand,players do (on most occasions ) what the manager says,end of really.

Not much wow with that post mate. If i know anything about fotball, goalkeeping is IT. He might be instructed to bypass the defence, for what ever reason. Half the time they have a lot of space carrying the ball. But it goes beyond that. He also neglect players available in midfield. And to an extent also attackers, because there is no direction from his kicks. When you don't have that, you adapt to closer passes. Just watch it closer mate. And the amount of times it comes right back at us? There is your WOW.. So if Warnock is instructing that, stop! If not. Full stop also. It is Sunday league stuff..

Well, it's hard to pick holes with that post, so I won't!

Etheridge's kicking is often woeful and sometimes very worrying. It can be proper heart-in-mouth stuff!

Not knocking him as a 'keeper between the sticks; he is as good as we've had for many a year (and City were always renowned for their class 'keepers)

If Neil Warnock is telling him to simply 'pump it up there' at every opportunity, then it will explain our low possession rates, as other teams collect the ball far too easily and shove it straight back down our throats...!

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the op has lost the plot. What happened the last time Smithies played v Gillingham? He dived out the way of the ball for their winner. Etheridge has done nothing wrong.

Etheridge is a average championship keeper
Smithies is a average championship keeper
Murphy is a bog standard keeper

Doesn't matter who is in goals really with The defence and midfield in front of them lately.
You could put David DeGea in our goal and we would still conceed.

Wouldn't mind giving Smithies a go he couldn't do any worse than Etheridge

etheridge's 19 clean sheets, and joint lowest goals conceded last season would suggest that he is better than an 'average championship keeper'.

he was average when he joined us, but i can't deny he has significantly improved since he has been here.

changing him would be a change for change's sake.

NO .